Loaded language poisons gun debate
January 31st, 2013
09:01 AM ET
2 years ago

Loaded language poisons gun debate

(CNN) – It's the biggest, fiercest debate taking place across America. But it's poisoned from the get-go by a Tower of Babel predicament.

In disputes over the future of gun laws, people espousing different positions often literally don't understand each other.

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  1. Al-NY,NY

    It doesn't matter to Wayne "bought and paid for" LaPierre. He will accept NO, NONE, ZILCH changes in the way guns are bought and sold in this country. No background checks, no gun show changes, nothing. Anything he says right now is nthing but BS that he and his congressional shills will go against when it counts

    January 31, 2013 09:23 am at 9:23 am |
  2. GuestAgain

    Fix the inner city crime culture instead of punishing the suburban/rural legal gun owners and ignoring the constitution. I guess the facts on the majority of gun crimes are like the imaginary debt and spending problem....

    January 31, 2013 09:32 am at 9:32 am |
  3. rs

    The GOP and the NRA need to learn a painful lesson: they either stand with the majority of Americans fed up with needless gun violence (1,442 killed in America by guns since Dec. 14, 2012) and actually try to fix the problem. Or, they stand for the rights of killers to acquire and use deadly weapons against innocent Americans. It really is THAT simple. The GOP has managed to be on the wrong side of nearly every issue of late, so don't look for any epiphanies on guns either.

    It certainly doesn't help that the NRA's crazy boilerplate (that we've seen posted yesterday here) that the federal government would do better to go after smokers (to save lives) is completely laughable. To think the NRA proposes that people dying from lung cancer (who CHOSE to smoke) is in anyway similar to people executed on our streets is INSANE. I am sure every 1st Grader in Sandy Hook didn't get that choice.

    The only cancer here is the NRA- if the GOP wishes to hold their hand- their CHOICE.

    January 31, 2013 09:35 am at 9:35 am |
  4. JeffersonLives

    The gun grabbers will fail..again. This debate is an old one, nothing new about it, Newtown didnt change anything, it just gave the gun grabbers a pathetic excuse to try again..like they always do. Same old game...nice try. If you dont like our Constitution...then leave the country, there are more socialistic countries waiting to control you and trample you individual rights with open arms :)

    January 31, 2013 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  5. rs

    GuestAgain

    Fix the inner city crime culture instead of punishing the suburban/rural legal gun owners and ignoring the constitution. I guess the facts on the majority of gun crimes are like the imaginary debt and spending problem....
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    You fail to acknowledge where that "inner city crime" get their guns. They get them at gun shows: garage sales (from those "nice" suburban gun owners); through theft (from those same "nice" gun owners too stupid to secure their weapons); and through straw- buyer sales (when those "nice" gun buyers do the purchasing for those criminals- Arizona and N. Carolina gun shops make a nice living supporting that).

    Those kids at Sandy Hook (and many of the 1,442 killed since) didn't live in the "inner city".
    No sir, the "good" guys have blood on their hands- especially if they stick with the insane NRA.

    January 31, 2013 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  6. Dom

    Wayne LaPierre represents millions of Americans. It is not one person's opinion he is stating...it is one voice stating the opinion of millions!

    January 31, 2013 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  7. JeffersonLives

    Haha, CNN cant take the heat so they delete pro-gun comments... losers

    January 31, 2013 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  8. Peace

    La Pierre, can you please sit wherever you are and wait for the verdict. This is peoples nation and they fully have the last say. You can not go against peoples wish with your tiny NRA group.

    January 31, 2013 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  9. freedom

    Despite what scared sheeple spew from their ignorant mouths, the majority of americans support NRA & gun rights. The uniformed masses of sheeple beg to be slaves `& have govt save them from imaginary fears is disgusting. Join the Nra !!! If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

    January 31, 2013 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  10. JeffersonLives

    Its funny to watch the gun grabbers try again for the guns...old game they are playing. Sandy Hook changed nothing, they been going for the guns for decades, they are just taking advantage of a tradegy for political gain....disgusting. But, they will fail..again. IF you dont like our Constitution, then move to a more socialistic country that is eagerly waiting to abuse and trample your individual rights. Meanwhile we will stay a free people here in the USA.

    LIberal gun grabbing logic tactics 101:

    Have spokesman say they support the second amendment
    Then have them talk about scary looking black guns
    Have them say they are "military" grade guns
    Confuse the public as to the difference between automatic and semiautomatic
    lump the two together
    propose "reasonable" laws to protect the "poor little children"
    deny any critics that remind the public of your public statements years ago about wanting complete gun bans in america..
    Hopefully win your game.....then in a few years say its not enough and more laws are needed....repeat process until gun ownership is virtually eliminated.

    Does that sound about right ? Either way, you will fail. We will not be disarmed.

    January 31, 2013 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  11. rs

    JeffersonLives

    The gun grabbers will fail..again. This debate is an old one, nothing new about it, Newtown didnt change anything, it just gave the gun grabbers a pathetic excuse to try again..like they always do. Same old game...nice try. If you dont like our Constitution...then leave the country, there are more socialistic countries waiting to control you and trample you individual rights with open arms
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    Where do you get that nonsense? 1st, no one is talking about "taking" anything. 2nd, if you can't see the problem- you are likely blind or deranged.
    You stand with the killers, or you stand with the sane. The 1% of the population that follows Crazy Wayne and the NRA won't win this one.

    January 31, 2013 10:03 am at 10:03 am |
  12. Rudy NYC

    LaPierre made it abundantly clear yesterday that the NRA represents its' board members, not its' enlisted members.

    January 31, 2013 10:06 am at 10:06 am |
  13. Sniffit

    Wow, what a lovely false equivalency piece you have here CNN.

    January 31, 2013 10:07 am at 10:07 am |
  14. Sniffit

    "Gun control," to many Americans, is not a positive term, Tannen adds."

    And yet, that is the nomenclature the MSM has determined must always be used to refer to GUN SAFETY and the people who advocate it. It's no different than if the MSM decided that the abortion debate must always be caged in terms of "pro-life" and "pro-abortion."

    January 31, 2013 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  15. rs

    freedom

    Despite what scared sheeple spew from their ignorant mouths, the majority of americans support NRA & gun rights. The uniformed masses of sheeple beg to be slaves `& have govt save them from imaginary fears is disgusting. Join the Nra !!! If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
    ________________
    You make the anti-gun argument sooooo much easier.

    January 31, 2013 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  16. Rudy NYC

    JeffersonLives wrote:

    Its funny to watch the gun grabbers try again for the guns... .... .... ....
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    The only "gun grabber" in the mix are people like you. "Mine, mine. Mine, mine, mine."

    January 31, 2013 10:14 am at 10:14 am |
  17. Sniffit

    "It is not one person's opinion he is stating...it is one voice stating the opinion of millions!"

    1% of the country are members and the only reason they've seen growth in the past several weeks is because in response to Sandy Hook and the widespread, pervasive public outrage and demands for gun safety reform, the NRA lowered its membership fees across the board by approximately 70%. And, of course, the NRA then claimed it was people advocating gun safety reform who were "taking advantage of" the masascre of those children...not themselves who used it as a membership drive for lobbying $$$$ and then coming out with positions like "background checks don't work so we shoudl just stop doing them at all," which LaPierre advocated yesterday in front of the Senate.

    CNN deliberately ignored reporting on the membership fee changes...probably for the same reason they always refer to "gun control advocates" in their articles instead of "gun safety advocates."

    January 31, 2013 10:18 am at 10:18 am |
  18. rs

    The NRA playbook:
    Start with reasonable propositions (like full background checks, circa 1999)
    Scare gun owners annually with a "they're going to take your guns message"
    Pay off more GOP Congress members
    With a tragedy- be silent, appear thoughtful
    Offer up a "big government" solution
    Pay off more GOP Congress members
    Blame the victims
    Come out with outlandish statements ("Save smokers!", "ban automibiles!")
    Pay off more GOP Congress members
    Demand less gun control, more guns
    Make BIG profits for gun makers
    Pay off more GOP Congress members
    Tell Americans 1,442 deaths every 6 weeks is expected and O.K.
    Oh, and buy more guns

    Sound about right?

    January 31, 2013 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  19. Lynda/Minnesota

    JeffersonLives

    Haha, CNN cant take the heat so they delete pro-gun comments... losers
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    Let me guess. You're one of those folks referenced in this article who get confused by poisoned debate language and then blame your lack of understanding on the "liberal" media. Pick a different complaint. CNN is anything but liberal.

    January 31, 2013 10:23 am at 10:23 am |