(CNN) – As gun legislation talks between Sen. Joe Manchin, D-West Virginia, and Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, stretch on with no compromise over a provision that would include background checks for all gun purchases, Manchin has begun talks with another conservative Republican, Sen. Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania), sources familiar with the talks confirm to CNN.
A Senate Democratic leadership aide says they "feel positive" about the prospects of brokering a deal that would include a background check provision, but "it's not done and could still fall apart."
If a deal is reached, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will move quickly to include new language in the bill, the aide said.
An aide to Toomey said the senator is talking to colleagues on both sides of the aisle. However, the aide also cautioned they may not be as close to a deal as Democratic aides are suggesting.
An aide to Coburn insists that he is still involved in the process. When asked if Toomey's involvement means Coburn is out, the aide said, "Not at all. He's still hopeful they can reach an agreement."
Toomey is the biggest mistake Pennsylvanians have made in a long time. It will be corrected when he's up for re-election (if they put up Mickey Mouse or Pluto against him, he stands no chance). The voter's will vote before their rights are taken away totally, headed by people like Toomey.
Majority of the country supports universal background checks. Get your heads out of behinds and get a clue. DO NOT GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!!
This nation needs Gun-Ban Laws.
The irony is we undergo deep background checks buying a car or a home, and probably nearly as much if we use credit to buy that massively inflated AR-15, but not at all for the gun itself.
At the very least, full, thorough background checks (as laid out in Connecticut) ought to be instituted. To the foes of background checks:
1. stop the "background checks lead to registration lists lead to seizure". You have no proof, no historical examples EVER in the U.S., and frankly you sound silly and paranoid- not to mention a tool of the ever bizarre Wayne La Pierre and the NRA.
2. No where in the Constitution does it assert that citizens have the right to firearms so they can turn them on the government. To those of you so idiotic as to assert your guns would stop a U.S. law enforcement agency, or the full weight of the Army or National Guard, you are worse than fools, and probably make the VERY BEST argument for keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally weak.
What will be "universal" about "universal background checks"? Other than legal and law abiding gun owners being checked that is.
The guy that breaks into your house to steal a gun will not submit to a background check.
The guy selling stolen guns out of his car in a back ally will not require a background check to his buyers.
The gang member planning his next drive by shooting will not care to submit to a background check when using a stolen gun.
Of course, then you have all of the mentally unstable people in the country right now that have a gun, and will not have to submit to another background check.
So, what you are left with is Jane and John Doe, whom are law abiding people looking to buy a gun for self defense or fun shooting having to undergo a background check.
I have to throw out an alibi here. I am all for mandatory background checks for selling/purchasing a gun. But, I also see that those that want to do harm, or break laws will never submit to such a thing. I am against any sort of registry of gun purchases. That can only lead to confiscation. The current NICS system is required to destroy all records of background checks within 24hrs. I also think that those that do submit to a background check, but are turned down because they lied on thier form should be punished.
If I buy a gun, does my wife too have to undergo a background check? I mean, she will be shooting it at the range, and may need to use it if our house gets broken into. Would a father giving his son his first .22lr rifle or 20ga shotgun be hampered because his son needs to have a background check done?
These are all questions that need to be answered and told to the public before a bill is voted on. There needs to be open discussion. No backroom deals. No ramming it through all sneaky like (OBAMACARE) with 51 votes or a simple majority.