June 22nd, 2013
10:04 AM ET
1 year ago

Farm failure bill portends problems for immigration in the House

Washington (CNN) – Momentum in the Senate may be building for passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill after a border security deal was announced this week, but House GOP opposition to immigration legislation remains the biggest roadblock to a bill getting to the president's desk, and that opposition only appears to be hardening.

The messy demise of the farm bill on the House floor on Thursday demonstrated the divisions within GOP ranks and the willingness of dozens of rank-and-file members to ignore their leadership. While there's not a clear parallel between that bill's failure and the road ahead for immigration reform, the episode does underline the exceedingly tough task House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, faces as he attempts to guide immigration legislation through the House.

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  1. Zerubbabel

    What amazes me is that the repubs blame the dems for the failvre when in all actuality, they could not control their own caucus. If the dems did provide the 16 additional votes, the bill still would have been defeated. Nancy Pelosi passed a farm bill with only 19 repub votes. Boehner is an ineffective speaker. That is why all major legislation initiates in the Senate. All the house can pass is bans on abortion and repeal of the PPACA. It is time for a change, vote the repubs out.

    June 22, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  2. luke,az

    The republican party is beginning to implode. The moderates need to take back their party. Extremists like Ted Cruz are making the republican party increasingly irrelevant.

    June 22, 2013 11:04 am at 11:04 am |
  3. Donkey Party

    The GOP wasn't serious, isn't serious, nor will they ever be serious about immigration reform, just like they were never serious about any Hispanic outreach.

    June 22, 2013 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  4. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Humm,
    The Farm Bill may just help illegals be paid for the work. Illegals many who are paid under the table, keep citizens out of work. Less money for the big spending liberals. Obama want to skin the so called rich to fund the Nanny State. But, with the illegals not paying any taxes the real tax payers are funding (not) all the big programs now in place, by liberal's and democrats. Don't you just love it. Obama Care is already killing jobs and with 11 to 30 million getting citizenship and being allowed to get on the public dole where do you think you are going to end up. Better listen to the conservatives and republicians, if you want to have a decent living. By keeping the liberal's, now called progressives in charge, a return to the 1930's isn't far behind.

    June 22, 2013 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  5. Zerubbabel

    @raye

    The 1930's/Great Depression, occurred under the Hoover administration, a republican, just as the Great Recession occurred under the Bush administration, a republican. It took democratic presidents, Roosevelt/Obama to get us out of the republican created fiascos.

    June 22, 2013 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  6. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Aw, Humm,
    Zerubbabel,
    The Liberal's Democrats were in charge of the Congress for 40 years. By that time if everything wasn't fixed, what happened? Why, my friend, are nearly 50 Million on Food Stamps? Why, my friend, do we have a nearly 17 Trillion Dollar Federal debt? The problem with Progressives (Liberal's) are they want to do great things, they just want to do it with other people's money. After the 1929 Stock Market Crash, there were Government Programs, put in place to keep another Great Depression from happening. I think everybody, except the conservatives, expected the program to run it'self. Kind of like your Annointed Leader, who votes present most of the time and also leads from behind. The Rich ain't stupid. They just move their money off shore so the Libaral's can't steal is. So that leaves one thing, if you want to make it, you will have to do it yourself. Savvy?

    June 22, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  7. Hammerer

    Obama's boys rammed through obamacare in his first term. A disaster!
    For his second term he wants obama amnesty, another disaster waiting to happen.

    June 22, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  8. anonymous

    Zerubbabel
    @raye
    The 1930's/Great Depression, occurred under the Hoover administration, a republican, just as the Great Recession occurred under the Bush administration, a republican. It took democratic presidents, Roosevelt/Obama to get us out of the republican created fiascos.
    ----

    Happening to be in office and actually causing something are too different things. If bad legislation is passed and it takes years or decades to go bad and explode, is it really the person's fault that was in office at the time? Of course not.

    Bush had warned repeatedly that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's practices were dangerous. But they continued to back high risk mortgage loans to people with no visible means to re-pay them. These organizations were the darlings of the Democrat's and protected by them, especially Barney Frank. Frank repeatedly stated there was no problem. The Democrat's saw all of these houses going to people of low or no means and bragged they were helping the low and middle class when all they were doing was building a bigger and bigger time bomb.

    Keep electing Democrats and all you will ever get is massive failed programs that are financially unsustainable. They are always sold as one thing and turn out to be another, just like Obamacare. Great for all the people that will be getting free government healthcare but everybody else healthcare will suffer along with their pocketbook. Many people will see their hours reduced to eliminate the need to provide healthcare coverage. The nightmare has already begun and will only get exponentially worse with time.

    June 22, 2013 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  9. Randy, San Francisco

    Speaker Boehner will blink at the very last minute and beg Minority Leader Pelosi for Democratic votes to pass immigration reform. He will go down in history as the most ineffective House Speaker because of a disloyal leadership team and uncooperative Tea Partiers and conservative purists.

    June 22, 2013 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  10. Ron L

    Anyone who see's this as a LIBERAL agenda is missing the point. The FARM BILL that was presented was a embarrassment. Just think of it in these terms, you want to cut 20 billion dollars out of the program that feeds the poor because it is to expensive, but you want to continue to give wealthy individuals money NOT TO GROW crops!! It just does not make sense and just is not fair. Many of you who are hostile to the poor have this idea most of them are lazy. They are not, many have part time jobs because no one will hire them for full time work. I KNOW, I spent 2 years with Target and no matter how hard I tried they would NEVER let me work more than 24 hours a week for two weeks in a row. That is at $1.00 more than the minimum wage and without the food assistance program I would have been in deep, deep, trouble. This lasted for over 6 months, in addition to the 12 previous months in which NO ONE would hire me because I was over qualified. Over 75% of the other employees there were in the same situation and over half had to work two jobs to come close to making ends meet. I to eventually found a second job. My point is until you go and work at that level, you have NO IDEA how tough it is.

    June 22, 2013 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  11. Just a thought

    Ray E. (Georgia)

    Humm,
    The Farm Bill may just help illegals be paid for the work. Illegals many who are paid under the table, keep citizens out of work. Less money for the big spending liberals. Obama want to skin the so called rich to fund the Nanny State. But, with the illegals not paying any taxes the real tax payers are funding (not) all the big programs now in place, by liberal's and democrats. Don't you just love it. Obama Care is already killing jobs and with 11 to 30 million getting citizenship and being allowed to get on the public dole where do you think you are going to end up. Better listen to the conservatives and republicians, if you want to have a decent living. By keeping the liberal's, now called progressives in charge, a return to the 1930's isn't far behind.

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    Really Ray? Does anyone take your foolishness seriously without being totally dead from the neck up? I kinda doubt it. I know you throw out your usual Faux news foolishness without any facts but How about responding for once......Obama takes office and we are losing 700 k jobs per month. Since 2010 we've been adding jobs. In fact, we have recovered all that we've lost since then and added a few, all WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM THE clown party called the GOP Tea disaster. So tell me how do you come to your conclusion above? Oh, Faux news talking points again – HUH? sigh, don't ever shock us by speaking facts and truth, we wouldn't recognize you

    June 22, 2013 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  12. Just a thought

    Is this not proof positive the GOP/Tea Tards are incapble of smart / informed decisions and thus governing?

    June 22, 2013 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  13. Just a thought

    Do we need more proof the GOP/Tea Tards are the party of clowns?

    June 22, 2013 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  14. Just a thought

    Where are the usual suspects supporting these fools? This is what the GOP/Tea Tards call governing??? They can't even pass a Farms Bill? Really?

    June 22, 2013 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  15. Just a thought

    Ok, can any person defend the obvious over-kill, over-spending by the GOP/Tea Tards? We are talking a border agent every 250 feet with added fencing and surveillance drones. All this to secure a border where there is net zero immigration for the first time(?) Are we now trying to keep out mexican flies?

    June 22, 2013 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  16. Gurgyl

    GOP is doomed. These idiots want illegals for their vote and cheap labor. Too many India guys are coming to rob benefits–watch out. Nation in mess.

    June 22, 2013 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  17. reigal

    I was a republican voter untill yerstaday,i was listening a republican talk show on my radio and i said to myself this is not me, way too much hate inside these people hearts.

    June 22, 2013 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
  18. rs

    C'mon people. Did anyone actually believe the GOP would pass Immigration reform? It was NEVER their intention, and this horrible excuse making on their part is their current "justification".
    The Farm Bill shouldn't have been a surprise either. Now that the GOP stands for nothing, even bi-partisan bills are fair game for their inactivity.
    It is as if everything the public wants: Gun Control; jobs bills; a fix for their stupid Sequester bill; Health care and so on is a dog whistle for the GOP to pass birth control and abortion laws. The GOP is very, very lost.

    June 22, 2013 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  19. Marie MD

    BOOM! There's goes the rethug party and tea trolls who have taken over.
    The Cuban anchor baby/water boy was booed while Canadian born cross, the flake from MN, that gormet guy from TX were lauded in DC just last week.
    The rethugs can't even vote for legislation they introduce. Didn't lite paul and that other old man from KY filibuster their own bills? WOW!

    June 23, 2013 10:07 am at 10:07 am |