Senate takes another step toward passing immigration reform
June 26th, 2013
12:59 PM ET
10 months ago

Senate takes another step toward passing immigration reform

Washington (CNN) - A compromise amendment intended to ease congressional passage of sweeping immigration legislation easily won Senate approval Wednesday.

The 69-29 vote set up a procedural motion immediately afterward to limit debate on the roughly 1,200-page bill, which would provide an eventual path to citizenship for millions of immigrants living illegally in the country.

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  1. tom l.

    @Domincan,
    "And no, they are not royalty.
    At least not yet....."

    Never have you said so much with so few words. It's really scary. And the most frightening part is that you are an educated, intelligent person yet you feel this way. I just can't tell you how much those words should really alarm you. You really want a king?

    June 26, 2013 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  2. tom l.

    @Sniffit,
    Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. Of course the votes in congress were like that, would you want to face the wrath of people like you that will use intentionally misrepresent why someone would not be for it. There are very, very, very few people in congress with any integrity. They only want to get re-elected and they only want more money/power. So they just vote for that as the path of least resistance.

    I find it interesting that you chose to respond to that part of my comment yet neglect the part about your sad bigotry. Clearly, you have such low expectations for certain groups of people that you don't think they can get an ID. How much lower must one's expectations be of an individual than to think they can't even get an ID?

    The soft bigotry (probably the worst kind) of low expectations.

    June 26, 2013 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  3. Gurgyl

    Every four years–pile up illegals–give them legal status–another fiv years these H1-B, J-1, L-1visa guys from India will be ready–for robbing benefits, make all these illegalso also to legals. I guess these idiots from congress not reading the legislation before these animals pass it. Very pathetic.

    June 26, 2013 03:08 pm at 3:08 pm |
  4. DCons

    What about the people who did follow the rules. but still cannot become residents after a decade?
    There are many people paying taxes, going to schools (paying out of state tution), working, supporting the economy of this country... They deserve a green card, or at least an easier path to being here permanently.

    For instance, I currently have a car loan, a life in the USA, came here 11 years ago, but the government expects me to leave any time. NOT FAIR. I appreciate my time here. I understand I was here on a short time stay, but people have the right to grow and enjoy the opportunities here. Haven't Americans experienced that in their lives? Cannot you relate? Have you accepted a job in another city or state and stayed there? A little compassion would be good.
    Welcome people who do good to this country. We just need your support.

    June 26, 2013 03:08 pm at 3:08 pm |
  5. Guest

    Our nations downfall continues at the hands of liberal criminals and illegal invaders. Buy guns, you'll need them soon.

    June 26, 2013 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  6. California

    If the house won't pass it this all means literally nothing.

    June 26, 2013 03:25 pm at 3:25 pm |
  7. Guest

    Dcons – if you took away the masses who dont follow the rules the system would likely be much improved for people in your situation and resources not wasted as the left prefers.

    June 26, 2013 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  8. Steveo

    @Zerubbabel

    Steveo

    If you read the new testament you would know that the old testament was replaced by the new testament. We are under the Law of Grace now.
    ----------–
    Fully aware. Thanks BUT in a historical context, strangers who lived among God's people were fully expected to obey the law. In the New, Paul talks about how human government is ordained by God. The point is the law must be followed and applied. In saying that the gist of the remark was about illegal immigration. For the cause of political expediency, it is not!

    June 26, 2013 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  9. Sniffit

    "I find it interesting that you chose to respond to that part of my comment yet neglect the part about your sad bigotry. "

    Responding to baseless and ridiculous ad hominem is pretty boring. You might want to get a different schtick than the tired and offensive "reverse racism" nonsense. Anyway, nothing you said changes the massive congressional record that established the need for reauthorizing the VRA AS WRITTEN or the legal principles I set forth regarding SCOTUS deference to congressional fact-finding and determinations. The VRA decision is still going to go down as some of the most activist legislating from the bench we've seen or will ever see in our lifetimes....and the GOP is already fixing to hang themselves with it via a flood of voter suppression legislation. Enjoy the fallout. I know I will.

    June 26, 2013 03:31 pm at 3:31 pm |
  10. California

    Democrats want to give the world amnesty. They know it and so does everyone else.

