Conservative Dem says Holder should think of quitting
June 7th, 2013
05:07 PM ET
1 year ago

Conservative Dem says Holder should think of quitting

(CNN) – Ongoing questions into Attorney General Eric Holder's handling of leak probes – and now his role in government phone surveillance – should lead him to at least consider resigning, Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia said Friday.

Manchin, a conservative Democrat often at odds with President Barack Obama's administration, said any government official who seems to be losing authority should make the same calculation.

"Whenever you feel that you have lost your effectiveness or may be losing your effectiveness to the detriment of the job that you do, you have to evaluate that and make a decision. And I think we're at the time now where decisions have to be made," Manchin said in an interview with Bloomberg.

Holder has come under fire from some Republicans, who say his Justice Department has been overly aggressive in its investigations of national security leaks. House Republicans have suggested Holder lied under oath during a hearing into government seizure of journalists' phone records last month.

The White House has consistently said Obama remains fully confident in Holder's ability to carry out his job, and earlier this week the attorney general told NBC News he has no intention of stepping down.

"There's some things that I want to do, some things I want to get done. I've discussed that with the president. And once I have finished that, I'll sit down with him and we'll determine when it's time to make a transition to a new attorney general," Holder said.

But on Friday, Manchin said that discussion should happen sooner rather than later.

"I just think that basically, in light of what is going on in the country, and everybody looking at it, it might be the most well intended person with the best of intentions, but if they're not being effective and they're not being received, how effective is it and how good is it for the – for the country?"

CNN's Kevin Liptak contributed to this report.


Filed under: Eric Holder • Joe Manchin
soundoff (28 Responses)
  1. just sayin

    holder and obama could care less about what is best for the country. it is all about politics and power. the fact that holder is widely seen as a liar and an incompetent (for very good reason) doesn't matter to obama. just like he could care less about the economy and jobs.

    June 7, 2013 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  2. Thomas

    Manchin must be under a lot of presser from the right.

    He is from Rush Limbp Land !

    June 7, 2013 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  3. smith

    Holder is a disgrace...maybe even worse than Janet Reno...remember "change" its time for some.

    June 7, 2013 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  4. Donna

    Republicans need to push all the other Democrat Senators from the red states on where they stand on Holder resigning. Time to hold their feet to the fire.

    June 7, 2013 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  5. Thomas

    @ust sayin
    holder and obama could care less about what is best for the country. it is all about politics and power. the fact that holder is widely seen as a liar and an incompetent (for very good reason) doesn't matter to obama. just like he could care less about the economy and jobs.

    =======

    US economy adds 175,000 jobs in May

    US employment rose by slightly more than economists had predicted during May, adding 175,000 jobs.

    just sayin !

    June 7, 2013 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  6. Hammerer

    No one is listening to your phone calls.

    June 7, 2013 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  7. Sniffit

    Step 1: Witch hunt on conspiracy theories.

    Step 2: Fail to prove conspiracy theories.

    Step 3: Claim perjury.

    Step 4: Fail to prove perjury.

    Step 5: Claim that target/victim of witch hunt has been made ineffective by witch hunt and so should resign anyway even though not proven to have done anything wrong.

    Any questions? That Manchin is a conservative Dem doesn't change this recipe the GOP consistently uses. It's 100% predictable that a conservative Dem or two will prove spineless enough to jump in at Step 5. That kind of failure to maintain solidarity is one of the biggest problems the Dems have in battling the lock-stepping GOP/Teatrolls.

    June 7, 2013 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  8. Brian from CO

    Manchin said "any government official who seems to be losing authority should make the same calculation" when talking about Holder resigning. That's interesting advise considering Manchin just had his bipartisan background check bill voted down?

    June 7, 2013 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  9. A Kickin` Donkey

    AG Holder is well qualified and has done his job very well.

    It is "BAD" for the country to allow baseless rumors, innuendo, and bombastic [untrue] opinion to impede any leader or executive of ANY organization.

    The tactics that the Obama critics are applying against Holder, Rice, Clinton, etc. are well known within corporate politics to try to get someone fired when they have been competent and effective in their duties. I`m sorry but I will fight tooth & nail against largely white, male aggressors that try to marginalize women & minority executives that they don`t like or don`t agree with. We`ve all seen how these "clicks"operate in general and the attacks on Holder can not be allowed to succeed for this reason. That`s what would be bad for America.

    If the GOP wanted the possibility of "getting Holder", they shouldn`t have manufactured false contraversies to get him.

    June 7, 2013 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  10. just sayin

    Thomas
    US economy adds 175,000 jobs in May
    US employment rose by slightly more than economists had predicted during May, adding 175,000 jobs.
    -–

    our economy needs to add at least 200,000 a month just to stay even. many many more to recover. obama failure.
    unemployment rose to 7.6% and has been well over 7% now every month obama has been in office. obama failure.
    lowest labor participation rate in over 30 years. obama failure.

    just sayin !

