September 18th, 2013
11:44 AM ET
5 years ago

Boehner changes plans on Obamacare and funding bill

Washington (CNN) – He never said it publicly, but it was no secret House Speaker John Boehner did not want to tie defunding Obamacare to a bill keeping the government open. It's a high stakes strategy that could end up backfiring on Republicans if the government does shut down.

But now, thanks to unrelenting pressure from conservatives, that's exactly what he's doing.

Asked if he's lost control of the Republican caucus, House Speaker John Boehner responded that he was simply listening to his fellow GOP colleagues.

"Listen. We've got a lot of divergent opinions in the caucus and the key to any leadership job is to listen," he said Wednesday.

"You know, I was here during the (Newt) Gingrich era," he continued. "He had a little plaque that was in his office. And it was a management model: 'Listen, learn, help, and leave.' We listened to our colleagues over the course of the last week. We have a plan that they're happy with. We're going forward."

Boehner and other GOP leaders had originally crafted a legislative package that would have funded the government past September 30, the end of the fiscal year, and avert a government shutdown, while voting separately to defund Obamacare so as not to tie the two votes together.

But thanks in part to an unrelenting campaign by conservative groups during the August recess to push conservatives not to fund the government without defunding Obamacare, GOP House leadership announced Wednesday they will combine the two measures into one.

Obama: Let's avoid 'apocalypse'

While the bill will likely pass the House, it has little chance of going anywhere in the Democratic-controlled Senate, increasing the chance of a government shutdown.

Boehner announced the move following a closed-door meeting with House Republicans.

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  1. Donna

    Donna, there is a verification process. Please update your Rush-approved talking points.

    Please stop lying and lisninforming peopl ein here.....

    In July, the Obama Administration quietly announced that Americans wishing to receive Obamacare benefits would be on the "honor system" when filling out income information that determines Obamacare eligibility. The anti-fraud bill, introduced by Rep. Diane Black (R-TN), would require basic verification to ensure individuals who buy insurance through the Obamacare exchanges are legally eligible to receive taxpayer-funded subsidies. The bill passed on a 235 to 191 vote.

    "Protecting American taxpayers from fraud and abuse is not a partisan issue," said Rep. Black. "Until we can repeal Obamacare, we need to protect the American taxpayers from the staggering amounts of potential fraud and abuse in the Obamacare exchanges."

    Black says fraudulent Obamacare subsidy claims could cost taxpayers up to $250 billion.

    Just five Democrats supporting the measure. Democrats say the bill is dead on arrival in the Senate.

    September 18, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  2. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    He never said it publicly, but it was no secret House Speaker John Boehner did not want to tie defunding Obamacare to a bill keeping the government open.
    -------------------------------------------------Aww! Isn't that adorable? Giving Orange-Glo a "disclaimer" right from the beginning of this "story"?
    So if he never said it publicly, where did you get this exculpatory piece of information from dear?
    And does it really matter what he said or didn't say?
    The bottom line is that the useless drunken Boo-Hoo of the House CAVED to the teatrolls and mental midgets that comprise a MINORITY in his camp.

    September 18, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  3. Gunderson

    You want what? Government Bennie's delivered on Silver Platter? Delivery Service Available. Just look in Mirror, you see.

    September 18, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  4. joe

    i'm so sick of the GOP. what a bunch of losers and whiners. they don't give a damm about our country. i will NEVER vote for a republican again. they don't get their way and they hold the entire gov't and economy hostage. what a bunch of fools.they are so radical and un-american it makes me sick to my stomach. ok, you don't agree with the DEMS and president obama but he is our president and he won the presidency twice. my gosh, get over it. if you don't like living in our country then move the hell out.

    September 18, 2013 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  5. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Look they shut it down when Bubba was president so you KNOW they've been chomping at the bit to shut it down on Barack's head.
    Come on now people, at least ACT like you know what's up.
    This is isn't about defunding the ACA. That's what they want the least intelligent amongst you to talk it up as (nice job Donna).
    This is about a few, extremely well-funded, strategically placed, Tea-infested, don't-care-a-damn-about-you-and-yours cray-crays, brought to our government courtesy of the Koch brothers, Addelsons, and political rubes and chumps of the American electorate.
    This is about making sure that in the not too distant future when people think back on the Obama era they wince and almost subconciously refrain from EVER, EVER, EVER electing someone like him again......and you all can make of that whatever the hell you will.
    Despicable and traitorous behaviour from our so-called elected officials indeed.

