Washington (CNN) – They are losing the battle over higher taxes on the wealthy, so now Republicans are threatening a political war next year when it comes time to raise the nation's debt ceiling.
With cracks appearing in their anti-tax facade and polls showing most Americans favoring President Barack Obama's stance in fiscal cliff negotiations, GOP legislators are starting to advocate a tactical retreat to fight another day.
And her is GOP "negotiation" in action. Give us what we want or else. How did the "party of Lincoln" fall so far the become the party of the rich (only)?
2014 we vote these GOP jokers OUT! Using the debt ceiling as leverage? The debt ceiling is for money ALREADY SPENT, IT'S NOT FOR SPENDING MORE MONEY! Would you use your credit card and then refuse to pay the bill when it comes due? That's what republicans are threatening to do. The US would no longer be creditworthy if the GOP takes the debt ceiling hostage.
This is insane the republicans are angry at the president because he won the election it would appear now the GOP is ready to destroy the president now more than ever. They fail to grasp the majority of America rejected not only their candidate but their out dated ideogy as well.
Socialize EVERYTHING. Tax the rich at 100% and redistribute to those not working or believe that non-union jobs are below them...that way we are all equal...JUST LIKE THE CONSTITUTION says! If everyone is the same, then everyone should have the same money and the same lifestyle...DUH! GOP is nothing more than a party for the rich. This is the land of opportunity, but who needs opportunity when we can take from Peter to pay Paul! Amiright? Screw working hard and hitting the books, lets just tax at gun point until we are all equally miserable or happy!
And the GOP wonders why they get less that 47% in a presidential election and congress has an approval rating lower than Castro and Chavez.
Look out America. The GOPers are fixing to give us one their really, really big sandbox-name calling-foot stomping-temper tantrums. Again.
Awesome. That's right, GOPers/Teatrolls, the barrel points at your face and your toe goes on the trigger. Enjoy!
Republicans finally see the future and it is not them. What a shock. For years they have thought, if the polls are against them, then the polls are biased by the liberal press. So, they take their own polls, run by folks like Fox News, get the results Republicans want and say their polls are correct. It is no wonder Republicans are surprised by the whuppin' they got.
So the smarter Republicans are breaking Grover's pledge and cracking the stupid barrier around the GOP. Next thing you know some of them will figure out that unless you pay down your debt with more income, the debt keeps getting bigger. Geniuses, just pure freaking geniuses.
The dumber Republicans are the ones shouting that they will oppose everything to right our sinking nation. News for you boys. SEE THE LAST ELECTION. That was a hint. If you want to lose even more seats, keep up the good fight.
This is why the GOP needs to be faced with the choice- work for America- or go to jail as anti-American terrorists.
2014 cannot come soon enough – the foxbots will end up having some type of seizure – or something . hate to be a bearer of bad tidings, but I know some repubs that will end up voting some of their Own out.
Even if Republicans were to agree to a tax rate increase on the rich there would still not be a deal. Obama is only promising to cut spending and reform entitlements sometime later in 2013. Republicans are not going to trust Obama on just a promise. Democrats made the same promise to President Regan and the first President Bush, and then did not follow through on their promise to cut spending.
So here is what the Republicans should propose. Agree to the tax rate increase for the rich in exchange for a set amount of spending cuts and entitlement reforms to be worked out by the end of 2013. The Bush tax cuts for the middle class would be made permanent. The catch to keep Obama honest on the spending cuts and entitlement reform is that the tax rate increase on the rich would go back to the current rates permanently in 2104 if the spending cuts and entitlement reforms are not passed by the end of 2013. No spending cuts and entitlement reform then the tax rates for the rich revert back to the Bush tax rates for them. That would put us right back to where we are now. Also Obama would continue to own trillion dollar deficits as far as the CBO can see.
We should have NO changes in the fiscal cliff fiasco without the debt ceiling being raised also, as ONE deal. This is about money already spent, tax cuts from 10 years ago, and a recovery from the recession that resulted from republican tax cuts and spending.
