(CNN) - Bill O'Reilly, the conservative Fox News host, believes same-sex marriage advocates have a more convincing argument than opponents, who do nothing but rehash scripture to make their point.
"The compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals," O'Reilly said Tuesday on Fox. "That's where the compelling argument is. 'We're Americans. We just want to be treated like everybody else.' That's a compelling argument, and to deny that, you have got to have a very strong argument on the other side. The argument on the other side hasn't been able to do anything but thump the Bible."
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O'Reilly has previously stated he takes a libertarian view on the issue, and repeated Tuesday night that it's a decision that should be left up to the states. "I support civil unions. I always have. The gay marriage thing, I don't feel that strongly about it one way or another."
Both sides of the debate clashed this week in Washington as the Supreme Court hears challenges to two cases dealing with the issue.
O'Reilly has been less critical of so-called Bible thumpers in the past. In a May 2009 column on his website, he again argued the matter should be decided by states but also said he understands that "most Americans believe heterosexual marriage deserves a special place in our society."
"Our Judeo-Christian traditions, which have made the United States the most prosperous and just society the world has ever known, speak to a family built around a responsible mother and a father-certainly the optimum when it comes to raising children," he wrote.
But, he argued, people who feel strongly about traditional marriage "have allowed themselves to be intimidated" and have refused to stand up for what they believe in.
"When was the last time you saw a Catholic cardinal or archbishop speak against gay marriage on television? I know–I've invited some of them. They all turned me down," he wrote.
His comments Tuesday weren't the first time he's taken on his own party. Last week, O'Reilly sharply criticized Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann for making "trivial attacks" and unsubstantiated claims of President Barack Obama's so-called perks in the White House.
Which bible? Don't all different religions have different bibles?
The states should not be able to legally discriminate against a segment of their citizens who are doing nothing wrong. even convicted murderers have the right to marry. banning gays from marrying makes about as much sense as banning the manufacture of left-handed scissors! people are not all the same. that's the one fact the fundies and righties can't wrap their heads around. they expect everyone to be squashed into that straight, white, christian mold and they hate and fear anyone who doesn't fit. we fought a civil war over states wanting to treat some of their people a whole lot differently than others. and those states lost. if they wanted to go back to owning slaves, should we let them?
One's feelings or beliefs about the Truth have no bearing on It. The Truth is absolute, irrevocable. and immovable. The Rock who is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, stands firm in the face of man's foolishness. The wisdom of the wise and the intelligence of the intelligent will be confounded by Him who returns soon on clouds of great power and glory. REPENT!
to Robertholt. this is not a theocracy. your argument is invalid.
Even the Truth can't be moderated by a man no matter how much he tries.
It is pointless to try and reason regarding morality with an immoral society. The Divine consequences of these sins will be the only thing that this country will understand. Unfortunately, it will leave us all in utter ruin. When you see that day come, remember you will not have gotten there without many warnings.
Sorry O'Reilly, the Bible rocks and rules and without it it is everyone for themselves making up the moral rules as they go. You see what a Bible-less, God-less society looks like now compared to the early 50's and before. Mass killings by psychos who breed through violent video games, violent crimes paralyzing most major cities, porn filth on cable, taking God's name in vain and total cussing in all popular movies...just dirt and scum pervasive in our society compared to when gays were kept in the closet by LAW, when adultery had consequences, when lying, cursing, missing church, not saying the pledge etc were ALL universally looked down on as crass, crude, sub intelligent behavior...when the Bible was read in school and students were allowed to pray, there WERE no such hate and murder headlines on an HOURLY basis like today. ALL the early first Christians DIED for what they saw Jesus do first hand...there was no faith involved at all...none needed, they SAW Jesus raise the dead, heal the sick, turn water into wine, walk on the sea and ascend into heaven and they DIED as martyrs in the Colluseum rather than simply recant, say they DIDN'T see it as first hand witnesses and live. This is POWERFUL testimony that ALL the Bible states is true, and SINCE it is true as testified to by the 10,000's of first Christian martyrs, then it is the BIBLE that is the standard of right and wrong, NOT Bill O'Reilley's politically correct nonsense, or the Supreme Court's, or the Gay community's CHAMPION as well as the baby killing abortionists, BARAK OBAMA. The world is UPSIDE DOWN these days because we ABANDONED the Bible and Christianity. Think on it, Billy Boy!
It is not illegal to be homosexual, any more than it is to fornicate, but both actions are condemned by a holy God. This country has gone from being a nation governed by men who were governed by God to being one that is governed by men looking to supplant God. Jesus quoted the OT almost 200 times during His ministry, so calling us bible thumpers isn't the worst thing we could be called. I'm just waiting for the time when expressing my Christian beliefs becomes a hate crime, and lauding immorality is renamed love in this America, AKA 'New Sodom'
The reptile is shedding its skin
OREILLY – his ratings are going down so he's trying to appear moderate to get some new ratings points–it likely will not work
Who you marry is not a federal or state choice it should be left up to individuals? So the anti-gay group wants the states to determine if a woman can marry another woman or a man marry a man. How is oppression at the state level any different than the Federal level? Sorry but for me this is simply a case of discrimination and the Marriage Protection ACT should be easily defeated. Oh by the way is there a clause in the Marriage Protection Act regarding penalties for all the damage heterosexuals have done to the institution of marriage? If not then the title needs to be changed. LOL.
OMG– hell just experienced winter for the very first time!!! Bill O'Reilly– the voice of reason? I am having trouble believing what I am reading....
From the article – "Our Judeo-Christian traditions, which have made the United States the most prosperous and just society the world has ever known,..."
That makes no sense. By his logic all Euorpean and South American countries would be just as prosperous.
first thing I've agreed with coming out of fox news in a very, very long time. Good for you, Mr. O'Reilly!
There is no god. Let everyone do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else.
Well now don't have to worry about supporting the same sex marriage issue and going to hell...it just froze over be cause for the first time in my adult life I fond myself in the awkward position of agreeing with...dare I say?...Bill O'Reily!!!!
The only monsters I read about are heterosexual men who sexually abuse their daughters and rape children. Who cares what people do in the privacy of their home as long as there are no victims. If two people love each other why should I sweat it if it doesn't affect me. There was debate and finally a correct change in attitude toward our Black citizens. The same goes for any previous marginalized group. We should NOT have any group as second class citizens. The Republicans continue to use "Fear" as a hot button issue instead of concentrating on JOBS. I am 70 and agree with the younger people, "What's the big deal?"
Perhaps Bill may not be as bad as his reputation when it comes to social issues. He's right, for a country which trumpets freedom all over the planet many of us have very small minded views when we have to grant freedom to fringe or minority groups. Nobody gets hurt if gays marry each other. There's no reason to deny the right to marry to gays or anyone else. The bible is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with our constitution.
The Republicans will quote scripture to get your attention off the fact they are doing NOTHING about jobs or job creation. They sure are interested in what goes on in our bedroom. You could say they are the USA equivalent of the
"Religious police". You now know how to vote in 2014 to avoid more of their "Bedroom laws".
Here is a truth that no one can deny; Everyone eventually is going to die, O'Reilly, you, me, then we will all see if the word of God (Bible) is true, it says there is a Hell a place of eternal torment and there is also a Heaven; God has appointed a day of judgment for all of us, Its only a matter of time for all of us to find out. Say what you say, post what you post, it will be brought up that day. Take a chance and be an unbeliever! As for me I believe and if the unbeliever is right I'll be there with you but if your wrong, hell & damnation awaits you. I'll take my chances with all the evidence we have that Jesus Christ was crucified and only one to resurrect. Not only does the Bible tells us that but so does Roman history.
The thing is, and I now have a new respect for Bill on this one, he makes a simple point. When did our country forget "all men are created equal"? Now of course it should say all humans or men and women, but you get the point. To put it plainly, if you are opposed to allowing equal rights in ALL matters for gay people, (this includes marriage) you are a BIGOT. I do not care what silly biblical reasons you quote, or how you think this broadly affects family life. You are expressing a form of hate and small mindedness. If you need a more economic reason, their are X number of gay couples who would get married tomorrow if allowed. They will all pay the "marriage tax" there is a quick hundred million for school systems or that can be used to pay down our debt. If you do not think gay marriage should be allowed you are a BIGOT, please stop.
For starters, he didn't 'blast' anyone – this is more typical liberal CNN junk trying to make it sound like someone from a different (traditional, or conservative) set of values is militantly backing the gay agenda as if to persuade the rest of the right to get on board. Those who watch him know he is not some staunch, immovable right-wing fanatic – he is fair and common-sensed, period. But please, don't try to make it sound like he's beating the gay drum for the left – He went on to state that the government should have no say at all in the decision and that it should remain in the non-secular realm as to who should be considered 'married.' He does support the fact that all couples, be they married or in civil unions should be granted the same rights and privileges as it pertains to the law. Calm down, Miss Killough!
Bill what are these "Judeo-Christian" values of which you refer? And how have they helped us become anything but a divided strife ridden society. Religious extremists are the absoulute worst people. They espouse discrimination against gays and women and wage class warfare against the poor. Grow up Bill we stopped drinking your brand of kool-aid long ago.
I am surprised that he is going against the people that support him and the Republican Party. What percent of Christians make up the republican party.... thirty-sum percent. I guess since they did not win with the Christian Support, now the Republican party is dumping them. All that means is the thirty-sum percent that supports Republican party will be split 3 ways approx 8 % Dem, 20% teabagers, and 10 percent will stay with the republican party. Thank you Bill O'Reilly
I don't know enough about how the institution of marriage initially came about to be able to comment on whether gay marriage should be allowed. Can gay people be afforded the equivalent of equal rights without being obligated to calling it "marriage"? For the record, I fully believe in equal rights for all and that if there is a God, he/she is just as responsible for gay people being gay as straight people being straight (I've heard religious people argue that God doesn't make "imperfect" people – with the implication that gayness is an imperfection).