    June 7, 2013 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  11. truth hurts but reality bites

    Obama (and all his scandals) as well as Holder (and all his scandels) are going to be a very big anchor around the neck of every Democrat running for office in 2014. Please, please do keep Holder in office as long as possible. At this point he is the poster child for incompetence and lying.

    June 7, 2013 06:04 pm at 6:04 pm |
  12. Gurgyl

    Why?? Is this POLITICS?? Nonsense. He did NOTHING wrong. These idiots are so pathetic. Just get rid off all these thugs in 2014. Period.

    June 7, 2013 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  13. tominma

    ALL of these "scandals" led nowhere! The hearing were such a joke that nobody outside of the right wing paid much attention. That's because most of the country KNOWS that this is just another partisan attack on the President who just finished kicking their asses in the 2012 election. All the while, America is watching and they don't much like what they see from these Republicans who place political victory over the welfare of their country! I mean, who EVER heard of a political party ban abandoning their country at the height of the greatest economic crisis since 1929?? Smacks of treason!

    June 7, 2013 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  14. Debbie

    LOL From the guy who lost authority on his bipartisan background check.

    June 7, 2013 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  15. Bob

    smith

    Holder is a disgrace
    ----------------------------

    Takes a lot of rank hypocrisy to say that after bushes mouthpiece Gonzalez.

    June 7, 2013 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  16. Anthony in California

    Thomas
    @ust sayin
    holder and obama could care less about what is best for the country. it is all about politics and power. the fact that holder is widely seen as a liar and an incompetent (for very good reason) doesn't matter to obama. just like he could care less about the economy and jobs.

    =======

    US economy adds 175,000 jobs in May

    US employment rose by slightly more than economists had predicted during May, adding 175,000 jobs.

    just sayin !

    ---------

    Reality is like water on wicked witches to these Republicans......

    June 7, 2013 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  17. OKfine

    I just think that basically, in light of what is going on in the country, and everybody looking at it, it might be the most well intended person with the best of intentions, but if they're not being effective and they're not being received, how effective is it and how good is it for the – for the country?"
    -----

    If that's the criteria for keeping one's job, then the Republicans in Congress will all be submitting their resignations soon?

    June 7, 2013 06:47 pm at 6:47 pm |
  18. texasnotea

    I think Joe Manchin should consider resigning if he can't fully support the President of the United States against these false allegations made by witch hunting republicans.

    June 7, 2013 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  19. Marcus

    The idea he proposes sounds fine, right?
    'In the name of the greater good...' (The governability of President Obama or his political dreams?)
    'Nothing was proven but still...' (we live in a world were all is needed to end a political career or a government one is but a smear well repeated until it sticks)
    'He should resign.' (He MUST resign, specially after these words of mine... so I can score some more points with my voters!)
    Right...

    June 7, 2013 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
  20. Borderless

    @ Joe Manchin

    Agreed.

    June 7, 2013 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  21. Evergreen

    Bush gave "heck of a job Brownie" a medal after his disatorius handling of Katrina. Bush also awarded Brenner a medal after his dissolving the Iraqi army which resulted in collapse of Iraq security. That is what incompetence look like. This Admin does not even come close to that.

    June 7, 2013 07:50 pm at 7:50 pm |
  22. common sense

    Holder is obviously lying. Anyone with a mentality of a six year old or better, which leaves out the obvious liberal idiots on this board. Holder's bet is to be rewarded by Democrats with some cushy job down the road. The scandals continue to pile up. One is easy to ignore, perhaps two even. However, the evidence has piled up so high that it's impossible to trust him anymore. Now, I can't blame Obama for the actions of a single person, however it has become clear that this type of behavior is the norm within the administration. As President, isn't Obama ultimately responsible for the behavior of his administration? At some point doesn't he need to be held responsible for those actions? Now, we have liberals defending the Patriot Act, when in reality Obama has abused and grossly overreached the law by surveying millions of Americans. Even my Democrat friends believe this is plainly illegal!

    June 7, 2013 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  23. RJ

    Holder shouldn't resign. He should be arrested

    June 7, 2013 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  24. Marie MD

    How many of the shrub #43 people were asked to quit? Starting with the village idiot and ending with his "rice"

    June 7, 2013 09:20 pm at 9:20 pm |
  25. Bill from GA

    "Whenever you feel that you have lost your effectiveness or may be losing your effectiveness to the detriment of the job that you do, you have to evaluate that and make a decision."

    So what kind of precedent does this set for the future of the USA?? Elections don't matter; elected leaders' choices don't matter; leaders in government should think of their job as just another mindless 'reality' show: Holder, You've been voted off the Island!!

    And I thought Georgia's Republican Senators were lame. But I guess that GUTLESS Manchin is just trying to keep his job. The real blame (disregarding his GUTLESSNESS) should go to the Right Wing Propaganda Network for making it so hard for elected officials to be reasonable in doing their job, and still keep their job.

    June 8, 2013 01:39 am at 1:39 am |
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