April 9th, 2013
03:51 PM ET
1 year ago

Biden: Gun vote opponents in a 'time warp'

(CNN) – Republicans threatening a filibuster on new gun laws are woefully stuck in another era, Vice President Joe Biden told an audience of law enforcement officers Tuesday.

"I am so convinced that those folks who are trying to stop any action are in a time warp," he said, adding the issue of bolstering background checks on gun sales "has moved beyond where it was five, ten, even three years ago."

More than a dozen GOP lawmakers – including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell - have said they plan to block a vote on ramping up background checks in the Senate, though other Republicans say they oppose the attempts to stall the bill from proceeding.

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said a vote to open debate on tougher gun laws would come Thursday. It would require 60 votes to pass.

The mere optics of preventing a vote on new gun laws in the aftermath of a tragedy was "embarrassing," Biden asserted Tuesday,

"As of now, you got leading senators, the most august legislative body in the world, are saying we're not even going to talk about this? A tragedy that traumatized a nation and caught the attention of the entire world … and the climax of this tragedy could be we're not even going to get a vote? Imagine how this makes us look," Biden said.

"At the end of the day, I can't believe that it will actually happen, that they will follow the lead of the minority leader and the 13 or whatever the number of people is," he said later. "I know too many people on that side of the aisle. I just can't – I just don't believe they'll do this."

One proposal being considered would expand background checks to gun shows and internet sales, but would not require checks for any other private transactions, according to multiple sources from both parties who are familiar with the talks. That falls short of the universal background checks favored by Biden and President Barack Obama.

The powerful National Rifle Association is staunchly opposed to the bill, yet recent polls show an overwhelming majority of Americans favor making a change to the background check system.

"The public is so far beyond where the Congress is," Biden said Tuesday. "So far ahead of the way they're talking. They don't understand. They really don't understand."

The vice president charged the NRA with "engaging in a campaign which I am not unaccustomed to, of disinformation, to try to scare people," adding that claims the new laws would force sellers or the government to keep records on gun buyers were false.

"It doesn't violate anyone's Constitutional right," Biden said. "It doesn't have any impact on your Second Amendment right. It just doesn't do anything that's not already being done. Nothing. Not a thing."


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soundoff (19 Responses)
  1. Just Stating the Obvious

    Well it sure looks like the Democrats and lefties are coming unhinged as their far left anti-gun agenda falls flat on its face.

    April 9, 2013 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  2. ThinkAgain

    @Just Stating the Obvious: It's time to start calling like it is. The senators who are blocking this vote are cowards.

    Where is the "freedom" in blocking a vote of a bill that is before the Senate because of the direct will of the American people?

    If these Republicans are so concerned about freedom, then they should man up and allow this vote to happen so all Americans can see just who stands where on this very important issue.

    It is time to call out Republican obstructionists for what they are: shills for the gun industry, men who are too scared of the NRA to take a stand out of fear of being "primaried" and losing their job.

    Well you know what? I think the safety of Americans is more important than the jobs of those 13 obstructionist republican Senators.

    April 9, 2013 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  3. jonnyg

    Speaking of time warp...remember we already had an assault rifle ban years ago? Didn't work back then either... so what is so progressive about revisiting old failures?

    April 9, 2013 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  4. Davis

    And you, sir, are in some kind of control warp. Go back and harrass some women Joe! And get back to your shady deals in your home state!

    April 9, 2013 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  5. Ed1

    You are a time wrap.

    Enough said for our second in no command leadership.

    April 9, 2013 04:11 pm at 4:11 pm |
  6. rs

    miden,,,why don,t you secure the schools you ati-constintionalist....after the colorado shootings , you should have passed laws to provide at least a quard a each school, one entrance only....metal detector...but you do nothing...you stand there acting tough...what a joke

    April 9, 2013 04:13 pm at 4:13 pm |
  7. Greg Smith

    @jonnyg – The assault rifle ban is not a part of the proposed legislation. Please keep current. You're just making Biden look good with those types of comments.

    April 9, 2013 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  8. me

    because people believe in the constiution the vp feels he can attack them what a pitiful excuse for a vp he is

    April 9, 2013 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  9. sonny chapman

    We had an Assault Weapon Ban in this Country from 1994-2004. George W. lacked the political courage to push for a renewal. Between 1994-2004 there is not ONE Instance of anyone having guns confiscated, hunting opportunities being lost or home invasions from lack of firepower. We could live with this Govt. Tyranny back then for 10 years. WHAT HAS CHANGED ?

    April 9, 2013 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  10. The One

    And Biden knows what the people want? Coming from the man who gave sound advice of discharging a weapon in public to "scare off" an intruder. Great advice, only, it's illegal to do so in most states and would land the shooter in jail. Yup, he knows what the people want.

    April 9, 2013 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  11. WiredweirdinSF

    Oh Lord, please let this hair plugged ego mainiac run for president.

    April 9, 2013 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  12. LICK EM

    these ideas of gun control will do nothing to prevent another crime like sandy hook or columbine. why aren't obama and biden talking about school safety, like one entrance and security measures, why aren;t they talking about mentall health issues. i watch the world news everyday and not once have i heard anything about these issues. its all gun control gun control gun control. get a clue america

    April 9, 2013 04:44 pm at 4:44 pm |
  13. BlackThought

    No point debating with conservatives Biden. These people think evolution is a lie, how are you going to change their view on gun control if they aren't swayed by facts?

    April 9, 2013 04:47 pm at 4:47 pm |
  14. The Real Tom Paine

    -Guest

    Restrict our rights and you democrats will be working at Burger King in 2015.
    ****************
    We will still be your bosses. Keep wishing, though, if it makes you feel good.

    April 9, 2013 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  15. Kevin

    I usually like Biden – he seems like a fairly decent guy – but I can't get behind him on this one. Characterizing people who object to the current anti-gun proposals as simply deluded or out-of-touch is not only grossly unfair, it serves no purpose except to further polarize the issues.

    There are lots of reasons why people might not support the current proposals. The desire to preserve personal liberty. Fear against setting precedent for further regulation. The thought that even if you agree with the ends, the means will prove to be ineffective. There are many more and reasonable people can go back and forth on any of them, and you only need to feel strongly for ONE reason in order to say "no, let's not go ahead with this."

    April 9, 2013 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  16. DJ Reality

    Republicans on the hill are the pocket of gun manufacturers. Their fight has nothing to do with gun right but, to do with the perks they get from the manufacturers. Republicans in congress do not do anything without getting something in return. Hey we still have the best politicians money can buy and it bought the GOP...

    April 9, 2013 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  17. J.V.Hodgson

    Many states had no will to enforce the PREVIOUS ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. IT WAS ALSO NOT TIED TO EFFECTIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS !!
    Duh!! big surprise it failed not because it was bad law but :-
    a) The law was inadequately enforced and
    b) There remained severe leakage due to incomplete background checks.
    Get real NRA La pierre supporters and use you brains and not emotion. the obama bide ideas do not go against the 2nd amendment, no one is taking " reponsible gun owners" guns away. And give us a break of our government being able to attack us to become a dictatorship or socialist utopia.... its paranoia gone mad ( ha ha) with the checks and balances in our political system = gridlock in that environment how can Obama ( any other president) mobilise the armed forces to civil war without a 67% war vote in the Senate.
    Regards,
    Hodgson.

    April 9, 2013 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  18. Sniffit

    He's right. They want 1950's segregation laws back. They want 1950's control and oppression of women back. They want the entire New Deal and things like Roe v Wade never to have happened. They want Medicare and SS and Medicaid destroyed. They want labor laws and unions to go away like they never existed. They want to resurrect the civil war states' rights and nullifaction arguments. They want a woefully underregulated Wall Street like the 20's and 30's. And, they want their "cowboys and indians"...altho it's now "cowboys and muslims"...perception of the world to be the prevailing fantasy of every white male in Amurika. "I dont' care if it's not reality or it isn't correct and that science and historical record disprove it all...WE WERE HAPPIER THAT WAY!!!!" Indeed, one might argue that the entire GOP/Teatroll platform can be reduced to "ignorance is bliss, so let's make that our goal."

    April 9, 2013 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  19. Sniffit

    "Well it sure looks like the Democrats and lefties are coming unhinged as their far left anti-gun agenda falls flat on its face."

    Nothing's falling flat on its face. 90% of Americans want a universal background check system and other fixes. The GOP/Teatrolls are going to filibuster and use the cowards way out to avoid voting beacuse they know that 90% of Americans support these things and they don't want to be on record as actually voting against 90% of the public. They'd rather hide behind procedural tricks and cowardly rules manipulation than explain their position and defend it publicly. Why? Beacuse their position is "ankles behind the ears" for the gun manufacturers and retailers, that's why.

    BTW, an assault weapon ban isn't part of it anymore, so you can let that strawman go.

    April 9, 2013 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |