Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'
December 18th, 2012
10:55 AM ET
2 years ago

Perry says concealed handgun license should extend 'anywhere'

(CNN) – Amid calls for tighter restrictions on guns following last week's deadly rampage in Connecticut, Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry said at a tea party event Monday that anyone with a concealed handgun license in the Lone Star State should be able to take guns on public property – including schools.

"In the state of Texas, with our concealed handgun license, if you have been duly backgrounded and trained and you are a concealed handgun license carrying individual, you should be able to carry your handgun anywhere in this state," said Perry, who later added a person has the right to prohibit guns on their private property.

Provided they have the proper training and license, teachers should have "access to weapons in their school," Perry said. Individual school districts should be able to determine whether or not to allow firearms on their campuses, he said.

At least one school jurisdiction in Texas already allows teachers to carry guns – the Harrold school district, located 175 miles northwest of Dallas, began allowing its employees to carry guns in 2008, as long as they obtained the necessary license.

On Friday, the district's superintendent David Thweatt said the set-up meant his schools were doing everything they could to protect students.

"Is that 100%? No," Thweatt told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "Nothing is 100%. But what we do know is that we've done all we can to protect our children."

The shooting Friday in Connecticut has sparked promises from several federal lawmakers to reintroduce tighter gun control measures, ranging from a reinstatement of a federal ban on assault weapons to banning the sale of high-capacity magazines.

Perry stipulated that lawmakers have a responsibility to "do everything we can to make sure that those types of evils are restricted the best that it can be," but that citizens should be wary of reactive decisions from the federal government.

"One of the things I hope we don't see from our federal government is this knee-jerk reaction from Washington, D.C., when there is an event that occurs that they come in and think they know the answer," Perry said.

On the day of the massacre, Perry requested his state's education commissioner review emergency operation plans in schools, saying it was "essential that we ensure all Texas schools are equipped and ready to carry out a strategic plan to secure the safety of students and staff in the event of a threat such as the one that occurred today."

At the event Monday, Perry also dropped a hint about his political future, including a potential sequel to his failed bid for the 2012 presidential nomination.

The Texas governor said his 2012 run, which ended January, was an "extraordinary experience," and that despite his loss, "I would do it again."


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  1. gunsupporter

    Don't be naive. Gun control will only make it more difficult for lawful U.S.A. citizens from having the ability to defend themselves. Criminals and those bent on harming others will find a way to obtain a gun. If the principal would have been armed and trained she could have hurled a bullet at this disturbed individual instead of her body and this tragedy could have been prevented. Her act, while heroic was not effective. I want someone at the school protecting my child’s life using any means necessary. Nothing but lethal force was going to stop this person.

    December 18, 2012 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  2. mauricer

    Hey c'mon Rick. Let's issue a firearm to every infant the moment they're born. It will make hospital nurseries much safer places.

    December 18, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  3. mike

    Then if the teacher uses the weapon on school property, they need to go through the same examination as does a policeman when they fire their weapon. There are no free rides to just shoot your gun. And the guy who went to Sandy Hook was in body armor, no pistol would have stopped him. I own a 30-30 winchester, and there is no need for an AK47 or AR-15 to hunt deer. We don't allow bazookas on the street. People can't purchase a tank or an apache helicopter. There is no need whatsoever for an automatic gun with a high volume magazine. Leave that to the Marines.

    December 18, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  4. js

    Further evidence that the 2012 Republican primary election candidates are the worst collection of m0r0ns to have run for public office in history.

    December 18, 2012 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  5. somewhere inbetween

    Does it have to be this drastic....how about arming teachers/admin schools with tazers and mace...at least they could disable the crazed fanatic.....if someone is going to use a lethal weapon in a school at least the teachers should have something more than an eraser to defend themselves with....

    December 18, 2012 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  6. John

    While I am against gun control, more guns do not help anything.

    If you want to prevent more gun violence, than you must strike at the heart of the beast. You must strike at what causes these people to act out. The gun is a chunk if metal nothing more and yes making bombs and chemical weapons is something any 6th grader can do with their older syblings high school chemistry book.

    December 18, 2012 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm |
  7. Ed1

    A few days ago in China, a man stabbed 21 children and they have a ban on all guns. Did you hear that, stupid liberals?

    Nothing in the liberal press about that.

    All knives should be banned in the world.

    December 18, 2012 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm |
  8. wellywellup

    This of course assumes that there are no insane teachers in this country. More guns are not the answer.

    December 18, 2012 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm |
  9. Jake

    This is why the Tea Party and the Republicans are on they're way out! Small minded, dumb, heartless thinking. It's easy to think in the abstract (even if you can't spell the word or understand its meaning) until it's your child or grandchild has been killed by a gun. Only Texas could vote for both GWB and Rick Perry to be Governors. Secede already... Please! We'll pitch in and help you build a wall around the entire state.

    December 18, 2012 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  10. Dale Fowler

    That is the kind of president I want in the White House!

    December 18, 2012 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm |
  11. Morgan

    Classrooms are traps. Think about it. There is one door in, just one. If a madman manages to get in the school the kids in the classrooms are trapped like fish in a bowl. Why is there no emergency exit other then trying to stuff kids out the windows?

    If teachers were armed it would hopefully be a deterrent to people like the psychos who shoot up schools. Would be terrorists wouldn't know which teacher had guns hidden or if there were any. Just posting a sign on the door that there were trained, licensed gun carriers in the building might discourage the next event. Heck there might not be any guns in the school but it would leave people guessing.

    Alarms on all the glass and doors could serve as early warning system. Supposedly the shooter at Connecticut shot up a door to gain access. If that had set off an alarm, the teachers would have had time to act. Maybe tear gas at the entryway, or a tear gas canister they could toss in the hallway? Believe me tear gas is nasty stuff. It burns the eyes and chokes the victim so bad they can't stand it. I had to undergo tear gas training in the army. It is nasty.

    December 18, 2012 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm |
  12. cathrat

    I thought I was a centrist, but the left is pushing me right.

    December 18, 2012 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm |
  13. J.V.Hodgson

    I can only find one thing worth saying about arming teeachers as the solution
    it a little ditty I heard years ago.
    One fine day, in the middle of the night
    Two dead men got up to fight
    Back to back they faced each other,
    drew thier swords and shot each other.
    How about Aurora there we all are with all of us old enough sitting IN THE DARK WATCHING bat man, with our licensed, concealed, trained to use weapon ( could not be a bush type rifle asault weapon??!!) and this crazy starts shooting people. a 5/6 quick draw Mcgraws 3 near black armor clad shooter and 3 opposite so now we have a pitched battle shooting a gun flashes and lets say our six quickies dont get shot but fire off in total potentially 60 rounds you think less people get killed or hurt, and that bush armed crazty cant shoot at you quicker than you shoot at him.
    Unfortunately also these crazies clearly are not stupid either if they the teachers are armed who is going to be the first target. Remember this guy mowed down two adults as soon as they came out to thier offices. a qualified Guard will only make them use a silencer to kill that guy first and not alert everyone else.
    The whole point of banning assault type and semi automatic weapons whicjh can accomodate high number round ammunition ( cartridges by whatever name you call them) is that you stop a guy getting off 60 or 100 rounds very quickly.
    I'd much prefer teachers were given an alarm button to press direct into the nearest local police department
    I like the response one anyi gun law person gave me he quoyed a mugger with a crow bar. he pulled his concealed weapon and QED mugger ran off. proved his case?? no next time said mugger does just use a crow bar he comes with gun, now draw your concealed trained to use weapon and you get shot. Violence begets violence.
    The truth is that where gun an ammunition control and laws are very strict and strong gun crime and gun deaths especially reduce in numbers geometrically especially when gun accompanied crime automatically gets you double sentence for the crime perpetrated or attempted to be perpetrated.
    Go gun guys go! Take us all back to the wild west era and the shoot outs on main street. Only difference is I have a weapon and magazine that can kill over 50 people and fire faster than you can draw you concealed weapon. i cant just fire at my opponent because y'all may wanna kill me as well with your puny six gun.
    in the last couple of days I have heard some completely arrant rubbish. the worst of which is
    more guns will lead to less gun killings and gun crime you are kidding me if I'm a criminal I aint goin nowhere to commit even the most minor crime without a gun and by god some even whispers "hey" I shoot first and ask questions later.
    Regards,
    Hodgson.

    December 18, 2012 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm |
  14. meb

    Somehow the liberals think you can legislate crime and or insanity based crime. That said, teachers are first on scene so arm them. We trust them to teach and mold our children and also to protect them while in their care. Arm them. When has being a helpless victim become morally superior to self-defense? Also think about how many crimes the police have been on scene to actually stop. They're normally doing the clean up after the fact. No offense to the men in blue but we aren't living in Steven Spielberg's "Minority Report "

    December 18, 2012 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm |
  15. Tony Torres

    Like Bugs Bunny use to say, "What a Maroon!" It's idiotic thinking like that, that creates the environment we are now in. At least ban assault rifles & large clips.

