With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”


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  1. Ben in SoCal

    Steven,

    Zero population growth, really? What an absurd claim. The United States population has been unsustainably boming since 2000, thanks largely to harmful mass immigration; we've soared from 300 million to 314 million in a very short period of time. THAT is not healthy. At current growth rates, we have to ATTEMPT to create 250,000 jobs consistently for a decade or more to guarantee enough people jobs. We allow well over 1 million new applicants yearly, and don't forget about the untold millions who are here contrary to our laws.

    It is time to put unemployed American citizens first! Say no to mass immigration and amnesty.

    June 23, 2013 07:49 pm at 7:49 pm |
  2. Ben in SoCal

    This debate goes to show that Big Business Republicans and Left-Wing Democrats hate the American worker and will use any form of intellectual and social intimidation to pass this ghastly measure. True American patriots, regardless of party, MUST stand up against this illegal monstrosity.

    June 23, 2013 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  3. northerstar

    Why does this 1st year (or 2nd at the most) Senator get so much attention and why does anyone think he has the answers to anything. Let him prove himself as a Statesman before giving him so much publicity. He is constantly getting attention. So far I am not impressed by his noise. Some are even talking about him making a run for President in 2016. Based on WHAT??

    June 23, 2013 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  4. Soy

    I don't think the vast majority of Americans have anything against legal immigration; legal immigration is what made the country great. The problem is legal immigration is such a long, strenuous process that incentivizes illegal immigration. When there is work desired, those desiring work will go for it. I think the senator is correct about making his decision contingent upon border security that is actually accountable, but I hope there are steps in the future that make it easier for qualified workers to come into the U.S. for the benefit of those workers, the employers and the consumers.

    June 23, 2013 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  5. franco aventine

    Rand is right....again.

    June 23, 2013 07:57 pm at 7:57 pm |
  6. Robert Morales

    I think that illegal immigration should operate under the law in a way similar to adverse possession. Both situations are very similar in my opinion...

    June 23, 2013 07:57 pm at 7:57 pm |
  7. Ben Franklin

    I would expect no less in the comment section of this "news" agency. Easily one of the stupidest gatherings of blithering idiots I've had the displeasure of encoutering. No wonder this country is doomed.

    June 23, 2013 07:57 pm at 7:57 pm |
  8. nytw

    Rand Paul is a hard left liberal supporter of Obama, the ACLU, and the NSA.

    June 23, 2013 08:01 pm at 8:01 pm |
  9. pam parlin

    We are not against LEGAL IMMIGRATION, illegal immigrants don't pay their way in the system, but seem to get many handouts.As a legal immigrant 55yrs ago I find it obscene that these people should demand rights they have not earned , illegal is just that , they have no rights as far as I can see, let them go back where they came from and apply to enter this country the legal way.!!!!

    June 23, 2013 08:02 pm at 8:02 pm |
  10. Anonymous

    I am die hard repulican conservative but Sad to say some politicians trying to play politics with the issue that affect real people, that can changes people lives and contribute to the community and our economy. The border is to vast to solve but with the corker and hoven amendment it will definitely secure and militarized the south border. Sen Rand Paul what I thought before he have the heart for those people here who've been here for a long period of time without papers all they want is to have a better life, some paying taxes already. Never ask any government welfare, did not commit crime etc. wake

    June 23, 2013 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
  11. T. liberty

    It's about time we put up a fence to stop the illegal entry into our country...How stupid would anyone be to support this perilous bill. I noticed we got some Chris Mathews fans commenting that Rand Paul should support this bill. Guess you libs are sticking to the white house teleprompter talking points. Your doing a great job endorsing policies that will completely turn America into a tyrannical disaster...

    June 23, 2013 08:07 pm at 8:07 pm |
  12. Nicole

    If he supported it I'd be worried............NO ONE should support ILLEGAL immigration! Its wrecking America!

    June 23, 2013 08:14 pm at 8:14 pm |
  13. Noly

    How about 70% of hispanic, 90% black american and 80% asian wont support/vote for you in 2016 Presidential election? Sounds fair????

    June 23, 2013 08:14 pm at 8:14 pm |
  14. Rick McDaniel

    Good for Sen. Paul. No more "take my word for it", is an essential aspect of getting a handle on illegal immigration.

    June 23, 2013 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  15. patinga4

    Steven – You are extremely confused... Nothing you said had any truth in it.
    Those gas stations and motels are owned by Hindu/Arab immigrants. They have special tax exemptions for those businesses. The only people they hire are their family.
    The illegal immigrants pay no taxes they can avoid and get much support from the American taxpayer.
    When our parents and Grandparents came to this country, they did so LEGALLY with cost and much process.
    This Country is FULL already! Haven't you noticed our crowded cities and roads lately?

    June 23, 2013 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  16. david

    Rand stands with me once again.

