With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill
June 23rd, 2013
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With amendment killed, Rand Paul won’t support immigration bill

(CNN) – Sen. Rand Paul says he’ll vote “no” on the Senate’s bipartisan immigration reform bill, since it doesn’t include his amendment that would grant Congress power to determine whether the U.S. southern border is secure,

The Kentucky Republican had previously been open to supporting the measure, which includes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that’s contingent on bolstering border security. Paul introduced an amendment that would have required Congress to vote on whether the border was properly secure, but it failed to gain approval this week.

Without that inclusion, Paul said definitively on CNN’s “State of the Union” he would be a “no” vote.

“Without some congressional authority and without border security first, I can't support the final bill,” Paul told chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Supporters of the comprehensive immigration reform bill need 60 votes to gain passage in the Senate, but hope a larger majority will help propel the measure in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, where its prospects appear dim. With that goal in mind, an amendment was introduced this week that vastly ramps up resources along the southern border, including 700 miles of new fence.

But Paul said Sunday that provision wasn’t sufficient, saying throwing dollars at border security programs wasn’t any guarantee the problem would be fixed.

“We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. “To me, what really tells me that they're serious would be letting Congress vote on whether the border's secure. If the people in the country want to be assured that we will not get another 10 million people to come here illegally over the next decade, they have to believe they get a vote through their Congress.”

Predicting the measure would pass the Senate but fail in the House, Paul said he didn’t trust the White House to accurately assess whether or not full security had been achieved on the border.

“I don't trust this administration or a Republican administration to really make a valid judgment,” he said. “I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure.”


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  1. kay

    There is a right way and a wrong way to come into this country. Elected officials to uphold the law of the land and represent the concerns of the citizens whom they are elected by. It's not about hating anyone, it's about the law on the books. When the law is violated by crossing the border illegally, we shouldn't make excuses like we need them here. If there are jobs in this country those jobs should go first to unemployed Americans. Period.. Employees would offer jobs to Americans cause that's all who need to be here anyway. We should shop American and hire American. I see illegals taking advantage of programs funded by the taxes and workings of Americans. Those programs should serve American only, not those here by breaking the law. No wonder we're in such a mess. We've allowed this to go on for so many years, now, the illegals think they deserve a free pass to be an American. Yes this country is a melting pot. Immigrants can come here the right way.

    June 24, 2013 12:01 am at 12:01 am |
  2. Tiredoflibs

    The problem with you for this horrible bill is that you keep confusing legal and illegal immigration. My fore fathers went through legal immigration. My fore fathers had to have a skill, or a job, and they needed a sponsor and a place to live so as not to be a drain on the country. they did not sneak across the border. Ask yourself why is this the country that everybody wants to come too? Because its rich? And how did it get that way? Do you even know? Did you learn about it in school? It's our system of government, it's our Christian heritage and work ethic. It comes from great men with vision like Carnigie and Vanderbilt and Morgan. It comes from immigrants who came to be Americans and build a free country where everybody had the opportunity to fulfill their dreams. They were willing to work hard and strive. They assimilated their cultures. They leaned English. What are we supposed to do with 46 million people who can't read and write English, who have no discernable skills, who do not want to assimilate, who believe we stole their country and they want it back? How many landscapers, and fruit pickets do we need? Sorry if this offends you, but I lived in Arizona and I saw what goes on. And if the country wants to hand out loans for small businesses...there are millions of true citizens that would sure like to start their own businesses. How about giving them the money first? I say no to this bill. No to amnesty, and no to a path to citizenship for anyone who broke our laws.

    June 24, 2013 12:07 am at 12:07 am |
  3. AndyM

    Yeah, can't trust a presidential administration, but we can trust Congress, who brings us buffoons like Gohmert, Cruz, Bachmann, et al to make that call. Please.

    June 24, 2013 12:11 am at 12:11 am |
  4. liberalwithissues

    A few facts:

    If illegal immigrants were promptly and summarily returned to their own country, there would be far fewer trying to enter the USA and a greatly reduced need (and expense) for border security.

    Illegal immigrants reduce the earnings or take the jobs from the people in the USA who can least afford to suffer the consequences of their entry. Namely the Blacks, legal Hispanics, and working poor.

    If a job does not pay enough to attract sufficient labor, then that job does not pay enough. It's called a free market. A single farm worker or construction worker contributes more to the U.S. economy than all of Congress does in a lifetime.

    If these immigrants were taking the jobs of politicians, political pundents, or attorneys at law, the problem would be solved in 30 days.

    The countries from which these illegal immigrants come have wretched infrastructures. Their countries need people who have a strong work ethic, job skills, and a willingness to change the policies in their country to support increased job opportunities, namely rooting out corruption.

    The Democrats who count the votes present and future of these immigrants are like the habitual gambler who fails to consider the offsetting effects of his losses against his winnings.

    Major news organizations give no heart wrenching stories about the people whose families suffer from the effects of illegal immigration. Bias by omission is alive and well in America.

    The people who are negatively impacted by immigrants should stop watching Dancing with the Stars, Americas got Talent, and T.V. sports and take an active role in their chosen political party. Fat chance.

    June 24, 2013 12:19 am at 12:19 am |
  5. Jon

    Ah yes, Rand Paul, a man named after a failed ideologue who knows nothing of facts.

    Fact 1- immigration is down. So much so that the U.S. has a net zero population growth.
    Fact 2- So called illegals are actually, in many cases, leaving the U.S.
    Fact 3- Incidence of Fence jumping, specifically from Mexico, is at an all time low
    Fact 4- Those who were born in the U.S., regardless of the parents method of arrival, are natural born citizens
    Fact 5- This attitude of immigrant=illegal=Mexican is a non-starter, especially for Republicans. Like it or not, Whites are no longer predominant as a voting block.
    Fact 6- Most so called illegals are not stealing American jobs, they do the jobs Americans feel they themselves are too good to do.

    Bottom line: if the immigration bill dies, so too does the Right Wing's hold on government.........at least until it learns to value of people other than white, heterosexual men.

    June 24, 2013 12:26 am at 12:26 am |
  6. Ariel M

    Kill this bill once and for all

    June 24, 2013 12:31 am at 12:31 am |
  7. WillH85

    If we could just get our selves out of Afghanistan we could put some of those funds into securing our boarder. Boarder security shouldn't be some optional thing to appease the right wing, it needs to be something our government as a whole takes seriously. But realistically Liberals want illegals to flood in so that when they have children, their children can be another vote for them. The basic idea of enforcing immigration laws and keeping our boarder secure have been drowned out by politics. Sad.

    June 24, 2013 12:32 am at 12:32 am |
  8. Tim

    Who is "Rand Paul" and why does he have two first names??

    June 24, 2013 12:41 am at 12:41 am |
  9. Adam

    “We've thrown a lot of money at a lot of problems in our country,” Paul said. Yup too much money has been thrown Mr. Paul's way .. Then Paul says, I want Congress and the people to have the right to decide whether the border's secure. That's not even saying anything ... He wants the people and congress to waste their time each and everyday to evaluate the borders security .... Sounds like Mr. Paul doesn't have enough things to think about, given that he seems to want to think about the border EVERYDAY

    June 24, 2013 12:41 am at 12:41 am |
  10. PauvrePapillon

    Senator Rand Paul may be the only principled man in Washington.

    June 24, 2013 12:50 am at 12:50 am |
  11. Kim Hewson

    Thank you Mr. Paul. This bill is an insult to America and a prelude to an impending revolution. We, the people, are at a breaking point with Congres and our absentee President!

    June 24, 2013 01:02 am at 1:02 am |
  12. Clearhead

    STRANGE !!! Some of you are bashing Rand Paul for his American take on this matter. Some are bashing each other, and some are just BASHING, (and we don't know WHOM they are bashine - e.g. "Andy H" above.) How about bashing the vile socialistic influence that is causing some seemingly intelligent people and politicians to fly off their rockers and favor this abomination of a "bill" ?

    June 24, 2013 01:09 am at 1:09 am |
  13. Brian

    @ steven, What we don't need is people interring this country illegally and sucking us dry. Illegals don't pay social security, medical insurance or taxes. I am willing to open a business but unfortunately I don't fit any of the criteria for government assistance or breaks that immigrants receive.

    June 24, 2013 01:11 am at 1:11 am |
  14. Cindy

    @steven: You miss the point. Twelve MILLION people are here ILLEGALLY. Law-abiding CITIZENS have told their representative/senators that they DO NOT want to reward ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. Got it now?

    @Jim: He is doing more to preserve our rights than, oh say... OBAMA, who says he reads the newspaper to find out what's going on in the country. Do you REALLY believe that the POTUS has to read the newspaper to find out what is happening (other than golf or the celebrity gossip)?

    @IvotedforObama: Your tag says more than enough, but I have comment. When you throw the race card in ANY debate, you become the biggest LOSER. Have fun with your LOSER card.

    June 24, 2013 01:14 am at 1:14 am |
  15. mikehhh

    You want a secure border? Did you not forget the terrorist of 9/11 came through the Canadian border to attack us. You guys will never learn. The terrorist used are ignorance against us.

    June 24, 2013 01:15 am at 1:15 am |
  16. Getoverit

    @Andy H.
    No one cares what you do, no one takes you seriously. Thanks for coming in.
    --------
    So you're OK with 11 million criminals getting a free pass? Good thing no one cares what YOU think.

    June 24, 2013 01:19 am at 1:19 am |
  17. eshaw99

    to:IvotedforObama, So are you saying all non-whites are, by definition illegal?

    June 24, 2013 01:21 am at 1:21 am |
  18. ThinkAgain

    This is nothing more than a cynical plot hy Rant Paul. He's hoping that there will be problems with this immigration bill and come 2016, he will say "I didn't vote for it, I'm so independent, look at me, look at me!"

    Never mind that the American people want the House and Senate to do something for the country and stop just doing things for themselves ...

    June 24, 2013 01:35 am at 1:35 am |
  19. ThinkAgain

    Picnic says Rant Paul is showing " deep wisdom@ by demanding the vague requirement that the Senate decide the border is secure based on how it feels.

    No wisdom; in fact, it's deep ignorance. Congress passes laws and our judiciary enforces them

    Once again Rant demonstrates what an epic FAIL he is.

    June 24, 2013 01:40 am at 1:40 am |
  20. Leroy

    Rand Paul is striving to become just another professional politician, just like his daddy....

    June 24, 2013 01:40 am at 1:40 am |
  21. Anonymous

    Native american here, what does so called native american mean? I also work in the medical field, and I do not know how people from mexico are receiving medicaid?????

    June 24, 2013 01:45 am at 1:45 am |
  22. Zil Zerimar

    You will not support the immigration bill? It's okay we will not also support you. YOU WILL NEVER EVER BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE US OF A!!!!!!!

    June 24, 2013 02:03 am at 2:03 am |
  23. Tim

    Steven,
    I doubt that there are all that many people, here, who are "against immigration". Legal immigration is what built this nation. It made us strong, and it would help keep us strong. What I and others are against, is unchecked illegal immigration, as well as rewarding those who commit that particular crime. My ex-wife and both of my children were born in Mexico. We spent the time, effort and money, to make sure that they were here, legally. To reward illegals, with amnesty, is a slap in the face, to all those who played by the rules, no matter how frustrating they could be, at times. Also, knowing that Congress just axed the funds, to finish the fence, which was voted on and passed, during the last administration, I absolutely do not trust them, to keep their word and secure our southern border, in exchange, for agreeing to an amnesty, now.

    June 24, 2013 02:03 am at 2:03 am |
  24. smdahl

    I haven't met a single person who supports this ridiculous bill. It doesn't matter if you are for or against immigration, this bill will inflate our debt by hundreds of billions to process millions of "paths to citizenship". And Rand is being ridiculous too. But what else can we expect from DC?

    June 24, 2013 02:06 am at 2:06 am |
  25. Mike TemplewindUSA

    From what I've witnessed, the majority of Hispanics take our social services and are favored over white nationals in the non-profit service organizations.

    June 24, 2013 02:11 am at 2:11 am |
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