Will Navy Yard rampage move the dial on gun control?
September 17th, 2013
04:20 PM ET
7 months ago

Will Navy Yard rampage move the dial on gun control?

Washington (CNN) - The national trauma inflicted by the massacre of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School prompted an emotional and fierce debate on gun control, but the drive this spring for stricter limits led by President Barack Obama fell short in Washington.

By summer, the issue had mostly faded on the political stage. It was replaced by troubling disclosures around national security leaks and U.S. surveillance, violent political turmoil in Egypt, alleged chemical weapons use in Syria, and another looming federal budget showdown.

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  1. don in albuquerque

    Probably not amount to a hill of beans. The Fascist NRA have proven they can buy whole states (Colorado has now become as disgraceful as Texas) and not just politicians. The rest of the world looks at us and shakes their head in disbelief, but....what the heck. Keep those pop guns coming. Ignore all the dead people, and children. American politics–bought and paid for.

    September 17, 2013 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  2. Wake up People!

    NO! If the pictures of 20 assassinated children didn't do it, nothing will. The NRA runs the GOP. And if anyone dares to go against them......well ask the two Congress people that just lost their jobs last week.

    Next topic.

    September 17, 2013 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  3. ThinkAgain

    Nope, because when it comes to special interests, the GOP is connected at the hip to the NRA.

    September 17, 2013 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  4. Jeff Brown in Jersey

    This Republican lead Congress don't care about human life, unless they are paid under the table.

    September 17, 2013 04:45 pm at 4:45 pm |
  5. PaulG

    I'm thinking maybe it should move the dial on how we treat people with mental health issues.

    September 17, 2013 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  6. sonny chapman

    The only hope now is on the State level. This will require guts in Red States. Blue States protect yourselves with sensible Gun Restrictions; let the Red State folks have Shoot Fests.

    September 17, 2013 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  7. Data Driven

    @Wake Up,

    "If the pictures of 20 assassinated children didn't do it, nothing will."

    It IS depressing, isn't it? But I say, keep fighting. Eyes on the prize. Let's stay after Congress on background checks to start. Vote out politicians beholden to the NRA next. (Not all are Republicans, either.). If one can afford it, donate to groups like Gabby Gifford's org so that they can afford to fight the NRA machine. Before you know it, we'll get that background check into law. And after that? A national gun registry. Removing WMD like AR-15s from nonmilitary personnel.

    It will take decades. But, eyes on the prize.

    September 17, 2013 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  8. smith

    Nope, the people of america do not want any change in gun laws. If they did you would see some change. The liberals will never learn they can`t win on this issue.

    September 17, 2013 05:00 pm at 5:00 pm |
  9. Name

    We have to keep fighting and get out and vote in 2014.....vote Tea Party, GOP, and any Democrat out of office who do not support background checks and large capacity clips. That is the only way it will get done. Vote in 2014 do not be lazy like 2010. Vote. Vote. Vote!!!!

    September 17, 2013 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  10. dudley

    Why should it move the bar?

    Guy was using a shotgun. Up to now only assault rifles and handguns have been under attack. Now shotguns? Let's call it what it is – an attack on all weapons and on the 2nd amendment. Chicago and DC – - most heavily legislated gun control areas in the country – highest gun crime and murder rates in the country. Only foolish folks ignore those stats.

    September 17, 2013 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  11. dudley

    This is the indicator: if all law enforcement agencies are willing to go gunless, then the citizens will go gunless.

    If you are not for this, then you shouldn't be for gun control.

    Hey, if it's so safe to be without one, why not have all the officials go gunless as well? Good for the goose? Good for the gander.

    September 17, 2013 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  12. CB FL

    The GOP cares more about there job than about your safety!

    September 17, 2013 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  13. the hippies were right

    The dial will never be moved towards sensible gun control. Many of our politicians are corrupt, Fox "spews" lies all day, everyday, too many people are gullible idiots. These idiots won't even agree to allow a simple background check prior to purchasing a assault rifle. They have a little saying they like to use that goes, "guns don't kill people, people kill people". But they are too ignorant to realize that the people are killing people with guns, not rocks, not sling shots, not knives, not 2×4's, not hand grenades, not bow and arrows, just guns and only guns that were never intended to be used by anyone but law enforcement or military. Humans are the lowest form of life on the planet. And the only species with the ability to be a hypocrite and hate others for not being "like them". Where the hell is planet "B"?

    September 17, 2013 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  14. don in albuquerque

    @smith–You kinda sound like the conservatives who kept telling John Adams, and Ben Franklin that good 'ole King George really loved them. Get a life, and thank a liberal that you even have a country (or religion for that matter).

    September 17, 2013 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  15. Michael Benjamin

    We need more guns, we need more guns, we need to teach the next generation to defend itself.

    September 17, 2013 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  16. Sniffit

    If 20 some-odd dismembered children didn't move the dial, nothing will until there are raging gun battles amongst the homes of the plutocrats.

    September 17, 2013 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  17. Anonymous

    Until you have legit background checks nothing will happen.

    It's not the NRA but common sense that keeps the laws they way they are.

    If you would have ever taken the time to read the last gun bill that failed just take a look at section 122 and you will see why no common sense used you can't fix stupid.

    I have no problem with background checks and a wait period but when you throw everything against the wall to see what sticks then you have a problem and that's what the last bill tried to do.

    We are just now seeing what's coming out with Obamacare and you can see why this should not have passed but when you have people like Nancy say pass the bill so we can see what's in it then you can see why you can't fix stupid. Most people did not even read the bill.

    September 17, 2013 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  18. tom l

    Amazing how much the left is politicizing this event....again. Never let a crisis go to waste, right? Never mind the fact that no background check nor ban would have prevented the events that you are using to gain a political advantage today, right?

    Oh, and he used a shotgun. That's the same shotgun that Biden suggested we should use to protect ourselves in the event an intruder entered our home. Sandy Hook would not have prevented because the shooter stole the guns he used. But those facts don't matter. You will still use these events to forward your agenda to get more gun control even though it would not have prevented any of these things from happening. So all of you talking about legislation due to this shooting have no shame. You don't care about the facts. You will leverage the dead to try to get stricter gun laws even though none of those laws would have prevented any of the events that you choose to use to get your point across. Shameful. You just want to promote your agenda.

    September 17, 2013 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  19. don in albuquerque

    Hey! tom I.....Benghhaaazzi!!! Obamacarrrrre!!!!! Toad!!!!!

    September 17, 2013 05:36 pm at 5:36 pm |
  20. rj

    Dudley is correct folks let the statistics speak for themselves, Washington, New York, and Detroit, the most gun laws and restrictions with the most gun deaths and gun related crimes. if everyone is paying any attention these crimes and murders are taking place where guns are prohibited. the 2nd Amendment gives every LEAGAL AMERICAN the right to arm and protect themselves, when a crime happens dose not matter if it is with a gun, knife, baseball bat, tire iron, car, or anything else the criminal wants to use the police WILL NOT BE THERE TILL AFTER THE ASSULT HAS HAPPENED.. no one is going to wait for you to call for help before they assault you, Don't count on the government to help GOD KNOWS THEY CANT EVEN HELP THEMSELVES...

    September 17, 2013 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  21. Sniffit

    "Never mind the fact that no background check nor ban would have prevented the events that you are using to gain a political advantage today, right? "

    Really? He purchased the guns and passed the background check like everyone else. Had he been subject to background checks that required disclosure of his arrest record and mental health status, it very well may have deterred him from his chosen course. This should be a very simple and familiar concept for the GOP/Teatrolls since they are using it so pervasively against minority, youth and "urban" voters: make something harder and harder to accomplish and some people will fail despite trying or be discouraged from brothering to even try.

    September 17, 2013 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    "Washington, New York, and Detroit, the most gun laws and restrictions with the most gun deaths and gun related crimes."

    What don't you understand about this? It's truly very simple:

    1. The STATES with the weakest gun laws have the highest per capita incidence rate of gun violence and gun injury.

    2. Gun laws are a matter of the lowest common denominator. If I live in DC and want to commit gun related crimes, all I have to do is drive a few hours to East Bumble, RedState to purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check and then take it back to DC to party down. Until we have across-the-board, nationalized, universal gun laws in this country, then the fault will rest with those places that have the weakest gun laws, enabling the continuation of the problem.

    September 17, 2013 05:44 pm at 5:44 pm |
  23. Sniffit

    oops, edit..

    "Washington, New York, and Detroit, the most gun laws and restrictions with the most gun deaths and gun related crimes."

    What don't you understand about this? It's truly very simple:

    1. The STATES with the weakest gun laws have the highest per capita incidence rate of gun violence and gun injury. Higher than the highest cities. This means, for example, that you have a higher likelihood of being shot, on purpose or by accident, in any part of states like Louisiana or Mississippi than you do in Chicago or DC.

    2. Gun laws are a matter of the lowest common denominator. If I live in DC and want to commit gun related crimes, all I have to do is drive a few hours to East Bumble, RedState to purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check and then take it back to DC to party down. Until we have across-the-board, nationalized, universal gun laws in this country, then the fault will rest with those places that have the weakest gun laws, enabling the continuation of the problem.

    September 17, 2013 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  24. tom l

    @Sniffit
    "If 20 some-odd dismembered children didn't move the dial, nothing will until there are raging gun battles amongst the homes of the plutocrats."

    Shameful. How dare you use the deaths of others to promote your agenda. No legislation would have prevented Sandy Hook. But what do you care? You will use any means necessary to promote your gun restriction laws. For the record, I don't own a gun and have never even held one in my hand.

    September 17, 2013 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |