Hope for compromise recedes as budget debate begins
March 13th, 2013
02:05 PM ET
2 years ago

Hope for compromise recedes as budget debate begins

Washington (CNN) - Nothing, it seems, can bridge the bottomless political divide in Washington over taxes and spending.

Not an election last November that gave President Barack Obama a second term. Not the president's new personal outreach to Congress, including a meeting Wednesday with House Republicans. Not polling that shows a strong majority of Americans want both sides to compromise in forging an agreement to reduce chronic federal deficits and debts.

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  1. Rudy NYC

    The only way that Republicans and Paul Ryan can have already put together an honest and serious budget prior to finalizing the fiscal cliff and the sequestered cuts is if they already know what the final result will be. I remind you of how confident they were for weeks and months ahead of the Jan 1 deadlilne that we would go over the edge, and that the cuts would kick in. Think about what that actually means and what all that it implies.

    March 13, 2013 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  2. muchthunder..little rain

    work together..or get out

    March 13, 2013 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  3. Leon Ricks

    Republicans say "No Taxes", but tell me, what's the different in raising taxes and cutting 800,000 employees pay.
    We are voters CNN/RNC. Now Ryan wants to cut 10% of federal workers. We are middle class we are not rich, why are you set on hurting the middle class? Republicans represent the 2%. Republicans, after 2014 you will never have control of the house and senate. It will be a long time, believe me. Also Republicans say that they want the minorities votes. You are a white race party, blacks, Latinos know that. Watch 2014.

    March 13, 2013 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  4. Wake up People!

    The GOP is scared, very scared. They know the majority disagrees with them but they don't care. They refuse to accept they lost and President Obama is their leader, so they and the media continue to spew this ish that he won't compromise. What exactly should he do? Should he implement Mitts plan? Is that what he should do?

    The bias by the media is sickening. If Mitt had won and the democrats acted the way the GOP has been acting since the election, the media would have called them out months ago. No they just continue to carry the water for the GOP and spread their lies and hatred.

    March 13, 2013 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  5. just sayin

    what government spending cuts will democrats vote for? none. where is the compromise in that?

    March 13, 2013 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  6. Ind.

    Democrats don't even know what a budget is.

    March 13, 2013 02:49 pm at 2:49 pm |
  7. Rudy NYC

    just sayin

    what government spending cuts will democrats vote for? none. where is the compromise in that?
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    They've been listed on the Obama re-election web site and now the White House web site since, since throughout the 2012 presidential election campaign.

    The problem is that the right wing treats facts like toxic poison, something to be avoided at all costs, while treating fiction and conspiracy theories as if they were crack cocaine. Addictive. Case in point, Mitch McConnell's recent faux pax. Where are the right wing's revenue increases? They've been screaming about the administration not trying to conform to Simpson-Bowles. Where's the right wing's offering?

    March 13, 2013 02:53 pm at 2:53 pm |
  8. Donna

    Not polling that shows a strong majority of Americans want both sides to compromise in forging an agreement to reduce chronic federal deficits and debts.
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    The answer is easy. Get rid of the Democrats and the trillion dollar deficits along with them. Obama has added $6 TRILLION to our national debt in a lttle over 4 years. He will likely add a total of 10-12 TRILLION to the debt in his 8 years in office. He called George Bush unpatriotic and by his standards he would be judged massively unpatriotic. The most unpatriotic president in the history of the country. Obama and the Democrats will be remembered in history as the president and party that drove the USA over the fiscal cliff and into bankruptcy.

    March 13, 2013 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  9. just sayin

    Ind.
    Democrats don't even know what a budget is
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    why do they need a budget when the government can take as much of your money as it wants, without limit? a budget is only needed for those on a limited income and that sure doesn't include the government.

    March 13, 2013 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  10. The Elephant in the Room

    For 30 years, punk Democrats have allowed the Republican party to take an extreme position into every "negotiation" instead of dismissing it OUT oF HAND. They then allow this "outlyer" to shift the "center" position "rIghtward". It`s time for Democrats to man-up and stop this tactic early.

    The GOP has done this with nominees for the Federal judiciary; they`ve done this on taxes; they`ve done it on guns; and every other topic.

    By suggesting that the ACA has a chance of begin even remotely reduced by the pen of Barack Obama is ludicroius. It is another attempt to put a finger on the rightside of the scale that does not belong. Decomcrats need to smack this down in no uncertain terms.

    March 13, 2013 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  11. YBM

    The republicans in congress are doing the job they were elected to do. Stop as many of the country damaging policies of this administration as they can, and mitigate the damage of the ones they can't, as much as possible.

    March 13, 2013 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  12. rs

    Where is the sense in the GOP's pledge to Grover Norquist to never raise taxes on the 1% who actually own 90% of the wealth in America? Where is the sense in demanding instead that the elderly lose Social Security (something NOT driving the debt or deficit) or the poor lose all access to health care?

    What is their plan for the poor and medical care? Oh yeah, it is called "die young".

    March 13, 2013 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  13. rs

    Just sayin-
    The Democrats have $2trillion on the table today. Get your facts straight.

