December 20th, 2012
12:13 PM ET
2 years ago

The list: Despite emotions, little happens legislatively after mass shootings

(CNN) - Days after the shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, demands from the public and lawmakers for tougher gun control legislation were met by President Barack Obama's call for a re-examination of the country's gun laws.

Obama announced Wednesday that Vice President Joe Biden will lead an administration effort to develop recommendations no later than January for preventing another mass shooting.

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  1. Name lynn

    no one knew this shooting was going to happen we are praying for all the families involved and the people all over the world sadden and heart broken about the children and adults was kill

    December 20, 2012 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  2. Data Driven

    Well, the NRA has a lot of money with which to buy off politicians.

    In other news, Politicians are Corrupt. Full story, click here.

    December 20, 2012 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  3. plain&simple

    Here's how this works...remember,never forget,make it important and vote. Hold our leaders responsible!! In every election in every part and party all across our country. Don't let those innocents die in vain!! Keeping there lives alive in our hearts and actions is all that we have in our power to do..... Keep at it until it gets done.

    December 20, 2012 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  4. tammyk tammy

    In addition to gun control, there has been much discussion re our failing mental health system. If my memory is correct Al Gore's wife Tipper was a strong advocate for mental health. I can't help but wonder what a different place this country would be if the Supreme court had allowed the Florida recount in the 2000 election instead of picking our President for us. Our economy might not have collapse, we would be ahead on green energy, the assault weapons ban would have been renewed, and Tipper might have strengthened our MH system. Instead the Republican legacy of Bush and company continues to affect this country on all levels. Who you chose to vote for does have repercussions that echo for years. When you chose to sit at home and not vote, that has repercussions also. Think, examine history, research issues, ignore lies and soundbites, become involved, and vote in ALL elections.

    December 20, 2012 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  5. myviewis

    Why not just make it mandatory for each school to have 1 or 2 full-time police officers on the premises, depending on the size of the school. A police officer can handle a criminal more than a bunch of laws in the books.

    December 20, 2012 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  6. Sniffit

    "CNN Poll: Are GOP policies too extreme?"

    And of course, lest they turn the rock over fully and find out what's really under there, CNN failed to ask the obvious follow up question: Is the GOP's/Teatrolls' BEHAVIOR too extreme?

    December 20, 2012 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  7. tammyk tammy

    If you care about the victims of gun violence and the lack of care for the mentally ill in this country then show it at the polls. Cancel your NRA membership if you disagree with their support of assault weapons. Support the ACA which will allow millions to obtain healthcare, including mental health care. Politicians are a reflection of our society in that they need the support and the vote of the people in order to put these protections into place. People complain that the politicians are failing us and have bought by special interests like the NRA, but we are failing them when we don't support the good ones who want to make changes and yet can't get votes without playing the money game that politics has become. Time to get involved and vote and stop being shocked when bad policies lead to devastating consequences. You get what you vote for and if you stay home on election day, then you get what you couldn't be bothered to vote for.

    December 20, 2012 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  8. Mitchell

    We talk about changing our gun laws. But we never get them changed. Why? THE NRA.

    December 20, 2012 01:32 pm at 1:32 pm |
  9. Rudy NYC

    myviewis

    Why not just make it mandatory for each school to have 1 or 2 full-time police officers on the premises, depending on the size of the school. A police officer can handle a criminal more than a bunch of laws in the books.
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    Good grief. Don't you ever *think* about what it is that you repeat? That idea would never work under a conservative government. As Mitt Romney said, we have too many policeman and fire fighters. Republicans across the country have cut funding for education, police officers and fire fighters. Besides, you've been watching too many movies and video games. How do you plan to *pay* for it all? Cut school lunch budgets?

    Your argument is based upon the false assumption that the "guard" will always win the hootout in Corridor 102.

    December 20, 2012 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
  10. Wilson

    I hold close these words from George Washington written early in the first American Revolution: "We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times."

    December 20, 2012 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  11. Malory Archer

    myviewis

    Why not just make it mandatory for each school to have 1 or 2 full-time police officers on the premises, depending on the size of the school. A police officer can handle a criminal more than a bunch of laws in the books.

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    Not if they're on the other side of the campus when it happens. Not if they're ambushed like two cops in Tampa who were dropped by a bad guy last year as they were approaching his car, or the cop in St. Pete who was dropped a few days later by a teenager while responding to a call about a prowler. The two in Tampa didn't even have a chance to unholster their weapons. The one in St. Pete fired off a couple of rounds as he was falling to the ground, but probably didn't even realize it because he was killed instantly. None of those guys could have done a thing for kids in school, except provide ANOTHER weapon for the the bad guy to use against his victims.