    December 18, 2012 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm |
  16. Name

    He's got my vote

    December 18, 2012 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm |
  17. ERS

    Governor Perry has some screws loose. Can not believe this politician. I wonder how he would feel if any of his loved ones had been murdered at Sandy Hook? I wonder if having a family member experience the same horrific tragedy the children, teachers, and other staff members experienced at Sandy Hook would change Perry's Wild West attitude towards to guns and his love for the NRA. Come to think of it, even in the Wild west Days there were cowboy towns that restricted guns. As a matter of fact there probably were more gun restrictions in these towns than we have today. The Perrys and the NRA have done a good job at misleading the public when it comes to guns

    December 18, 2012 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm |
  18. paul teague

    The answer is not more guns. The fact is that more guns kill more people.
    1) Fact: No other industrial country has as liberal gun laws as we do.
    2) Fact: We have the 15X more gun violence per capita than any other industrialized country.
    3) Fact: We do not have 15X more crazy people, we do not have 15X more violent TV shows, we do not have 15X more drugs, we do not have 15X more poor people. The biggest difference is we have a LOT more guns.
    3) Fact: Great Britain has totally banned guns. They have had 60 people die of gun violence in the past year. The US – 31,000!
    4) Fact: Assault weapons can be easily turned into machine guns with a $10 part – which is most likely what Lanza did.
    5) Fact: Assault weapons are outlawed even in the most gun crazy countries like Pakistan
    Happy Holidays!

    December 18, 2012 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm |
  19. Name ele.sch.prin

    What message would a teacher or principal carrying a gun send to children? Possibly, that the way to resolve conflict is to blow someone away or that the way to take care of yourself is to pack heat. Let's just get rid of problem solving and conflict management classes and teach children how to shoot a gun.

    December 18, 2012 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm |
  20. AK_steve

    We are officially a nation of fear.

    December 18, 2012 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm |
  21. ashley24

    I clicked on this link knowing it had to be TX and Rick Perry again. I am (and always will be) ashamed of this state. I apologize to the other 48 states (I'm not counting FL, as they are just as bad as TX) behalf of all Texans who make this nation look pathetic.

    December 18, 2012 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm |
  22. DMWT

    Don't Mess With Texas!!!

    December 18, 2012 11:40 pm at 11:40 pm |
  23. nycsalmon

    Mr. Perry should spend a month doing autopsies in the local medical examiner's dept. Then he would see how many gunshot fatalities are the result of stranger violence (not many) and how many are the result of shots fired by family or friends of the deceased, whether accidentally or not. The latter would be the majority. Perhaps if he saw it, smelled it and had to work with these bodies, he'd `get it' and remember. I know that was one of the big lessons of my medical training.

    December 18, 2012 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  24. Patriot

    Ever see the movie "Unforgiven" were Clint Eastwood walks into a bar wanting to kill someone? When the shooting starts bullets fly everywhere. Many of the people in the scene are so shocked that they just spray and pray their rounds.
    Now, could you expect the average citizen that is armed to do any better if this happened to them in a moments notice, not knowing what is going on?
    Some, like Rick Perry, are saying we need more guns. Is this really a solution? Our problem with gun violence is so complex and multifaceted. If anyone says they have a simple solution to end this carnage, they are dead wrong and lack any comprehension of this horrible problem. Furthermore, outlawing assault weapons now is like outlawing rain after it floods. A symbolic measure, yet ineffective. We will never completely end gun violence, but we must try to curtail it. Reducing gun violence must be a sustained "Work in Progress". A comprehensive, reasonable effort
    Take a look at the automotive industry. In the 1950's automobile safety was largely unheard of and many died needlessly. Auto manufactures came out with the seatbelt. Later came the improved designed of the 3 point seatbelt. Driver airbags became standard equipment on autos. Antilock brakes were installed. Passenger and side airbags became a feature. Lately, tire pressure monitoring systems have added to automobile safety. Did anyone object? Addition efforts like Child safety seats and wearing seatbelts were mandated by law. Mothers who lost children organized and petitioned for harsher penalties against drunk drivers. Over time, these efforts paid off and the work continues today to make autos safer.
    Why it is efforts like these can’t be done with guns? Must we accept Newtown, Columbine and other heartbroken localities as a price of freedom?
    We must have a similar effort to gun safety as with autos since no simple solution is available. Differences about 2nd Amendments rights must be overcome. Research must be done to find the causes of gun violence which include mental illness. And of course, new effective laws must be passed. We, as a nation are armed to the teeth, yet we are unsafe. We have laws now that are ineffective and make us no safer! More guns and more ineffective laws will only give a false since of security, nothing more.
    Think about this: the next big shooting is likely being planned by someone now. Where’s is our effective plan to stop him? We are all in this together.

    December 18, 2012 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  25. guest

    What an irresponsible buffoon. And this guy is charged with running the state of Texas. Perry apparently has no idea how big an average suburban or city high school is. There are 3000+ students in many schools. Just how accurate do you think a person packing heat will be able to aim, assuming he/she is in the proximity of the shooter and can, with certainty distinguish same, with over a thousand screaming, running, pushing students in the area?

    December 18, 2012 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm |
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