    June 23, 2013 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  17. Reality Check

    The vast majority of people who oppose this bill are the same ones who complain when their neighbor can't bring in their spouse even though they are such "good people." It is clear this country needs workers and younger people or we'll become the French, older and desperate for "foreigners" to take care of their seniors (which will be you and me soon!). Quit hating on anyone who comes in; as a country we used to hate on the Irish (Germans/Chinese/Italians/Africans), etc.

    The Do-Nothing Congress is the last power we should have determining effectiveness of border security.

    June 23, 2013 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  18. DocHollywood

    Oh, what a surprise. Rand Paul not supporting something because it doesn't include what HE wants. Funny how these tea party guys will spend millions on a fence that will not stop someone from entering the US if they really want to, but they won't spend money on education or health care. No wonder this GOP is going extinct.

    June 23, 2013 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  19. laurel

    I am glad to hear him say don't trust either the Republicans (establishment types) or the Democrats to work for anything except their global agenda that helps their big corporate backers and doesn't nothing but hurt the little guy here at home. I'm all for capitalism – what we have now isn't even close to capitalism......it's crony-ism.

    June 23, 2013 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  20. TKA

    What has this nation turned into? A nation of laws that are selectively enforced depending on what side of the isle you're on and what's popular with the people. How many have gone to jail for the same thing others have walked from? How many Constitutional rights have been ignored by our Government that has cost the people freedom? The law is not equal, the law is administered as seen fit by our authorities. Federal law is broken every time a person from any country enters the U.S. without proper authorization. They become criminals at one of the highest rates because we have no idea who they are or why they are here. We have spend billions and billions of taxpayer dollars creating an immigration system that is supposed to be fair to all foreigners wishing to seek citizenship in our Country. Mexico is going to be a long standing burden upon the U.S. due to the facts its Government is severely corrupt, the people come here in need and not want and the U.S. is struggling with its own financial issues. The Democrats by contract have proven that their interest in amnesty is increasing their minority voting block. This is political tyranny and the very least and the danger of allowing this bill to go through has ramifications none of us can even understand. An immigration system that has quotas based on the stability of the U.S. financial system need to be looked at in addition to peoples of other countries that wish to immigrate to the U.S. that have more to offer other than need. Let's think about our Country for once and make decisions based on what's best for it as opposed to making political allies that do nothing but damage to our Country.

    June 23, 2013 08:28 pm at 8:28 pm |
  21. Dave

    It doesn't matter he thinks or does. He represents a small radical segment of the population that haven't excepted that the country is changing and will never be what it was. He and his will just be run over by this change!

    June 23, 2013 08:30 pm at 8:30 pm |
  22. Daniel Mesohoni

    He wants Congress to agree on whether the border is secure? Where has this guy been? Our Congress isn't fit for animal consumption.

    June 23, 2013 08:33 pm at 8:33 pm |
  23. ali

    Rand Paul is absolutely right. Thank you, Rand, for demanding the People of the US participate in running the country and make the decisions in our best interest – like requiring verifiable border security and enforcement before the bureaucrats leave the barn door wide open again and wonder how we ended up with millions of people who simply ignore the law. I certainly don't trust either party or the administration to do their job. Enough of the lies, manipulations, pandering and 'trust us' rhetoric. Do your dam jobs per the law and uphold our interests first and foremost.

    June 23, 2013 08:33 pm at 8:33 pm |
  24. Justin

    Big shocker here... he was going to vote NO regardless of the ammendments. He is grandstanding to lock in his far right/Tea Party support for his presidential bid.... Funny thing is, far enough to the right for that crowd to secure the GOP nomination is too far to the right for the moderate/independant votes he would need to win in the general election.

    Last two election cycles are proof of that... tack hard right to win the nomination then try to limp center for the win doesnt work.

    June 23, 2013 08:33 pm at 8:33 pm |
  25. Shane

    To Steven:

    Clearly you are not very smart or just not thinking clearly. What we don't need is a bunch of illegal immigrants coming to this country and taking jobs from people who are here legally. The number of businesses near you that are immigrant owned is of no matter in this debate, that same number could be owned by legal immigrants just as easily. No rational person is saying we don't want or shouldn't have immigrants in this country – this country is an amalgamation of immigrants – all we are saying is make sure they come here legally and go through the process to become citizens like your grandparents and parents probably did – or should have done.

    I'd rather have legal citizens working all those jobs near your house, spending money within the community, paying taxes, etc. than have them be illegal and sending some of that money they earn out of the country – and our economy – back to family members who live outside our country.

    Again, no one is debating whether immigration should be allowed, the problem is rewarding people with citizenship who came here illegally. Where else in our civilized society are people rewarded by our lawmakers for breaking the laws? Why should illegal immigrants be rewarded for breaking the laws?

    June 23, 2013 08:35 pm at 8:35 pm |
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