Breaking: Farm bill defeated in House
June 20th, 2013
02:42 PM ET
1 year ago

Breaking: Farm bill defeated in House

(CNN) – In an unexpected defeat, the House rejected a major farm bill Thursday, with both Democrats and Republicans voting against the measure.

Among the reasons for the bill's failure–House conservatives said the measure cost too much and Democrats opposed new work requirements for food stamp recipients.


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  1. tom l.

    "Democrats opposed new work requirements for food stamp recipients"

    Why? Do people understand that if you give a person a fish they eat for a day but if you teach a person to fish they eat for a lifetime? Why would we want more people reliant on the govt?

    June 20, 2013 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  2. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    Great defeat.

    June 20, 2013 02:51 pm at 2:51 pm |
  3. Rudy NYC

    tom l.

    "Democrats opposed new work requirements for food stamp recipients"

    Why? Do people understand that if you give a person a fish they eat for a day but if you teach a person to fish they eat for a lifetime? Why would we want more people reliant on the govt?
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    Is that why conservatives want to abolish the Dep't of Education? Why do they want to systematically dismantle our public school systems by replacing them with private charter schools?

    Your wisdom would be more credible if the right wing proposals actually provided the education that you speak of. They cut it.

    June 20, 2013 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  4. Mikey

    @ tom l. – You are not teaching someone to fish by making a single mother work a minimum wage job that doesn't even cover the cost of child care created by the work requirement. Most people on food stamps do have jobs, including military families and people working at places like WalMart, who encourage them to suppliment the low wages paid with food stamps.

    We do not want more people reiant on the government, but we do have to make laws that recognize economic reality.

    June 20, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  5. Sniffit

    Bwahahahaha!!! Teatroll fail!!!! I guess the "starvation agenda" isn't as popular as they hoped.

    Get it through your think skulls, GOPers/Teatrolls: YOU NEED DEM VOTES.

    June 20, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  6. Steveo

    @What if

    What if the GOP makes all the poor people work for farmers for free. Then the farmers can feed them, house them, sell them......oops I think we've come full circle. Right GOP?
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    Did you happen to miss the part of the story that said DEMOCRATS also voted against this?

    June 20, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  7. NC

    Work requirements for food stamps. The majority that get food stamps are the working poor $7.25 an hour does not pay the bills.

    June 20, 2013 03:34 pm at 3:34 pm |
  8. GreedyU$A

    Hey Tom....many of those receiving food stamps DO work, their greedy employers dont pay them enough to survive!! Do you know how many military families receive food stamps? Aw heck let the soldiers' kids go hungry...who cares.

    June 20, 2013 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  9. The Real Tom Paine

    -tom l.

    "Democrats opposed new work requirements for food stamp recipients"

    Why? Do people understand that if you give a person a fish they eat for a day but if you teach a person to fish they eat for a lifetime? Why would we want more people reliant on the govt?
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    Look at the reasons why the programs were brought into existance in the first place. In the late 1920's, the Hoover administration conducted studies that revealed a full third of our population was at the poverty level, and that it was a permanant condition. This was PRIOR to the Depression. Programs like Social Security and others were brought about to provide people with some means to survive, and it was something the working people payed into their entire working lives. When you draw on unemployment, you've contributed to it through your taxes, same for Social Security and everything else. To deny people access to something they have paid into is plain wrong. Is there abuse of the system? Of course there is, the same as there is abuse of any system, but that's a reflection of human nature, not a failure of the system that was set up. Welfare should never be viewed as a lifestyle, but, in the absence of the business community stepping up and offering employment in those area, would it really be better to let people starve based upon some Ayn Rand -inspired view of the world that works fine when you're sitting pretty?

    June 20, 2013 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  10. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    Why would we want more people reliant on the govt?
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    There are members of the military on food stamps. The very people who protect YOUR freedom, you say let them starve? Have you no honor?

    June 20, 2013 03:42 pm at 3:42 pm |
  11. Al-NY,NY

    NC

    Work requirements for food stamps. The majority that get food stamps are the working poor $7.25 an hour does not pay the bills.
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    how can you say that? Didn't you know that people on food stamps (according to the GOP) are: jobless layabouts....moochers.....do nothings.....leeches? They don't know that minimum wage folks might need help to feed themselves and their families. Since a large portion of people who do get assistance come from their own "taker states" despite themselves all the GOP has to mention is "gunz, gayz, and god" and they can count on the herd to approve their miserly ideals.

    June 20, 2013 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  12. demogoat

    Boehner won't be able to get any legislation passed that will make it all the way to the president during the entire 113th congress. Looks like our "do nothing" congress will achieve new levels of poor performance.

    June 20, 2013 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  13. Steveo

    @Sniffit

    Bwahahahaha!!! Teatroll fail!!!! I guess the "starvation agenda" isn't as popular as they hoped.

    Get it through your think skulls, GOPers/Teatrolls: YOU NEED DEM VOTES.
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    In fairness, the opposite is true, The last time I checked YOU don't have 60 votes in the Senate!

    June 20, 2013 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  14. Rudy NYC

    Just wait until the GOTP realizes that they will be cutting off thousands of military families living on and near military bases around the country. It will affect single men and women returning home from active duty, waiting to get sent back out again.

    Watch the GOTP scramble to put in some sort of exemption for the military.

    June 20, 2013 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  15. Sniffit

    "Did you happen to miss the part of the story that said DEMOCRATS also voted against this?"

    Did you miss the part where Dems voted against this because the GOP/Teatrolls tried to use the farm bill's reauthorization as an excuse to cut billions from the SNAP program, which would have resulted in approximately 2M people not receiving assistance that they desperately need? People with children to feed? People who were receiving food stamps in rural red state areas and who might vote against some of the 62 GOPers/Teatrolls who ALSO voted against this? Fact: GOP/Teatroll leadership does NOT have its act together and is flailing about with their ideological wet noodle in hopes that here or there they can score some political points to keep their base riled up to vote in 2014.

    June 20, 2013 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
  16. Steveo

    @What if

    Sure Stevo – The democrats only voted against it because of the foolishness of the GOP wanting the poor people to work for food stamps when most already do work. Did you miss THAT part?
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    If I remember correctly even CLINTON did not have problem with the work provision! What happened?

    June 20, 2013 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  17. yeah right

    Why would we want more people reliant on the govt?
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    What do we do, let them starve?

    According USDA statistics, in 2011, 47% of SNAP recipients were under the age of 18. 8% were over the age of 60. Let those children and old folks get a job.

    41% live in a household with an income. You know, the Walmart employees. The working poor.

    The average household received a monthly benefit of $287 dollars. Try feeding a family on that for a month, much less the steak and chamgage that we hear all the stories about.

    36% of recipients are white, 22% African American and 10% Hispanic.

    CNN's story does not state that the Dems also voted against this because of the $20 billion in cuts to the program as well as the amendment that would have allowed states to drug test food stamp reicipents.

    June 20, 2013 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  18. Steveo

    Fact: GOP/Teatroll leadership does NOT have its act together and is flailing about with their ideological wet noodle in hopes that here or there they can score some political points to keep their base riled up to vote in 2014.
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    BOTH parties are about scoring pollitical points! Don't kid yourself! Your "FACT" sounds a whole lot like "OPINION".

    June 20, 2013 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
  19. Rudy NYC

    Steveo wrote:

    In fairness, the opposite is true, The last time I checked YOU don't have 60 votes in the Senate!
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    What are YOU talking about? WE are talking about getting enough votes to pass in the House, Steveo.

    June 20, 2013 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  20. Kevin1

    Steveo: The work provision is still in place. It is in place for WELFARE, which pay for people housing and other expenses. The Food Stamp dept is a whole separate beast in itself. They were broken up in the 90's when Congress in its infinite wisdom decided to break them up.

    So Steveo, Once again you don't have your fact straight, which you never do.

    Oh yeah, one more thing for you. More REPUBLICAN controlled states get food stamps than DEMOCRACT states.
    Why do we DEMS put in more to this country and you GREED REPS keep begging for more. HAVE YOU HEARD OF GETTING A JOB, AND TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES.

    June 20, 2013 04:07 pm at 4:07 pm |
  21. Steveo

    Rudy NYC

    Steveo wrote:

    In fairness, the opposite is true, The last time I checked YOU don't have 60 votes in the Senate!
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    What are YOU talking about? WE are talking about getting enough votes to pass in the House, Steveo.
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    Is the same true about the Senate or not?

    June 20, 2013 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  22. Malory Archer

    Mikey

    Most people on food stamps do have jobs, including military families and people working at places like WalMart, who encourage them to suppliment the low wages paid with food stamps.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Walmart not only ENCOURAGES employees to use food stamps, they provide the forms and instructions on how to fill them out.

    June 20, 2013 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  23. Steveo

    Kevin1
    GREED REPS keep begging for more. HAVE YOU HEARD OF GETTING A JOB, AND TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES.
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    Are you kidding me right now? YOU are hollering about the Dems defeating this bill because of a work provision and now you are blowing wind.. to use your words:

    "HAVE YOU HEARD OF GETTING A JOB, AND TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES"

    Perhaps you need to take that "wisdom" to DC!

    June 20, 2013 04:21 pm at 4:21 pm |
  24. Malory Archer

    Steveo

    @Sniffit

    Bwahahahaha!!! Teatroll fail!!!! I guess the "starvation agenda" isn't as popular as they hoped.

    Get it through your think skulls, GOPers/Teatrolls: YOU NEED DEM VOTES.
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    In fairness, the opposite is true, The last time I checked YOU don't have 60 votes in the Senate!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    HOWEVER, the DEMS aren't trying to pass this disgusting bill, but without a doubt the rethugs would be lining up to lambaste them if they were.

    June 20, 2013 04:22 pm at 4:22 pm |
  25. Rudy NYC

    Steveo wrote:

    In fairness, the opposite is true, The last time I checked YOU don't have 60 votes in the Senate!
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    What are YOU talking about? WE are talking about getting enough votes to pass in the House, Steveo.
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    Is the same true about the Senate or not?
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    You haven't checked. A farm bill has enough support to pass in the Senate. The problem is the Clown House.

    June 20, 2013 04:23 pm at 4:23 pm |
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