    December 20, 2012 01:48 pm at 1:48 pm |
  12. Willie Floyd

    I agree Tammy. But we can't wait to vote to get these assault weapons off the streets. I'm going to call every congressman I can find #s for and the White House comment line EVERYDAY. I know VP Biden will do a good job but we need to let the NRA and Reps. know that we won't give up until it's done. I hope those who failed to vote in '10 learned a very valuable lesson and will get off their cans in '14.

    December 20, 2012 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  13. Facts don't Lie

    I just can not understand this...a man tried to blow up an airplane using a bomb in his shoe thus now we all have to take off our shoes before we can board a plane, 2 men tried to blow up a plane by using normal things like toothpaste and fluids so now we can not take such thinks past the TSA...BUT we have numerous men shoot and kill people from schools to movies to shopping malls yet nothing can be done about it.

    December 20, 2012 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  14. Malory Archer

    myviewis

    Why not just make it mandatory for each school to have 1 or 2 full-time police officers on the premises, depending on the size of the school. A police officer can handle a criminal more than a bunch of laws in the books.

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    Cities & counties have cut their staffs to the bone – including first responders in response to demands by taxpayers for lower taxes. Are you willing to pay more taxes in order to provide security to school kids? People who don't have kids don't even think they should have to pay taxes for schools so why would they feel they should have to pay even more taxes to keep cops at those schools they don't even want to fund?

    December 20, 2012 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  15. GI Joe

    He had on body armor - doubt a teacher could take him out.

    Republicans obviously want us to live in a police state/country.

    December 20, 2012 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
  16. Rudy NYC

    Gun advocates complain about all of the guns on the streets. When will pro-gun advocates figure out that there are profiteers out there benefiting from the relaxed gun laws. I can guarantee you that the anti-gun crowd are not responsible for there being more guns on the street than people in the US. Gun advocates push for sales to be untraceable. Gun advocates push against closing the gun show loop hole that allow anyone to buy anything on display on the spot without a background check.

    Arizona law requires people to sign a form attesting that their gun purchases are for personal use, and will not be resold. Yet the person can "change their mind" in the parking lot within minutes of making the purchase and sell the guns to another party without breaking the law or violating their signed pledge. This is what occurred in the so called gun running "False and Spurious" case, alledging officers allowed gun sales to occur, when there was nothing they could legally do to stop the re-sales in the parking lots.

    Guns and ammo are untraceable sales. This practice must come to an end. We need "gun owner controls" and we need it now.

    December 20, 2012 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  17. Wilson

    "Now that Republicans have a serious proposal that would pass the House and would seem to meet the requirements Democrats previously insisted on, Reid won't permit a vote."
    So, who is the real party of "no?" Republicans keep putting up bills and Reid keeps "tabling" them, not even allowing a vote. The obstructionist party has been the democrats all along. Yeah, Yeah, the left does not like what is in the bills, but that does not matter in whether or not to allow a vote.

    December 20, 2012 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  18. Name lynn

    You are right we board the airplanes get check from head to toe even ladies security officers check ladie bras as well whats the problem with people carrying guns killing people and trying to blow up the airplanes in mid air how can people in high authority can prevent these killing from happen

    December 20, 2012 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  19. Data Driven

    @Wilson

    The "first" American revolution? What was that? Perhaps you're referring to the Civil War. Well, one of the caprices that historians practice is to call unsuccessful revolutions "rebellions".

    In any case, not sure how Washington's quote applies. We're not in despair; we just want legislation to bring the successful assault weapons ban that lapsed last decade. No revolutions, no despair. Just common sense.

    December 20, 2012 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  20. tammyk tammy

    Per this article, it becomes obvious that restrictive legislation on guns makes a differnce. From 1980 to 1994, number of mass shooting is 4. From 1994 to 2004 when Assault Weapon ban was enacted, number of mass shooting is 1. From 2004 when Assault Weapons ban expired to 2012, number of mass shooting is 7. Enough said, there is a clear impact which results from gun legislation. Number of mass shootings in Great Britian and Australia since enacting legislation after 1996 is zero, zip, nada. Are there no mentally ill people in those countries? Meanwhile, America keeps shooting on with the support of the NRA. Michael Moore was correct in Bowling for Columbine, we need to stop America's gun craze now.

    December 20, 2012 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  21. Rudy NYC

    Some gun owners are having an arms race against their own imaginations.

    I challenge anyone to tell me that last time they heard about an armed home invasion that did not involve some type of illegal activity at the location where the invasion occurred. In fact, most invasions are committed by people that the victims know.

    December 20, 2012 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
  22. GuestAgain

    Legislation wont stop a determined criminal. Did it stop illegal drugs? Illegal immigration? Rape? Murder? Theft? Assault?Additionally, our correctional system (country club) doesnt deter criminals either but you dems and the ACLU think criminals rights supercede those of law abiiding citizens. You cant have it both ways democrats! We should make it mandatory for every citizen to serve in the military to learn honor, discipline and respect through service to our nation rather than receiving services from it. I'm sure the democrats wont like that idea!

    December 20, 2012 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |