Reid to shelve gun bill
April 18th, 2013
01:45 PM ET
1 year ago

Reid to shelve gun bill

(CNN) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday he'll set aside proposed gun legislation without a final vote following the defeat a day earlier of major provisions sought by President Barack Obama and Democrats in the aftermath of the Newtown school massacre.

"(Obama) and I agreed that the best way to keep working towards passing a background check bill is to hit pause, and freeze the background check bill where it is," he said on the Senate floor. "This will allow senators to keep negotiating."

A Senate Democratic leadership aide said Reid can bring up the package of gun proposals again if circumstances change and he believes he has the votes for key provisions to pass, particularly a measure to expand background checks on gun buyers.

"We're gonna have time to work on what people want to do before we come back to this," Reid said, adding that this option allows them to return to the bill without returning to square one. "It will only be a matter of time."

"The stand of the Republicans is not sustainable," he said. "The question is how long they're going to stand firm–but it's not sustainable."

In a major defeat for supporters of tougher gun laws, the Senate on Wednesday defeated a compromise plan to expand background checks on firearms sales as well as a proposal to ban some semi-automatic firearms modeled after military assault weapons.


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  1. Randy W

    If the comments on any article related to gun legislation are even a little bit indicative of the level of public support for these measures, then there's no way it was at 90%. I don't know where they are getting that figure from
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    Go look at Mitch McConnell's Facebook page. If that is indicative of public sentiment then 90% is a low number.

    April 18, 2013 03:10 pm at 3:10 pm |
  2. Independent

    WOW how can so many of you be so clueless??? BACKGROUND CHECK ARE ALREADY IN PLACE!!!!!! They do not help to take away guns from criminals!!! I keep reading comment after comment about "how does back ground checks take away your guns", well guess what, that is already in place and NOT working. Strengthen the laws and regulations that are already in place, until then stop crying about not passing new bills!!! Do you realize that the bill DID ban some guns, so YES that is taking away some of the guns law abiding citizens can get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 18, 2013 03:11 pm at 3:11 pm |
  3. Northern Maine

    Gun skeptics run on emotion.....maybe they should start a campaign to make cars illegal....they kill more then guns do every year!

    April 18, 2013 03:11 pm at 3:11 pm |
  4. DoseOfReality

    Wow, Reid is not as mentally challenged as I thought he was

    April 18, 2013 03:11 pm at 3:11 pm |
  5. Peoples State of Illinois

    rs

    Where does that "90%" come from? I have been unable to find any poll that gives that number.
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    Google it. I found 7 articles in 3 minutes that show the range being from a low of 87% (among military vets), to more than 92%, from 5 different polls conducted in the last month- or less.
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    Now for the rest of the story. Google the poll results when the question of national gun registration is added. The numbers drop to less than half.

    April 18, 2013 03:12 pm at 3:12 pm |
  6. Rick

    How about background checks to vote? We can't even get voter ID in some states..

    "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government'.-Thomas Jefferson

    April 18, 2013 03:13 pm at 3:13 pm |
  7. Sniffit

    "McVeigh was blamed"

    Well, that would be because he was proven to have done it, dipsh-t. It's not like he denied it p to his last breath either. Heck, even called the children he killed "collateral damage" when he admitted it.

    "We know it is a false flag operation. We see the pictures. The government has been caught red-handed."

    Wow...tinfoil hats must be on sale this week.

    April 18, 2013 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  8. Emmanuel

    1. This legislation is not dead, it has been shelved so Reid can re-introduce it when there might be support at a later date. Meanwhile every single agenda leader in the nation goes on TV to say how it was defeated, knowing full well that it can now be resurrected at any time. This seems a little like manipulation of the public to me. On top of that they cite clearly wrong statistics about the support of the general population, the support of police officers, and how many guns are supposedly sold without background checks.

    2. How would these background checks have stopped any of the killings we have so sadly witnessed? Exactly none, so why is there a focus on background checks?

    3. Anyone who thinks the NRA are the bad guys with deep pockets need their heads examined:

    NRA represent 5 million Americans, sure they may also get money from the gun industry, but there are still 5 million Americans behind that, plus those Americans who own gun companies, plus those Americans working for said companies. Thats a lot of Americans.

    Isn't that better than those who financially support the politicians of the other side and their agenda? Namely individual billionaires like the crazy Mayor of NYC, Bloomberg? He represents exactly 1 American. Himself.

    So why exactly is the 5 million+ person lobby worse than the 1 person lobby?

    April 18, 2013 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  9. Link

    90% Public support... 90% Democratic support... 90% Republican disapproval... lol... The rest of the world shakes their heads in disbelief that such a progressive society can't figure this equation out... In the meantime we brace to witness the roll call of murders & massacres that could be prevented...

    I'd love to see the statistics of how many home invasions are thwarted b/c the property owner has a gun... I'm guessing it's not 13/14K...

    To claim that the potential intruder(s), may not consider trespassing b/c the owner "may" hold a firearm is rediculous as the death toll is a hard number...

    Fools.

    April 18, 2013 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  10. PopSmith

    I think this vote exposes what no else seems to be willing to ask. We have a President who just won re-election and has 90% of Americans supporting background checks. Seems simple to vote for this bill, right? I think the bigger issue is that Senators and Congressmen don't really like President Obama. I think deep down man of the top Democrats don't either. Harry Reid did not want this bill to pass, even though he voted for it. He knew there was enough votes against that his won't matter or hurt him among the NRA voters; after all the NRA backed him in his last run for Senator. No, I really think the issue is that these same Congressmen and Senators don't believe President Obama deserves to be President. So, they just refuse to support his causes. I don't think they have ever forgiven him for ramming healthcare through early in his first term. And under these conditions we have a President that will never get the bipartisan support that even George Bush was able to obtain. If you really think about it the sharp division that we see in Washington really escalated after President Obama became President. I may not want to admit it, but I think my President is ineffective in this climate. Oh sure, we can throw blame and try to make us feel better, but that isn’t going to solve anything. A leader makes these votes happen. I don’t think Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, or Bush II would have had an issue passing this legislation if they put their back into it. They just don’t like the President and have decided that he is not to succeed. Too late for elect another President.

    April 18, 2013 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  11. ghostriter

    A new Fox News poll finds the most popular measure continues to be universal background checks: A large 85-percent majority of voters favors requiring checks on all gun buyers, including at gun shows and private sales. That includes most Democrats (90 percent), Republicans (83 percent) and independents (82 percent), as well as most of those living in a gun-owner household (81 percent).

    There is also sizable public support for requiring mental health checks on gun buyers (72 percent) and background checks on ammunition purchases (70 percent).

    April 18, 2013 03:15 pm at 3:15 pm |
  12. MADINTEXAS

    Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that passing background checks, which already exist, will do absolutely nothing to prevent the massacres that the supporters are trying to eliminate. Another issue that just chaps my backside – if POTUS is so distraught over the misrepresentaion of the american people on the gun bill – where was this intensity when the american people were so grossly misrepresented when his health bill was passed.

    April 18, 2013 03:15 pm at 3:15 pm |
  13. EatThemUpYum

    What exactly is this background check supposed to accomplish? We already have background checks at gun shows and internet purchases. Don't believe me? Try it. Purchase a rifle or pistol from any dealer anywhere and they will do a background check. Further, you can't buy across state lines – that's a felony. So, lawful internet purchases made by law abiding citizens involve a transfer from a FEDERALLY LICENSED dealer in one state to a FEDERALLY LICENSED dealer in your home state. Then home state dealer does a background check on you and only then is the transaction final. YES, Reid and Obama are LYING TO US. But, nobody cares about the facts, just the fear and emotion right?

    April 18, 2013 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  14. Jana B

    Goes to show Dem or Rep they are all chicken S&%T of the NRA and the gun lobby!!! Every last one of them should be ashamed of themselves!!!

    April 18, 2013 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  15. California

    Harry Reid = Mr. Obstructionist.

    April 18, 2013 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  16. Truth

    Hey Reid,
    I can tell you and Obama where you can shelve that Bill.....

    April 18, 2013 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  17. EatThemUpYum

    PopSmith – show a credible poll that indicates 90% of Americans support background checks.

    April 18, 2013 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  18. ug

    You can't take my guns from me ovomit!

    April 18, 2013 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  19. Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

    Reid my lips...BAN GOPT/D in 2014!

    April 18, 2013 03:17 pm at 3:17 pm |
  20. Bob Goldson

    Those who voted against background check for gun ownership are cowards, cowards afraid of the NRA lobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 18, 2013 03:18 pm at 3:18 pm |
  21. Sambo

    "Nobody is taking away your guns, people!! How do background checks infringe on your 2nd amendment rights? They don't! Unless you listen to your gods at the NRA then it's all a freaking conspiracy"

    MAYBE if said checks were free, but they're not. You'd have to go through an FFL dealer who's going to charge you atleast 50$. How would you feel if you had to pay 50$ to vote, or exercise your freedom of speech. If you want a backgroun check just so I can loan a rifle to a friend to take to the range or hunting, you need to make it as easy as possible.

    Also, why do we need to report a guns serial # if not to set up a de facto registry? The current system doesn't require a serial #; either a person passes a check or not. That should suffice.

    Make it free, maybe online so that way we can do it instantly from home, and drop the serial number requirement and maybe we'll talk.

    April 18, 2013 03:18 pm at 3:18 pm |
  22. Guest

    Go away treasonous liberals, far away!

    April 18, 2013 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  23. Bob Goldson

    I said those who voted against background checks are cowards and afraid of the NRA Lobby and I will not moderate that opinion!!!

    April 18, 2013 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  24. RD1981

    rs stated:
    "One more time for the slower ones:
    Many things can cause death. Most of those things however, can perform other, useful tasks beneficial to mankind. Guns can only do 1 thing, and they have one purpose only-to kill."
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    Other useful tasks beneficial to mankind?
    You mean like culling of various animal herds to prevent over-population and mass starvation, or protecting invasive animals from damaging/destroying crops used to feed thousands of people?

    You mean things like getting scholarships for students that allow them to pay for college? (Yep...there is such a thing as a shooting scholarship. Look it up.)

    You mean things like participating in the Olympics?

    You mean things like helping prevent a violent crime from occurring? (Even conservative estimates from organizations like the National Crime Victimization Survey state that guns are used defensively an average of 100,000 times a year.)

    Get it now, rs?

    us-1776,
    Regarding your statement of "Government of the Lobbyist, By the Lobbyist and For the Lobbyist":

    You do realize that the Newtown family members who were in DC were LOBBYING for gun control, right? They are Lobbyists, too.

    April 18, 2013 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  25. Randall Norris

    This failed because Reid is such a pu**y. God he takes up air a real man could be breathing.

    April 18, 2013 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
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