    June 26, 2013 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  11. Steveo

    sonny chapman

    Steveo: I try to follow the Teachings of Jesus as found in the Four Gospels. " I did not come to judge you, but to save you. The WORD will judge you. Every word that I spoke comes not from me, but from the Father who sent me." John 12,48.
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    As do I but what about the ENTIRE book (New Testament) especially the letters of Paul? Chrisianity did not exist until after the death of Christ. In fact, the Christian church did not exist until Pentecost (as recorded in the book of Romans). So if you limit yourself to only the Gospels, you miss a lot of instruction!

    June 26, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  12. DCons

    I don't think it's a reward when they are going to have to pay thousands of dollars in paperwork and taxes not paid before.
    They have already suffered for years (not seing their families, having low pay jobs, driving with fear of being deported everytime they get a ticket red light or whatever). I know it was their choice, and these are the consequences. But other choice would have been for many to stay at home earning 100-200 dollars per month to raise a family. If you have not lived in a third world country poor area, you would never understand the sad life people live there. They are humans, and the governments steal all the money (corruption).
    They will just apply for a license and pay taxes.... what's so bad about it. They have been here for years, working at the fancy restaurants you have been to many times. It's time to come out of the shadows. Why people remained cold and indiferent all those years?

    Lucky you... were born in a country of opportunities ... a wealthy land... even for the poor or middle class citizens... Compassion Americans

    June 26, 2013 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  13. Fair is Fair

    "As do I but what about the ENTIRE book (New Testament) especially the letters of Paul? Chrisianity did not exist until after the death of Christ. In fact, the Christian church did not exist until Pentecost (as recorded in the book of Romans). So if you limit yourself to only the Gospels, you miss a lot of instruction!"
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    Ummmmmmmmm... maybe I'm wrong, but it was Acts, not Romans?

    June 26, 2013 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  14. tom l.

    @Sniffit,
    Never once did I talk about "reverse racism". All I said is that you are the prime example of soft bigotry of low expectations.
    Apparently, you believe that an African American can't obtain an ID which would be necessary to vote. I believe that an African American can achieve that and much, much more.
    So again, no reverse racism, just your low expectation of a group for some reason. You, unfortunately, are the one that thinks so little of a person that they can't get an ID; one of the simplest functions for any person.

    June 26, 2013 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  15. Bob

    @DCons

    I don't think it's a reward when they are going to have to pay thousands of dollars in paperwork and taxes not paid before.
    They have already suffered for years (not seing their families, having low pay jobs, driving with fear of being deported everytime they get a ticket red light or whatever). I know it was their choice, and these are the consequences. But other choice would have been for many to stay at home earning 100-200 dollars per month to raise a family. If you have not lived in a third world country poor area, you would never understand the sad life people live there. They are humans, and the governments steal all the money (corruption).
    They will just apply for a license and pay taxes.... what's so bad about it. They have been here for years, working at the fancy restaurants you have been to many times. It's time to come out of the shadows. Why people remained cold and indiferent all those years?

    Lucky you... were born in a country of opportunities ... a wealthy land... even for the poor or middle class citizens... Compassion Americans
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    Time for a good game of "cowboys and illegal aliens." Illegal aliens have no rights, they are illegal.

    June 26, 2013 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  16. just askin

    what makes anybody believe that liberal/progressive/leftists/socialist/communist democrats have any intention of enforcing immigration laws that they do not agree with? they are disregarding them now and refusing to enfocre them. why will they enfocre new laws? answer: they won't. this is all a con game from the democrats. they don't care about this country one iota. they have done everything in their power to destroy it form the inside.

    June 26, 2013 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  17. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    Apparently, you believe that an African American can't obtain an ID which would be necessary to vote.
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    If you paid attention to what some of these states were trying to do in regards to voter ID last year, you would know it's not as simple as you make it out to be.

    June 26, 2013 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  18. sonny chapman

    Steveo: My experience is that the further Organized Christian Religion gets , in time & space from the WORD, as spoken by Jesus, the less accurate it becomes. Human frailty slips in. St. Paul, who never met the live Jesus, writes beautiful stuff, but even he is somewhat tainted by his strict Hebrew upbringing. I like to stick to the Source. The Words of Jesus in the Four Gospels; the WORD. And those Words are tough to live by & they don't match up with many of the Beliefs of Conservative Christians. Jesus was TOO liberal for his own time & paid the ultimate price at the hands of the Romans, guided by Caiaphas.

    June 26, 2013 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  19. Peoples State of Illinois

    @tom l.

    @Sniffit,
    Never once did I talk about "reverse racism". All I said is that you are the prime example of soft bigotry of low expectations.
    Apparently, you believe that an African American can't obtain an ID which would be necessary to vote. I believe that an African American can achieve that and much, much more.
    So again, no reverse racism, just your low expectation of a group for some reason. You, unfortunately, are the one that thinks so little of a person that they can't get an ID; one of the simplest functions for any person.
    ------------
    They have to have an ID to get their food stamps. So showing an ID to vote should not be a problem.

    June 26, 2013 04:07 pm at 4:07 pm |
  20. Rick McDaniel

    For me, I see it as treason, to pass this bill.

    June 26, 2013 04:10 pm at 4:10 pm |
  21. tom l.

    @Dutch,
    Yes it is that simple. You need to identify yourself to vote. I can't imagine what anyone would think is wrong with that. Would you like someone voting for a repub that isn't registered to vote? Would you like someone voting 10 times for a repub because there is no way to track who someone is? It just makes no sense.
    The minimal effort it takes to get an ID is a fair trade off to make sure the vote is valid.
    Again, you guys on the left with your soft bigotry. It's pathetic.

    June 26, 2013 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  22. tom l.

    @Dutch,
    Not to mention the incredible bigotry to assume that these voter ID laws will only affect minorities (and your assumption that if you're a minority, you're voting democrat). Wow. So these people aren't individuals with individual opinions. They all think the same and vote the same. You guys are such bigots and you don't even realize it.

    June 26, 2013 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  23. The Real Tom Paine

    -tom l.

    @Sniffit,
    Never once did I talk about "reverse racism". All I said is that you are the prime example of soft bigotry of low expectations.
    Apparently, you believe that an African American can't obtain an ID which would be necessary to vote. I believe that an African American can achieve that and much, much more.
    So again, no reverse racism, just your low expectation of a group for some reason. You, unfortunately, are the one that thinks so little of a person that they can't get an ID; one of the simplest functions for any person.
    *****************
    No, you are the one who thinks so little of a person that they can't have a point of view differing from your own. your soft bigotry is on display with the assumption that we must think they cannot do better: they can, but when teh deck is stacked against you, it becomes much harder: even you have to admit that. Oh, and Peoples State of Illinois? Way to go with the blanket assumption that every black person is on food stamps. Congratulations on your flyspeck moment of the week.

    June 26, 2013 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  24. Data Driven

    @tom l,

    Getting a photo ID from a state is a simple function for most people. Not all, however. Not for, say, a life-long cripple receiving only about 15K from the government after health benefits. Naturally, this person doesn't drive so he can't get to the DMV on his own. And what dollars are left after his contribution to whatever Section 8 rent he must pay, utilities, food, and medicine? 20 bucks is a very big deal to many people here in the Greatest Nation on Earth. Photo ID requirements amount to a poll-tax. Voting is broken, and made even worse by Roberts yesterday. We must fix it. Or just forget the whole mess.

    June 26, 2013 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  25. Steveo

    @sonny chapman

    Steveo: My experience is that the further Organized Christian Religion gets , in time & space from the WORD, as spoken by Jesus, the less accurate it becomes. Human frailty slips in. St. Paul, who never met the live Jesus, writes beautiful stuff, but even he is somewhat tainted by his strict Hebrew upbringing. I like to stick to the Source. The Words of Jesus in the Four Gospels; the WORD. And those Words are tough to live by & they don't match up with many of the Beliefs of Conservative Christians. Jesus was TOO liberal for his own time & paid the ultimate price at the hands of the Romans, guided by Caiaphas.
    -----------–
    Who did Paul talk to on the Road to Damascus? Your are correct though, they are tough words that is why we need His help. Paul actually warned Christians about returning back to Judaism and his ministry was marked with run ins with the Jews, although he was a Jew. Anyway, keep on reading! I agree that there are some teachings and teachers out there that are nowhere near biblically correct. No disagreement there!

    June 26, 2013 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
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