North Carolina joins states legislating against abortion
July 3rd, 2013
11:24 AM ET
1 year ago

North Carolina joins states legislating against abortion

Updated 7/3 at 2:30pm

(CNN) – Joining other Republican-controlled states like Texas and Ohio in legislative efforts to restrict abortion, the North Carolina state Senate Tuesday amended a bill originally focused on preventing foreign laws from playing any role in state legal proceedings to include a number of restrictions on abortion.

Amended and tentatively passed by the state Senate in one day in a 27-14 vote without any support from state Democrats, the bill would limit insurance coverage for abortions, require doctors to be present for the entire procedure, make gender-selective abortions illegal and require abortion clinics to meet the same licensing standards as surgical centers. The Senate gave it final approval Wednesday and sent it back to the North Carolina House for one last vote.

The licensing requirement in particular has become a popular tactic among anti-abortion advocates, which they argue ensures the safety of the procedure. Opponents argue it is an onerous requirement aimed solely at forcing abortion clinics to close.

Planned Parenthood's North Carolina branch is calling the amended bill a "sneak attack" on abortion rights and has vowed to fight the legislation, with supporters rallying in the state general assembly Wednesday morning.

The bill was first introduced in early April and was aimed solely at keeping foreign laws, which would include Islamic Sharia law, out of state legal proceedings such as divorce and child custody.

NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina said in a statement that the abortion amendment was passed without warning or public notice, arguing that it was meant to fly in under the radar. "In the final minutes of marking up an unrelated piece of legislation, the Senate Judiciary committee swiftly tacked on every anti-choice piece of legislation introduced since January," said Executive Director Suzanne Buckley.

Opponents of the North Carolina bill have expressed an awareness of larger fights over abortion, with references in particular to the filibuster and temporary disruption of a Texas abortion bill last week. In a Facebook post Wednesday morning, the Planned Parenthood Health Systems Action Fund cautions North Carolina protesters: "FYI: As opposed to Texas, anyone who is disruptive in the Senate gallery will be arrested."

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Some protesters have even said they're "wearing their Wendy Davis shoes," in reference to the Texas state senator who staged a 13-hour filibuster last week that was buoyed by disruptive protesters who crowded into the state capitol.

As the debate rages in North Carolina and Texas, Ohio has already managed to pass controversial abortion restrictions in its state budget. Signed into law Sunday by Republican Gov. John Kasich, the budget requires ultrasounds for anyone seeking an abortion and limits the ability of abortion patients to transfer to public hospitals.

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A CNN affiliate in North Carolina, WNCN, contacted a spokeswoman for Republican Gov. Pat McCrory Tuesday night, she had no comment. McCrory said in his campaign last fall that he wasn't interested in pursuing further abortion restrictions.

A separate bill currently working its way through the North Carolina legislature would require schools to teach students that abortions cause risks of premature births for subsequent pregnancies. Opponents contest that conclusion.

According to media reports, McCrory has said he would sign that bill into law, arguing that as an education bill, it is not a limit on abortion. The governor’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

The bill that the Senate passed Wednesday restricting abortions was shepherded by Sen. Warren Daniel, who referred to the "house of horrors" of the Philadelphia abortion doctor convicted of murdering live babies in defending the legislation. "This bill is about safety," the Republican said during the floor debate, according to WNCN. "If we require regulations that are burdensome on orthopedic (offices) and they can compete in the marketplace, than ... abortion providers can, too."

Marjorie Dannenfelser, President of the Susan B. Anthony List, applauded the legislation, specifically referencing the Philadelphia case. “Numerous states have rightfully taken steps to increase the health and safety standards of their own abortion facilities in an effort to protect women," she said in a statement. "North Carolina legislators, like those in Texas and elsewhere across the country, are acting on the will of the pro-life grassroots in advancing this much-needed, common ground legislation.”


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  1. Name jk. Sfl. GOP conservatives,the garbage of America.

    Time to get rid of the GOP cancer in America in 2014 midterms, the only way to move forward and not backwards with the GOP horse and buggy agenda, church and state must be separate or move to Iran and get out of the USA!!!!!