    March 13, 2013 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  14. SafeJourney

    Congress better compromise for the good of America

    March 13, 2013 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  15. Canuck

    " they just continue to carry the water for the GOP and spread their lies and hatred."

    Agreed. I have often thought that the myth of left-wing media bias was just ....well, a myth. Who can forget how an unquestioning 'liberal' media allowed GWB to just walk into another sovreign country – Iraq – for basically no reason whatsoever.

    March 13, 2013 03:09 pm at 3:09 pm |
  16. Sniffit

    :"what's the different in raising taxes and cutting 800,000 employees pay"

    Who "suffers." THAT is the difference. On the one hand, if we cut the tax loopholes and corporate welfare for giant corporations reporting record profits (which they did all through the Great Recession), then people in the 1% will "suffer" the horrifying damage of maybe needing to forgo that 5th 9,000 s.f. home on a different beach...which will result in them not wanting to create jobs and then firing a bunch of people in a fit of hysterical spite because hey, if I can't have 5 McMansions, then I'm going to downsize and stop making quite as much money. It's much better for the economy if we simply remove 800,000 middle-class jobs from it by specifically targetting government employees who implement and enforce the laws and regulations that apply to industries the GOP/Teatrolls want to coddle, like Big Oil or Big Pharma or environemental protection, education, Medicare and SS. That way, we don't have to watch the rich throw a "we'll shwo you" temper tantrum and fire a bunch of employees in the private sector AND we get the added bonus of completely obliterating the federal government's ability to enforce our laws and provide necessary services, which helps us show that "gov't is broken." Besides, have you seen the demographic breakdown of who is working in gov't?

    March 13, 2013 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  17. James Bond

    Donna, your so right, and ttaxing the rich killls jobs, but we had a goodjobs report, and the stock market is telling us that things are getting worse, what are you smoking? you sound delusional at best, i hope you truly dont believe what your spewing, george gave seminar on howto avoid paying the u.s. govt taxes, by offshoring your money, how is that patriotic? you are in need of serious help, seek it soon

    March 13, 2013 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  18. MOOSE

    Arent you people tired of making excuses for bammy ????

    March 13, 2013 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  19. YBM

    The Joint Committee on Taxation recently released a 96 page report on the tax provisions associated with Affordable Care Act. The report describes the 21 tax increases included in Obamacare, totaling $1.058 trillion – a steep increase from initial assessment, according to the Tax Prof Blog. The summer 2012 estimate is nearly twice the $569 billion estimate produced at the time of the passage of the law in March 2010. -Does this really suprise anybody? Yep, we gotta vote for it to see what is in it. The "fundamental transformation of america" continues.

    March 13, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  20. just sayin

    rs
    Just sayin-
    The Democrats have $2trillion on the table today. Get your facts straight
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    got any specifics on those cuts? is one trillion savings from the war in iraq that ended 2-3 years ago? btw, $2 trillion is a pea hole in the snow. the usa will still be running up $10 trillion in debt during that time. $2 trillion probably won't even cut the rate of growth of spending. time for the democrats to get honest. i just don't think they are capable of it.

    March 13, 2013 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  21. Rudy NYC

    Donna wrote:

    The answer is easy. Get rid of the Democrats and the trillion dollar deficits along with them. Obama has added $6 TRILLION to our national debt in a lttle over 4 years.
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    A Republican with Republican control of the Congress would have added at least double that amount. Their first reaction in 2008 after the TARP bailout was, "Oh. We need to lower taxes on the banks and big businesses. Let Detroit go bankrupt. We helped Wall Street, but Main Street has to wait for their's to trickle down after 'economic growth' resumes."

    March 13, 2013 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  22. Rudy NYC

    YBM

    YBM

    The Joint Committee on Taxation recently released a 96 page report on the tax provisions associated with Affordable Care Act. The report describes the 21 tax increases included in Obamacare, totaling $1.058 trillion – a steep increase from initial assessment, according to the Tax Prof Blog. The summer 2012 estimate is nearly twice the $569 billion estimate produced at the time of the passage of the law in March 2010. -Does this really suprise anybody? Yep, we gotta vote for it to see what is in it. The "fundamental transformation of america" continues.
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    BREAKING NEWS: Latest Ryan Plan Retains All Tax Increases Under Obamacare.

    Additionally, the Ryan Plan V3.0 cuts the same $700 billion from Medicare, except he repeals the portion that spends the revenue on medical expenses. He spends it on a $500 Billion defense increase. Please try to keep up.

    [ PS - The $200 billion difference is used to make up for existing defense cuts.]

    March 13, 2013 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  23. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Rudy NYC says,
    Where are the right wing revenue increases? They moved to China Rudy. The phesants voted themselves a pay raise Rudy. Unfortuntntly they have to go to China to cash it. The Right Wing is paying most of the Taxes now and you, and Obama want more. Sorry Rudy. The right wing is all tapped out to the tune of 17 Trillion Dollars. You have all the tools. Now go get it.

    March 13, 2013 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |