August 13th, 2013
07:53 PM ET
1 year ago

Crossfire co-hosts debate voting rights

Crossfire co-hosts Stephanie Cutter and S.E. Cupp got into a heated debate Tuesday over voting rights and a new voter ID law in North Carolina.


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  1. Gurgyl

    It sure discriminates the voter. Federal government voter reform is due. This idiotic NC law suppresses the voting rights. I still do not understand how can they register without solid proof? How idiotic ploy by these rethuglican idiots.

    August 13, 2013 07:59 pm at 7:59 pm |
  2. jason

    NORTH CAROLINA: FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH OR MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD? At this point during the 2010 election, more than 2600 people over the age of 110 had allegedly already voted in North Carolina. How was that possible?

    Perhaps in an effort to promote North Carolina as one of the healthiest States in the Nation, this latest voter twist comes to us from Susan Myrick of the Civitas Institute in North Carolina–not to be confused with Rep. Sue Myrick of NC who is unrelated. In a radio interview with local WBT Anchor Tara Servatious, Susan reports that she has been keeping track of the number of votes in North Carolina of individuals over the age of 110 years and apparently we have quite a few, over 410 of the 110 year olds–to be exact– actually voted via absentee ballot on October the 28th. Yes indeed, now it would appear that good ole NC has the market cornered on the Centenarian vote.

    At latest count, Susan has garnered a total Absentee Ballot vote of over 2,660 people over the age of 110. Someone contact the Guiness Book and warm up the Ford, the Fountain of Youth exists and its right here in lovely NC. It’s no wonder people are moving here in droves–maybe the use of tobacco isn’t such a bad thing after all? But, on a more serious note, with all of the irregularities going on all over the place, we can now begin to wonder about a few things.
    Fast forward to 2012. According to reports circulating around the internet, there are similar rumors of voter fraud already popping up in North Carolina with two weeks left until Election Day. When local elections boards don’t have birthday data for a registered voter they generally plug in Jan. 1, 1900. Charlie Collicutt, deputy director of Guilford County’s BOE, told me this morning that the county has about 3,500 of these voters on its active registration rolls. Prior to 1960, Collicutt said, the standard voter registration form didn’t ask people for their birthday.

    “It just said, ‘are you 18?’” he said.

    August 13, 2013 08:30 pm at 8:30 pm |
  3. The Pontificator

    The only people against verifying identity of voters are those who gain from votes by people who are not legally allowed to vote.

    August 13, 2013 08:41 pm at 8:41 pm |
  4. The Pontificator

    The liberal dems realize that after the double wammy of socialized health care and amnesty totally push the country into the abyss, the only chance they'll have for reelection is massive voter fraud, people who are not allowed to vote showing up at the polls to vote for them.

    August 13, 2013 08:50 pm at 8:50 pm |
  5. Revolution

    The only way a liberal can win an election. Illegal votes.

    August 13, 2013 08:56 pm at 8:56 pm |
  6. rs

    You know, it isn't like it's a close choice, or not an obvious problem for the GOP. They are opposed to Voter's Rights- the single, most basic rights of Americans. They are against Civil Rights. So much for the "freedom" they claim to cherish.
    They say the want "small government", yet they come up with outrageous big government solutions- to keep rights from Gays; to make sure people perform the "right" sex; to take rights away from women; to pass laws under some pretty extraordinary, non-public commentary methods (anti-abortion law as "Motorcycle Safety law?).
    The GOP says it wants more freedom, and they do- for them, not for us, not the average American.

    August 13, 2013 09:18 pm at 9:18 pm |
  7. szinda

    Great, two morons arguing. Total waste of time.

    August 13, 2013 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  8. Ron L

    You really have to be naïve to believe this is new "voter registration" does not discriminate against minority and elderly voters. I saw the 90 second video by the Governor of North Carolina attempting to make it seem so harmless. There is one thing many middle class whites in America do not understand when it comes to this photo ID that is used for driving cars, or going through security checks at the airport. When you are really poor or really old, you do not own a car, and you barely have enough money to eat ,so you are definitely not paying for airfare and flying somewhere!! If the Governor is SERIOUS about fairness, he needs to make sure every eligible person in the state is provided the opportunity to register by providing FREE transportation and FREE government issued ID. If you are going to change the rules for such a fundamental RIGHT, you should provide the new requirements FREE of charge!! I don't think we are going to see that happen though.

    August 13, 2013 09:48 pm at 9:48 pm |
  9. king

    i remembered when i went to get my drivers license i had to have two IDs and some kind of bill saying who i am. how many folks can get 2 IDs and a bill so that they can do their most fundamental right of voting. we stand around and allow the repubs to shout scandals, on anything obama does. yet we sit around and watch them take away our most fundamental rights, at the same time shouting freedom, liberty, constitution, and all the stuff they like to shout when they are set on taking the rights of the American people. if i ever hear a repubs shout these patriotic words again while doing the opposite i am going to shout at the top of my lungs.

    August 13, 2013 09:49 pm at 9:49 pm |
  10. Ron L

    Look at the video and you will see just how shallow the Republican argument is...112 questionable votes out of 6,600,000 votes. What a joke...they have NO shame.

    August 13, 2013 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  11. iamthestudenteconomist

    The truth is that voter fraud is terribly difficult to prove. The goal for voter reform is to ensure that all of our votes count the same and one of the best ways to do this is through establishing voter ID laws. The least we can do is establish that ID must be present at voting. Understandably, many critics voice concerns over the poor who can't afford a state ID or the cost to travel to a BMV to get one. This can be easily remedied through subsidizing the cost of a state ID for the poor. Lastly, if you can figure out a way to get to the polls to cast your vote, you can figure out a way to get to the BMV to get your free ID.

    August 13, 2013 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  12. Dallas

    S.E. is trying to defend something that doesn't even exist. Same old republican foolishness we've been listening to for years. Time to vote out all these tea bag republicans and get America back on the right track.

    August 13, 2013 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm |
  13. Just a thought

    Poor SE Cupp....she's a nice enough lady but being tied to a party rife with complete idiots, its pretty hard to sound intelligent in your arguments because....What accomplishments do the GOP/Re-dumblicans actually have? How about nada, zilch, nothing.....But watch the responses to this.....We advocate small government? When did a Re-dumblican ever put that in practice? We are the party of fiscal conservatives....When did a Re-dumblican actually reduce government spending? And don't bring up St. Ronnie.....read the numbers, if you have such a skillset.....think raising taxes twice and why he had to do that. Well, I'll help you out....Selling guns from Iran to the Contra-Rebels, illegal of course, didn't pay was well as he thought.....kinda reminds you of "the war will pay for itself" now what other Re-dumblican pres. said that(?) um..um...I can't recall

    August 13, 2013 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm |
  14. Tigas

    If they make you show your ID to vote, how can people like Melowese Richardson vote multiple time if they wanted to? How can undocumented immigrants get their votes in without a legal form if ID?

    August 13, 2013 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm |
  15. J.V.Hodgson

    All the rule changes introduced in North Carolina have the effect of being targeted at people who early vote and the student vote largely democratic by not accepting college ID there are more AND THE FACT THA MANY NON WHITES REGISTERED AND VOTED ON THE SAME DAY WHICH THEY NOW CANNOT DO
    If ID is the solution to voter fraud fine, provided it can be obtained for free ( at a local Drug store ???) as was noted there were out of almost 7,000,000 votes IN NC and 112 ALLEGED VOTER FRAUDS, VERSUS THE MANY THOUSAND OF RULE CHANGES NOT DIRECTED TO VOTER FRAUD PER SE.
    I believe this NC law change is discriminatory and therefore unconstitutional... especially as the needed way to obtain a state photo id and rules are not currently available.
    Regards,
    Hodgson

    August 14, 2013 02:14 am at 2:14 am |
  16. Marie MD

    It doesn't matter who we are, our skin color, how much or little money/education we have the ONE RIGHT we all have is our VOTING RIGHT!!!
    There are no ifs, ands or buts. PERIOD.,
    The red governor states are taking away our rights as citizens, women, seniors, poor from the ground up and nobody has been paying attention.

    August 14, 2013 06:27 am at 6:27 am |
  17. Richard Long

    if they put in these Voter Laws, how will people like Melowese Richardson be able to vote multiple times?
    How will undocumented immigrants be able to vote without a legal form of identification?

    August 14, 2013 07:09 am at 7:09 am |