August 9th, 2013
06:45 PM ET
9 months ago

Crossfire debate: Government shutdown or Obamacare?

(CNN) - Should the GOP threaten a government shutdown if Obamacare isn't defunded? Crossfire hosts Van Jones and S.E. Cupp debate.


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  1. rs

    When what Republicans call "freedom" really means no health care insurance (and hence no health care) for at least 30 million of our fellow citizens, it really means they have NOTHING for America.

    Question: if a foreign nation or terrorist group did something that affected the ability of 30 million Americans to get health care, would we declare war on them?

    Republicans- still doing nothing good for America.

    August 9, 2013 08:45 pm at 8:45 pm |
  2. anonoymous

    So lets get this straight if the gop doesnt get their way they are going to take their marbles and go home? Get over it aca is law moeve on to something else like say a jobs bill!

    August 9, 2013 08:46 pm at 8:46 pm |
  3. ED1

    Obamacare as it is cost way to much should not be funded and try a bill that the people will read in the White House and Congress before it's passed.

    August 9, 2013 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm |
  4. J.V.Hodgson

    A very loud mouthed lady lost this debate big time... "appaling that the president should state facts the republicans have voted own PPACA 40 times which would deprive 30m Americans of health care coverage" big mistake.
    The guy with opposite views said why don't they come to the party and try to improve the bill instead of total opposition.
    Answer they cant the teatards wont allow that.
    And they are the school kids who take the ball away from the football game when any ref makes a decision in favor of the opposing side. The ref in this case is the house and senate that passed PPACA!!
    Regards,
    Hodgson

    August 10, 2013 02:23 am at 2:23 am |
  5. J.V.Hodgson

    PS most of PPACA is not discretionary spending.. so a shutdown via this route ( non discretionary spending is impractical) and will never pass into law Obama would veto the lot.... actually, he wouldn't have to, the senate would not table such legislation.
    Republicans are simply trying to avoid last times disaster of not voting a continuing budget resolution... trying to make it appear Obama and dems are shutting down government not them. There is a huge higher proportion of money outflow that will be affected badly if they try this as not only health care shuts down everything does, and that is also a flaw in the thinking as too much is no discretionary spend re PPACA
    This did not come out yet again in this debate Wolf ... why not.
    Regards,
    Hodgson.

    August 10, 2013 02:32 am at 2:32 am |
  6. James Briggs

    The GOP can threaten all they want, but they have no right to complain if the Democrats decide to use the "nuclear option" to move things along.

    August 10, 2013 06:41 am at 6:41 am |
  7. Marie MD

    Obamacare, as in the law of the land? Obamacare that the rethugs/teatrolls have wasted tax payer money and their time 40 times and still can't defeat it?
    Obamacare that allows parents to keep their children insured until they are 26 years old? Obamacare that keeps insurance companies from setting ceiling caps? Obamacare that if you have a persisting condition still gives you the right to be cared for? Obamacare that closed the seniors donut black hole regarding medications?
    Florida is one of the rec governor states that has allowed insurance companies to raise the price of insurance BEFORE Obamacare goes into full effect because they want to blame Obamacare for the higher rates.
    Shutting down the government by not paying our troops and seniors not getting their social security along with millions of employees without jobs is what the teatrolls want? Go ahead canadian cross McCarthy and company. Let's see how far this little charade gets you!

    August 10, 2013 08:03 am at 8:03 am |
  8. Tony

    Government shutdown will not help the Republican Party, because most of the people who depend on the government are white. The New York Times published a series of articles in December 2009, showing that 36 million Americans were on food stamps. Of the 36 million, more than 24 million were white.

    The Republican-controlled House just voted to eliminate the food stamp program. Some Republican strategists have wondered why 16 million white people failed to vote in the 2012 election. Well, now you know why. These white people knew that the Republican Party not only will not do anything for minorities, it will not do anything for them either.

    August 10, 2013 10:08 am at 10:08 am |
  9. ge

    the gop have shut the government down since 2009–nothing new here

    August 10, 2013 10:08 am at 10:08 am |