    July 3, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  2. Steveo

    @rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
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    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
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    1. The government should have never been involved in the first place but you seem to forget Roe v Wade was government involvement but it was government involvement to your liking.

    2. The GOP hates people? So you end rant on a lie? Good on you!

    July 3, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  3. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    Total lie. Republicans support the notion that organizations should not have to provide contraception if it against their core beliefs. Those contraceptives can be obtained at little or no cost elsewhere. And if you don't have the responsibility to pay 10 bucks a month for the pill or a couple of bucks for a condom, you're CLEARLY not responsible enough to be engaging in an activity where the natural result is procreation. Knock it off and grow up.
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    No lie, Fair. Rick Santorum and other Christian conservatives are against all forms of birth control. Especially stuff like IUDs and birth control pills. They consider them to be a form of abortion because they belief life begins at conception.

    July 3, 2013 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  4. rs

    Total lie. Republicans support the notion that organizations should not have to provide contraception if it against their core beliefs. Those contraceptives can be obtained at little or no cost elsewhere. And if you don't have the responsibility to pay 10 bucks a month for the pill or a couple of bucks for a condon, you're CLEARLY not responsible enough to be engaging in an activity where the natural result is procreation. Knock it off and grow up.
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    The delusion is strong in this one.
    1. The GOP is using people's religious beliefs to undermine womens' healthcare, contraceptive availability and abortion- we're kind of seeing a pre- Margaret Sanger view of women and life- like before women could vote. Their redefinition of "life" is in no way based in science. A reminder- we are not a theocratic state.
    2. The insidious parts of these new uterine control laws (what IS this GOP sickness?) is that, sure, they try to end abortions after set periods- all well and good, but they hugely impact costs by setting un-obtainable standards for the clinics- essentially turning them into surgery theaters- something they don not, or ever needed to be.
    3. The GOP is demanding Clinic doctors have admitting status at regional hospitals, while the same law bans hospitals from granting such priviledges to non-resident doctors.
    GOP=Taliban- it is that simple!

    July 3, 2013 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  5. Ron L

    The most disturbing thing about the passaging of the bills in both North Carolina and Ohio is the tactic in which they are being implemented. They hide the laws in bills that having nothing to do with abortion HOPING no one will find out until it is too late. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND UNFAIR WAY to change the lives of people in what is SUPPOSE to be a Democratic country. This type of legislation should ALARM EVERYONE. If they will do it on abortion what is to say they won't do it on other issues?? They want to restrict abortions to 20 weeks OK, but why take away the other services including education of young woman and contraceptives that would reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies?? Because this is more about INFLICTING their will and values on others instead of just abortion!! If I were a woman I would be REALLY PISSED OFF by this trend....

    July 3, 2013 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  6. Malory Archer

    The bill was first introduced in early April and was aimed solely at keeping foreign laws, which would include Islamic Sharia law, out of state legal proceedings such as divorce and child custody.

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    Yet, adding such a draconian rider to this bill is straight out of the Sharia playbook! The rethugs ARE what they claim to detest!

    July 3, 2013 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  7. Steveo

    rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
    ______________________________________________
    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
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    Since you glossed right over my question, I'll ask it again. How was Just Sayin' pushing a religious belief when he simply stated what he believes. I don't recall him stating you or anyone else has to believe the same thing. Eagerly awaiting your HONEST answer

    July 3, 2013 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  8. Fair is Fair

    @ Data Driven -

    With respect to tax dollars paying for abortion – at the federal level, such measures are already in place. Why not at the state level? I'm sorry, DD, but the act of engaging in what naturally results in procreation typically ends in procreation. And while tragic but true that a small percentage of pregancy is involuntary, the vast, VAST majority do not fit into that category. Abortion as a means of birth control is immoral at very best and, in my belief, almost criminal. Abortion as a means of saving the host's life is clearly acceptable. I also cannot see forcing a woman to carry a rape or incest pregancy to term.

    July 3, 2013 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
  9. Name jk. Sfl. GOP conservatives,the garbage of America.

    GOP, as the five year old in the car seat says, worry about your self and mind your own business, GOP morons, nobody even gets abortions after 20 weeks but I suggest all GOP moms have one at anytime!!!!

    July 3, 2013 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  10. Malory Archer

    CHRIS

    Dutch learn your history . The Democrats were the slave owners. Its democrats who started abortion and the eugenics program. Guess support kermit gosnell also

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    Chris, you really should learn history before you tell anyone else to do so. Southern Dems were slave-owners, and the racist dems ruled the south for far too long. However, after LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s, all those racist dems became rethugs while whining that they didn't leave the Dem party – the Dem party left them (and for the better I say). In fact, LBJ said himself that his support of the Civil Rights Act cost the Democratic party the south for generations to come as all the racist dems became rethugs. Nobody supports Gosnell. He's a criminal and will spend the rest of his life in prison for his crimes, so please put that tired strawman back in your closet.

    July 3, 2013 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  11. Donkey Party

    Steveo – Except you were serious, and he wasn't. His was a hypothetical question, yours was rooted in right-wing belief. Big difference.

    July 3, 2013 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  12. rs

    Steveo

    @rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
    ______________________________________________
    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
    ----–
    1. The government should have never been involved in the first place but you seem to forget Roe v Wade was government involvement but it was government involvement to your liking.

    2. The GOP hates people? So you end rant on a lie? Good on you!
    ________________________
    well you are correct, not ALL people obviously- they seem to have a real attachment to the 1%, but even kind old Romney couldn't find truck with 47%.
    Look- the GOP's policies would negatively impact: women; children; the poor; the working classes; and the elderly. Am I missing something?

    July 3, 2013 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  13. rs

    Steveo

    rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
    ______________________________________________
    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
    ---
    Since you glossed right over my question, I'll ask it again. How was Just Sayin' pushing a religious belief when he simply stated what he believes. I don't recall him stating you or anyone else has to believe the same thing. Eagerly awaiting your HONEST answer
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    By pushing a non-scientific, fundamentalist view of "life" as the foundation for a law governing women, and their bodies.

    July 3, 2013 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  14. Donkey Party

    For those of you who say "who chooses to have an abortion past 20 weeks"? Well, it's not so much a choice at that point, but a necessity, because the mother's life is in peril. So you pro-life (anti-choice) supporters are ok with the mother AND fetus dying? That's why you shouldn't use the term "pro-life" in the first place, because you most certainly aren't.

    July 3, 2013 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  15. rs

    Fair is Fair

    @ Data Driven -

    With respect to tax dollars paying for abortion – at the federal level, such measures are already in place. Why not at the state level? I'm sorry, DD, but the act of engaging in what naturally results in procreation typically ends in procreation. And while tragic but true that a small percentage of pregancy is involuntary, the vast, VAST majority do not fit into that category. Abortion as a means of birth control is immoral at very best and, in my belief, almost criminal. Abortion as a means of saving the host's life is clearly acceptable. I also cannot see forcing a woman to carry a rape or incest pregancy to term.
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    Exactly. Abortion as birth control IS NOT a good sequence of events. Yet, these laws (NC, OH, NC) doaway with exactly what you say you would support- abortion for life of the mother, and in cases of rape and incest are gone- and the collateral damage closes most women's clinics (reducing poor women's health care choices and access to cheap birth control).This is a recipe for the return of back alley abortions, more unwanted children (with all of the attendent problems, pooer health, more poverty. Is THIS moral- especially as the GOP seems happy to do so in the name of their God?

    These laws are as bad as what the Taliban peddles.

    July 3, 2013 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  16. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    ... ... ... Abortion as a means of saving the host's life is clearly acceptable. I also cannot see forcing a woman to carry a rape or incest pregnancy to term.
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    That's not how the right wing rolls. Gov. Perry's law prohibits any procedures after "20 weeks". I think this measure in NC is the same way, just like elsewhere.

    July 3, 2013 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  17. rs

    MaryM

    It is NEVER a good idea to try to circumvent the U.S. Constituion or the Supreme Court rulings. And that is exactly what these trap law bills are attempting. It sets a dangerous precedent for other Constitution rights to become victims of these "trap laws". Such as the 2nd Amendment
    ______________
    Exactly. The GOP is placing themselves in the case of abortion and Gay marriage in a position of "winning" only by limiting or taking away existing rights. That's a lose-lose for sure.

    July 3, 2013 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  18. Fair is Fair

    Donkey Party

    For those of you who say "who chooses to have an abortion past 20 weeks"? Well, it's not so much a choice at that point, but a necessity, because the mother's life is in peril. So you pro-life (anti-choice) supporters are ok with the mother AND fetus dying? That's why you shouldn't use the term "pro-life" in the first place, because you most certainly aren't.
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    If the mother's life is truly "in peril", I think you'd be hard-pressed to find very many pro-life folks that would object to the procedure as a life-saving measure. I certainy wouldn't, and I'm proudly about as pro-life as you can get.

    July 3, 2013 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  19. Donkey Party

    And for those of you who say "I don't want my tax dollars going to abortions", well, first of all, it doesn't, and second of all, I don't want my tax dollars going to oil or farm subsidies, nor do I want it to go to a bloated defense budget, and for that matter, I don't want it to go to the red welfare states. Too bad we can't pick and choose, right?

    July 3, 2013 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
  20. Steveo

    @rs

    Steveo

    @rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
    ______________________________________________
    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
    --–
    1. The government should have never been involved in the first place but you seem to forget Roe v Wade was government involvement but it was government involvement to your liking.

    2. The GOP hates people? So you end rant on a lie? Good on you!
    ________________________
    well you are correct, not ALL people obviously- they seem to have a real attachment to the 1%, but even kind old Romney couldn't find truck with 47%.
    Look- the GOP's policies would negatively impact: women; children; the poor; the working classes; and the elderly. Am I missing something?
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    1. Bill Gates is 1%. Obama's brand new appointee is in the 1%, the Clinton's are the 1%. Buffett is in the 1%. Any of these folks GOP?

    2. Statement #2 is OPINION not fact!

    July 3, 2013 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  21. andrew

    Another GOP/Fascist move to controll women since they can't control America. It is time to vote these power mad idiots out of office and be America again as opposed to a 'Fourth Reich' for angry impotant old white men and their Stepford wives and mistresses.. Way to go NC..your once great state just turned into Texass. Watch your economy tank.

    July 3, 2013 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  22. mookie1972

    There's 49 other states. Don't like it? Move. Democracy in action.

    Wasn't that the popular response by the left when the current administration was elected and re-elected?

    July 3, 2013 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  23. kathryn willis

    Make no mistake about this, North Carolina is with the help of the religious right is once again trying to get
    rid of a womans right to an abortion.

    July 3, 2013 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  24. Steveo

    @rs

    Steveo

    rs

    Stop the madness. How is Just Sayin pushing anything? He is simply stating what he believes. That no longer allowed? You do it ALL the time! Yet you are somehow the "TOLERANT" party? Since when?
    ______________________________________________
    Since when is turning all women of childbearing age into government controlled breeders even remotely smart? You are talking about infringing on the rights of half the population. For what? The GOP hates people after they are born anyway.
    -
    Since you glossed right over my question, I'll ask it again. How was Just Sayin' pushing a religious belief when he simply stated what he believes. I don't recall him stating you or anyone else has to believe the same thing. Eagerly awaiting your HONEST answer
    ______________
    By pushing a non-scientific, fundamentalist view of "life" as the foundation for a law governing women, and their bodies.
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    You did not answer the question which was how is he PUSHING anything by stating what he believes even when he did not say you have to believe the same. I will answer. He is NOT pushing anything. The issue is when you hear something you don't agree with, you claim it is a push. If that is the case you lefties PUSH your agenda on the rest of us on a daily basis but to you it is not a push because you agree with it. If it works one way, it has to work the other!

    July 3, 2013 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |
  25. scarf

    I've been saying it for years, and now people are actually agreeing with me. Republicans love big government just as much as Democrats; they just believe in using big government for different things than Democrats. Democrats want to use big government to create big social programs. Republicans want to use big government to impose their social values on everyone else.

    July 3, 2013 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
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