March 28th, 2013
06:10 PM ET
1 year ago

Rush Limbaugh concedes conservatives 'lost' marriage debate

(CNN) - Conservatives who oppose same-sex marriage must accept that they’ve “lost the issue,” radio host Rush Limbaugh argued Thursday.

“This issue is lost,” the conservative firebrand said. “I don't care what the Supreme Court does, this is now inevitable - and it's inevitable because we lost the language on this. “

Limbaugh went on to assert conservatives “lost the issue when we started allowing the word ‘marriage’ to be bastardized and redefined by simply adding words to it.”

“Marriage is one thing, and it was not established on the basis of discrimination,” he continued. “It wasn't established on the basis of denying people anything. ‘Marriage’ is not a tradition that a bunch of people concocted to be mean to other people with. But we allowed the left to have people believe that it was structured that way. “

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on the legality of same-sex marriage earlier this week.

Another notable conservative, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, said on Tuesday that same-sex marriage advocates have a more convincing argument than opponents, who do nothing but rehash scripture to make their point.

"The compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals," O'Reilly said Tuesday on Fox. "That's where the compelling argument is. 'We're Americans. We just want to be treated like everybody else.' That's a compelling argument, and to deny that, you have got to have a very strong argument on the other side. The argument on the other side hasn't been able to do anything but thump the Bible."

O'Reilly has previously stated he takes a libertarian view on the issue, and repeated Tuesday night that it's a decision that should be left up to the states. "I support civil unions. I always have. The gay marriage thing, I don't feel that strongly about it one way or another."


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  1. Locker

    People oppose gay marriage because they don't like gay people. Period. There is no real reason for them to care about someone else's marriage that doesn't affect them in any way. Gotta love the "small government" party doing everything they can to force their religious bias on everyone else while claiming to be the victim. Pure projection.

    March 29, 2013 10:49 am at 10:49 am |
  2. The_Mick

    Fair is Fair wrote to
    jodipo36 who wrote:

    Only gonna say this once. Marriage is not a biblical invention. You "Christians" stating it is are flat out ignorant. Marriage existed long before Christianity did.
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    No one ever said Christianity invented marriage... Christianity had been around for only 2000 years. The Old Testament refers to marraige and was written thousands of years before Christianity.
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    Marriage existed and was written about THOUSANDS of years before the Old Testament which, by the way, isn't "thousands" of years before Christianity. Moses, or whoever his legend represents, lived 1.8 thousand years before Christianity and the Old Testament was recreated in semi-modern form less than 600 years before Jesus' time when King Josiah was trying to claim the area that used to be Israel was rightly his since he was the King of Judah. Today's official Israeli Archeologists say Josiah made a lot of it up.

    March 29, 2013 10:50 am at 10:50 am |
  3. inspiration

    It's a case of Stockholm syndrome!

    March 29, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  4. Jimmy

    I heard the SCOTUS is considering to allow two wives in a marriage.
    That sounded good to me.
    But my wife wasn't impressed.

    March 29, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  5. rabbitcommarogerindyreader

    For anyone who maintains marriage is a religious invention:
    No god ever said, when these two folks are married, they will be able to file their taxes jointly.
    No god ever said, when these two folks are married, they'll have automatic power of attorney, and hospital visitation rights.
    No god ever said, when these two folks are married, they'll not be required to testify against each other in court.
    Civil marriage and your particular church's "holy matrimony" are and always have been two separate things in the USA. Get over it.

    March 29, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  6. Lynda/Minnesota

    I am still trying to understand why I should concern myself with who marries whom? Quite frankly, it's none of my business who my neighbors decide to marry. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever.

    March 29, 2013 10:53 am at 10:53 am |
  7. ncwriter

    The issue is and always has been religion and the failure of both sides to recognize that. To a Christian, Marriage means Holy Matrimony and is a religious event. To a secular person, Marriage means you get a tax break, alimony and automatic visitation rights in the hospital. Both sides have failed to understand and respect the other and resent this being pushed forward. If the left wins this, it is because of the right's inexperience with this kind of political fight (although they are getting better fast), not because the left is correct.

    March 29, 2013 10:54 am at 10:54 am |
  8. ghostwriter

    "Marriage is a religious sacrament between 1 man and 1 woman PERIOD"- This is completely and utterly wrong. Marriage was around LONG before it was coopted by the Church in the Middle Ages. REAL "traditional marriage" was about property rights (with brides typically counting as part of said "property"), family lineages, succession, and so on. Considering that same-sex couples are largely interested in having the same LEGAL rights as straight couples, these same-sex couples are actually hewing much closer to the REAL definition of "traditional marriag" than are people like you who keep bringing "god" and religion into an argument in which they have no place. Please learn some history before spouting off about something that you clearly know nothing about,.

    March 29, 2013 10:57 am at 10:57 am |
  9. Sniffit

    "If the left wins this, it is because of the right's inexperience with this kind of political fight (although they are getting better fast), not because the left is correct."

    The right has plenty of experience with this kind of political fight: they've lost them repeatedly and yet fail to learn anything each time.

    March 29, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  10. Jimmy

    If one wife is not enough.
    Then three is not too many!

    March 29, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  11. Fair is Fair

    The Real Tom Paine

    -Fair is Fair

    jodipo36

    Only gonna say this once. Marriage is not a biblical invention. You "Christians" stating it is are flat out ignorant. Marriage existed long before Christianity did.
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    No one ever said Christianity invented marriage... Christianity had been around for only 2000 years. The Old Testament refers to marraige and was written thousands of years before Christianity.
    ******************
    What about prior to that? Are you assuming that the Hebrews invented it? A few references to marriage is not indicative of its origin.
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    Gee, Tom... I never said that the Hebrews invented it either... all I said was that the Old Testament refered to it., and that the Old Testament predates Christianity. Arguing for arguement's sake are you?

    March 29, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  12. rabbitcommarogerindyreader

    Todd: How sad this all is. Is there NOTHING sacred in the United States anymore?
    March 29, 2013 10:48 am at 10:48 am |

    Todd, the whole point of keeping religious dogma out of civil law is that YOU decide, or allow your church to decide, what is "sacred" to YOU,... and everyone else and their particular chosen church can do the same for them, without affecting one another. The government has no business dealing with what constitutes "sacred" because it's different for everyone. Government conservatively can keep us from each other's throats by keeping our rights EQUAL and not allowing your religious dogma to cross the line of symmetry and start dictating MY freedoms.

    March 29, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  13. me@me

    Call me bigoted buy gay marriage is not marriage. It is what it is ie gay marriage.

    March 29, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  14. Coyote

    Its time to grow up conservatives. Intelectualism is on the rise!

    March 29, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  15. Jeb

    Conservatives believe in small government........just small enough to fit in your bedroom.

    March 29, 2013 11:01 am at 11:01 am |
  16. Chuck Anziulewicz

    The victories for marriage equality in Maine, Minnesota, Washington, and Maryland last November tell me one thing: Americans are learning to make better value judgments.

    Why is it that Straight couples are encouraged to date, get engaged, marry and build lives together in the context of monogamy and commitment, and that this is a GOOD thing … yet for Gay couples to do exactly the same is somehow a BAD thing? To me this seems like a very poor value judgment.

    Ask any Straight couple why they choose to marry. Their answer will not be, “We want to get married so that we can have sex and make babies!” That would be absurd, since couples do not need to marry to make babies, nor is the ability of even desire to make babies a prerequisite for obtaining a marriage license.

    No, the reason couples choose to marry is to make a solemn declaration before friends and family members that they wish to make a commitment to one another’s happiness, health, and well-being, to the exclusion of all others. Those friends and family members will subsequently act as a force of encouragement for that couple to hold fast to their vows.

    THAT’S what makes marriage a good thing, whether the couple in question is Straight OR Gay. It looks like American voters are starting to accept that. And the GOP ignores this at their own peril.

    March 29, 2013 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  17. lottie

    and we care about what rush says because??? This jerk should not get anymore print than is necessary.

    March 29, 2013 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  18. tom

    I think homosexuality is repugnant. That said, if two gays want to shack up together and if that's their idea of the pursuit of happiness, why not? But they do not have the right to redefine the meaning of the word "marriage" as it has existed for 5 thousand years. Despite what the gays claim, a gay partnership is not identical to a hetero marriage. I'm sure Bill O'Reilly's wife must be flattered that he apparently sees no difference between her and a gay man, but that's her problem. If gays were to pick any term other than "marriage" which was given the same legal status as marriage, then what's the problem? The problem is, gays don't just want equality, they want revenge against a system they feel has abused them. And forcing the system to redefine marriage will be that revenge. And that is precisely why I have and will continue to resist efforts to redefine the meaning of marriage as anything other than between a man and a woman.

    March 29, 2013 11:03 am at 11:03 am |
  19. Wendy

    So if we allow gay marriage then we start allowing persons to be married to multiple persons and we allow some idiot who wants to marry his barn animals? Any type of union can be considered marriage therefore the welfare system goes further into debt than it already is right? Any crazy fool can marry anything, anyone and it be considered marriage... Sad to say that in America we have become so open minded that our brains are falling out !!!

    March 29, 2013 11:04 am at 11:04 am |
  20. ST

    What a good Friday!!! I do not stop laughing going through all these comments. Please CNN leave this discussion open. It seems its the heated one, thus letting people learn from different perspectives.

    March 29, 2013 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  21. Norman

    I just don't understand why people are so darned concerned with other people's marriages. If 2 people want to marry, that's not my business. It's not like stopping gay marriage is suddenly going to make people stop being gay! And, on the other hand, legalizing gay marriage isn't going to make people suddenly end their "traditional" marriages and go find a gay partner. I think some folks spend waayyy too much time obsessing over gay sex.......

    March 29, 2013 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  22. kevin

    America is ready to move on... reps have to hold up everything.. America has spoken

    March 29, 2013 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  23. Jimmy

    One marriage equals one each husband and wife.
    When we start defining words it's Katy bar the door.

    March 29, 2013 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  24. The Real Tom Paine

    -Fair is Fair

    The Real Tom Paine

    -Fair is Fair

    jodipo36

    Only gonna say this once. Marriage is not a biblical invention. You "Christians" stating it is are flat out ignorant. Marriage existed long before Christianity did.

    No one ever said Christianity invented marriage... Christianity had been around for only 2000 years. The Old Testament refers to marraige and was written thousands of years before Christianity.
    ******************
    What about prior to that? Are you assuming that the Hebrews invented it? A few references to marriage is not indicative of its origin.
    --
    Gee, Tom... I never said that the Hebrews invented it either... all I said was that the Old Testament refered to it., and that the Old Testament predates Christianity. Arguing for arguement's sake are you?
    ****************
    Actually, I was not trying to pick a fight, I was asking for a clarification on your part, since your statement might be interpreted as more sweeping than you intended. Paranoid?

    March 29, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  25. Rick 7809

    When it gets right down to it Rush, Sean H. and Bill O'Reilly only have one thing that is important to them. What right wing ideology can I feed to my followers so I can make more money. They have Faux News as a format, who also is interested in getting their followers to part with their money, and as far as they are concerned, they win. $$$$$$

    March 29, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
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