Gun vote unlikely to happen next week
April 3rd, 2013
10:23 AM ET
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Gun vote unlikely to happen next week

(CNN) – A Senate vote on tighter gun control laws is unlikely to occur next week, according to two Democratic sources, who described a hang-up among Republicans over bolstering rules regulating background checks during gun sales.

President Barack Obama has been pressing for new gun laws since December's shooting at a school in Connecticut. He will travel to Colorado Wednesday to resume his calls for laws he says would prevent the type of violence that left 26 people dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Background checks have become the focus of federal legislation, and are regarded as the measure with the best possible chance of gaining congressional approval. Other provisions, including a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines, are not expected to gain enough support from Republicans and moderate Democrats.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid originally vowed to bring a gun control bill up for a vote when Congress returns from recess next week, but sources said Reid doesn't have the 60 votes needed to break a Republican filibuster of the legislation.

Democratic leaders are currently looking at ways to bring Republicans on board with their plan, which would require reworking the bill. Sources said Democrats would like to make a deal with Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, who could then convince other Republicans to support the plan.

Coburn has said that he'll oppose any measure bolstering background checks that includes record-keeping on gun owners.

Other opponents of increased background checks say the plan would unnecessarily apply to innocent handoffs between family members. Many say the current focus should be on improving the current system's record-keeping or insuring individuals with mental health issues are included in the database.

But proponents say the so-called gun show loophole means as many as 40% of gun sales are not subject to the type of background check which could keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.

Recent polling indicates a high level of support for requiring a background check on every gun sale. The most recent survey, from Morning Joe/Marist, found almost nine of ten Americans supported universal background checks. Other March surveys have put that number at 85% or above.

CNN Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin contributed to this report.


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soundoff (45 Responses)
  1. Cymbal Ism

    It's a safe bet that the voting will go the way of party lines, with the outcome centered on the manufacture's well being. It's also a safe bet that many of our elected officials have interest in the facilities that manufacture weapons. They surely will vote their pocket books/wallets best interest, regardless of social outcry.

    April 3, 2013 10:31 am at 10:31 am |
  2. Hugh Jorgan

    I'm a gun owner that is not opposed to universal background checks. I am however disgusted by the media constantly spouting this 40% statistic which is a lie.

    April 3, 2013 10:36 am at 10:36 am |
  3. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA

    Congress can keep fooling themselves thinking that we're not paying attention to what's going on up there regarding this gun debate. My senators Warner & Kaine better vote wisely. I don't care what their NRA rating is. If they vote against tighter gun restrictions, they've lost my vote. This is not a partisan issue, this is an American issue.

    April 3, 2013 10:39 am at 10:39 am |
  4. 82nd ABN VET

    If you want any legislation to pass, you may as well just vote on a Republican plan and not stick to the Democrat's plan.

    60 votes are needed to pass, meaning there needs to be 5 Republicans willing to vote for the plan. I dont see that happening. You might get 1 or 2, if even that.

    There will be no gun registry. There will be no banning of so called "assualt weapons". There will be no banning of so called "high capacity magazines". By the way, a 30 round magazine for an AR-15 is actually called a STANDARD CAPACITY magazine, the 10 round magazines that were LEGAL in CA, NY, etc are actually called RESTRICTED CAPACITY magazines.

    I would actually like to see where the votes of those vulnerable few Dems will fall when the bill actually comes forward. I would venture to say that maybe 3 of them will not vote for it.

    April 3, 2013 10:45 am at 10:45 am |
  5. rs

    Remember Congress (both parties): better than 90% of Americans WANT full bckground checks and other common sense gun violence laws. Nearly 3,500 Americans have dies since the Newtown Massacre, and we are waiting for thoughtful, meaningful change. Hint: it isn't the NRA's line, nor their meager 3% of the population.

    I for one, will only vote in 2014 for someone who supports change in the way this nation deals with firearms and ammunition. This country needs these laws- all of us.

    April 3, 2013 10:45 am at 10:45 am |
  6. Guest

    Yeah, ok, all of our nations policy should be based on liberal social outcry. Just say NO to gun control, plenty of laws on the books already so lets try actually enforcing them before stealing individual rights from citizens.