As to repubs threatening war, they have been engaged in war on the Democrats and America for years.
How about taking SSI and Medicare away from registered Republicans?
"Angry with Obama, GOP threatens political war next year"
The GOtP have invoked the filibuster hundreds of times, more than ever, over the last 4 years
The Republicans have obstructed even the most basic functions of government
the GOtP have blocked countless presidential nominees to the most mundane posts
They have fought against any and every step of recovery...recovery from a mess they themselves created
They have just lost an election. They are about to lose this argument
AND NOW THEY WANT TO DECLARE POLITICAL WAR.
The Republicans are becoming experts at creating moments of crisis for America
The last time the GOtP did this our credit rating was lowered. WE ARE NOT GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
Maybe they can get America's S&P rating lowered AGAIN! With GOP obstructionism we'll end up rated on-level with Somalia.
America can't tolerate a political party determined to support only the wealthy if that party has the ability to hold the rest of the nation hostage. I can't wait for 2014 for the opportunity to help America flush this abomination of what was once the Republican Party.
1993 Republicans were wrong but still they are paying same game
"'The tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment, and actually increase the deficit.' That’s Newt Gingrich in 1993 on the Clinton tax increase."
Tax hike on rich in 1993 gave the following result
“In the late 1990s, the U.S. economy achieved performance levels unseen for a generation. Strong output and productivity growth accompanied low inflation and healthy employment growth.
The GOP are traitors, they take an oath to uphold the Constitution and work for the people and that's not happening, it's time we as Americans hold them in contempt of their duties and sue the pants off of them. We can do this, UNITE.
Guess the gop wants to lose control in mid term election. If so this the way to do it
The American people never know what this is really about. Special interest groups seeking to protect their ENTITLEMENT to the public treasury. Do we need to reform Medicare, Social Security, taxes - yes? But why do we not hear very much about cutting military equipment spending? Is spending more than the next 12-15 countries combined military the right formula - how could it be?
I have a theory based on people I know who vote but don't follow politics much except around the elections (most of the country really). In their minds there is not a clear divide between "the Cliff" and "the Debt Ceiling". That means that if the Debt Ceiling becomes a crisis in early 2013 the reaction will be... "They are doing this again and so soon!" It will really hurt the Republicans. But hey, it is only a theory.
There cannot be an ultimatum on what will be law next year. Next year may be different from this year. We may get dragged into a war with Iran for Israel; we may have more hurricanes, earthquakes, and wind-storms than ever before. No one should legislate any financials into perpetuity. That is stupid. We can legislate and hope for the best - if the best happens, change it again - if the worst happens, we'll certainly be forced to change it.
I suppose Graham and company want to create a new 'fiscal cliff' when the debt ceiling hits in a month or so. It worked so well the last time.
Congress couldn't work out a solution in a year and a half. Their hand-selected 'mini-Congress' couldn't arrive at a solution. So now, republicans are already threatening another financial crises, soon, because they are loosing support in the entire Country. It worked so well the last time.
And this behavior is really going to inspire confidence on Wall Street.
Here's a solution : pass a law that – once a person turns 18 – then they automatically get medicare / AND Social Security – ( This would be Mandatory) THEN – Once that person gets to be 55 yrs. old – THEY ARE FORCED TO WORK TIL THEY DIE, no IFF's or Butts about it. and if they need hospital care while they are working, then it would come out of their paycheck(s) (for life, if it has to)
i'd imagine this title was been cut and pasted a thousand times since Jan 2009.
Threatening revenge that would potentially shut down the government, destroy millions of lives and yet again downgrade the US's credit rating and thereby really hamper economic recovery...just like it did last time? We've seen this movie before. Go ahead, GOPers/Teatrolls, throw your petulant, spiteful little hissy fits. You're eating that mofo spinach whether you like it or not though.