    April 3, 2013 10:46 am at 10:46 am |
  7. Sniffit

    "almost nine of ten Americans supported universal background checks. "

    That's all you need to know.

    April 3, 2013 10:52 am at 10:52 am |
  8. Calidip

    Even when it will come down to a vote, nothing will pass. It won't be a party line vote. There are a lot of democrats, especially in rural districts, that lean pro-2nd amendment. They know that their constituents will vote for "the other guy" come next election if they vote for any type of gun control. I am one of them. I am a liberal, Obama voting democrat who is a gun owner. I've never voted republican in my life, but if my congressman (D-Kirkpatrick) votes for any gun restriction, she lost my vote. She barely won last election.

    April 3, 2013 10:55 am at 10:55 am |
  9. Romney is Still NOT My Hero

    I'm glad to see that more gun owners are starting to support gun control laws. The NRA is acting like it's un-American to have stricter gun laws. Times are changing, people are changing, and the laws must follow suit.

    April 3, 2013 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  10. Minnie Mouse

    I am pretty sure that the American public would feel better if more energy was put into resolving the ongoing gun violence, rather than to be concerned about pumping a million dollars into the medical industry to research peoples brains. The government can never stay on subject, this is why nothing ever gets resolved and goes on and on........ If you really want to spend a million, then spend it on researching cures for all of the illnesses that are already on going that need help. If it's just a say about our brains, then don't keep it up because you attention needs to be on our country. People are dying everyday for no reasons at all, and they do not deserve it. As a country, we are doing nothing to make things safer for anyone.

    April 3, 2013 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  11. Sniffit

    Study just released, which CNN will of course never ever want to talk about or publish an article covering, just analzyed objective statistical data regarding gun violence in all 50 states and determined that the 10 states with the weakest gun laws suffer an aggregate level of gun violence and gun crime that is 104% HIGHER than the 10 states with the strictst gun laws. THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE. Don't be fooled by the myopic, tunnel-visioned MSM focus on inner cities etc. They only do that because the raw number is bigger, which is because the overall population is far far larger. What's important is the INCIDENCE RATE...i.e., your likelihood of suffering gun violence...in a particular state. The 10 winners on that measure:

    1) Louisiana
    2) Alaska
    3) Alabama
    4) Arizona
    5) Misssissippi
    6) South Carolina
    7) New Mexico
    8) Missouri
    9) Arkansas
    10) Georgia

    April 3, 2013 10:57 am at 10:57 am |
  12. N C

    Laws only restrict those who submit to obey them. Is that a difficult concept to understand? Laws are also only as strong as their enforcement. Literally thousands of people have been turned away by failing a background check under the current system (which is a federal crime in and of itself) and only 14 of them have seen any jail time. Try enforcing all the laws we already have for a few years, then maybe we can talk about passing more unenforceable legislation.

    April 3, 2013 10:57 am at 10:57 am |
  13. David Snyder

    There’s no oath to the governor or president. There’s no oath to obey every law. Instead, the oath is to uphold the constitutions (of the state and the country).

    So, suppose a law is unconstitutional. Do you have an obligation to administer it?

    The answer is no. In your oath of office, he promised to uphold the constitution. This means that we are bound to disobey or nullify any law that is unconstitutional.

    April 3, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  14. Richard Purcell

    Thousands,Children died,Women raped & killed in the wake of a War making such Rights possible,Forgotten for sake of26?

    April 3, 2013 11:00 am at 11:00 am |
  15. lottie

    it is a shame that the NRA has so much power. Time for better gun laws. It won't stop all killings but is having our teachers armed a better idea? The gun nuts are not in the majority but seamed to be congregated in red states with the lowest education rates and the most poverty. Why is that????? Do they really think background checks for all will have the government taking their guns??? 30 shots to hit a target or kill something. Really?

    April 3, 2013 11:01 am at 11:01 am |
  16. Canuck

    I predict that nothing will change. When the the next senseless gun massacre happens there will be much hand-wringing and politicians will promise change.... which will not happen.... rinse and repeat...

    April 3, 2013 11:01 am at 11:01 am |
  17. rs

    Guest

    Yeah, ok, all of our nations policy should be based on liberal social outcry. Just say NO to gun control, plenty of laws on the books already so lets try actually enforcing them before stealing individual rights from citizens.
    ________________
    Yeah! Far better we follow the lead of the radical 3% of the NRA!

    April 3, 2013 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  18. Sniffit

    "It won't stop all killings but is having our teachers armed a better idea? "

    Arming teachers has nothing to do with gun safety and protecting our chldren. It's sole purpose is to get municipalities or even states to enact laws that require them to PURCHASE firearms, thereby tapping into an entirely new "market" for the gun manufacturers and retailers who own the NRA and whoh are looking for a way to replace the decrease in revenue they expect to suffer when Iraq and Afghanistan finally wind up completely and budget cuts start hitting DoD and the rest of the gov't. It's that simple. And when manufacturers/retailers make their money off this "TeacherCop" idiocy, if it gets enacted here or there, they will iimmediately send some of the revenue it generates straight to the NRA's bank accounts.

    April 3, 2013 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  19. John

    People seems to think its republican vs democrats. There are plenty of us independents that are very pro second amendment.

    April 3, 2013 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
  20. liamnc

    This is a waste of time, none of this garbage will pass, not even the universal background checks.

    April 3, 2013 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
  21. rs

    David Snyder

    There’s no oath to the governor or president. There’s no oath to obey every law. Instead, the oath is to uphold the constitutions (of the state and the country).

    So, suppose a law is unconstitutional. Do you have an obligation to administer it?
    ___________________________
    .... and the GOP has apparently cornered that market, appearing before the SC onan almost daily basis attempting to defend their wackadoodle and un-Constitutional laws (Arizona alone has been ther 6 times THIS year alone). I hate to tell you this- but until the SC declared something un-Constitutional the law more or less stands. It isn't up to Crazy Wayne, or the NRA, a couple of cracked TEA Party Sheriffs or anybody else to determine a laws status. The law IS the law, and all must be enforced. Something the Right just never gets.
    Now another factoid- NO part of the Constitution stands as an absolute. There are in fact, restrictions and interpretations on the Consttitution based upon more than 200 years of case law. If we didn't have that, the NRA would only be defending the rights of musket owners, and women wouldn't vote, and there'd still be slavery.

    April 3, 2013 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  22. Barry

    The whole 40% statistic touted by Obama is a flat out lie, incorrect, and outdated information. This so called 40% gun purchases that don't pass background checks has been debunked by the Washington Times or the Washington Post. This was based on a survey of some 250 people back in 1994!!! Here was the question: “Was the person you acquired this gun from a licensed firearm dealer?” The answer choices were “yes,” “probably was/think so,” “probably not,” “no/definitely not,” “don’t know”. Those are vague answer choices and can be manipulated to put forth whatever conclusion you want.

    April 3, 2013 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  23. rs

    Richard Purcell

    Thousands,Children died,Women raped & killed in the wake of a War making such Rights possible,Forgotten for sake of26?
    ______________
    What florid language. Here's a thought- what if it were one of your children? One that was blown apart by a crackpot with an AR-15? Think about that. Now explain why the killer's rights to guns is more imortant that a First-grader's right to grow-up.Fool.

    April 3, 2013 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  24. rs

    John

    People seems to think its republican vs democrats. There are plenty of us independents that are very pro second amendment.
    _______________________
    And yet 90% of Americans want background checks.

    April 3, 2013 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  25. Gaylon38

    Yep we can vote the Liberal way then soon there will be no America. Obama has melted us financially, is working to destroy the military, has already destroyed our health protection and now is wanting to redo our currency putting his picture on the dollar bill. Martin Luther King on the five dollar bill. Rev Jackson on the 100 dollar bill. So go ahead turn this country over to the nuts and see how long the rest can stay here.

    April 3, 2013 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
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