    September 18, 2013 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  6. Pam from Iowa

    What a worthless, spineless piece of trash you are Boehner!!!
    A typical Republican...cares only about himself.....very un-American!!!!!!
    I will take Obamacare any day over traitors like you Boehner!!!

    September 18, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  7. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    We knew republicans were krazy, but I didn't know they were suicidal.

    September 18, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  8. Donna

    Millions of people fraudulently gettin gfree cell phones at our expense.
    Classic Right-wing lie. Are they that delusional that they believe this? Or, do they think is is adult argument that supports their "case"?

    Lots of reporting about this out there. Heck, people can get multiple free phones and then sell them to support their drug or alcohol habit. You need to stop drinkin gthe koolaide and break out of the bubble you live in. ANY large federal government program is rife with fraud and abuse.

    September 18, 2013 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  9. Tampa Tim

    rs – remember 15% of republicans think Mittens Romney killed bin Laden. Delusion is their reality.

    September 18, 2013 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  10. Jobu

    I'll miss you Boehner.
    No, I won't.

    September 18, 2013 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  11. Sniffit

    "And does it really matter what he said or didn't say?"

    Nope. Boehner's total inability to distinguish between reality and fantasy leads the rest of us to have zero ability to distinguish between when he's lying or not.

    September 18, 2013 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  12. Hector Slagg

    Wake up people
    You see train wreck coming but didn't put out Red Flags? Why not. Train wreck was coming for 80 plus years and everybody knew it, but ignored it. Harry Truman used to say, The Buck Stops here. It still stops here.

    September 18, 2013 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  13. Mike in Texas

    Geez Louise Donna,

    The "ObamaPhone" rant you constantly post is a program that was started as a Lifeline Program in 1984 under Reagan, it was expanded in 1996 under Clinton and the Cell Phone piece was added in 2008 under Bush. Nothing under Obama. Also, the program is not funded with tax payer's money. It is funded through a fee assessed to telecommunications providers. The program only covers discounts for phone service. If a phone company wants to provide free phones, it is of their choosing.

    So basically the rest of your rant is baseless since your first argument "obamaphone" is a false argument and full of nothing but lies.

    Go out and do your own research and quit relying on talk radio, Fox News and blogs. It might open your eyes.

    September 18, 2013 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  14. John

    The key to leadership is LESS listening. You formulate ideas that work and you present them intelligently. Boehner is not leading, he is following.

    September 18, 2013 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  15. Reality Check

    Shut it down! This law is unpopular with the American public as shown by the polls. It is already creating a "Part Time" society. TORT Reform and the ability to purchase Health Insurance across state lines is the only solution. Obama has to stop the free handouts and seriously start working on Jobs. Obamacare destroys any possibility of a recovery.
    BTW, Obama hit a record today. Now the US has 46,496,000 in poverty. Great Job!!! This is better than his Record number of people on Food Stamps. Hmm, maybe being a community organizer doesn't qualify you for President.

    September 18, 2013 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  16. Wake up People!

    @Dominican Mama and Lynda......

    I feel like I've found two new sisters each time I read your comments. Bravo ladies, bravo.

    September 18, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  17. Rudy NYC

    History will not be kind to Speaker John Boehner. He has presided over the least productive and most destructive House sessions in the history of the United States. His leadership ability has gone from weak to meek. His negotiating skills and willing to comprimise has gone from persistent to non-existent. Most of all, he will be remembered as the Speaker who cried.

    September 18, 2013 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  18. Wes Scott

    The GOP just keeps giving us reasons to render them moot, and this is the latest. They have learned nothing from past mistakes. Now, it is time for voters to show them the door and let them go out and earn an honest living (if they can) like everybody else.

    September 18, 2013 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  19. Jim

    Boehner just ceded his last shred of credibility with respect to controlling government spending. This is all ground work for 2014.

    September 18, 2013 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  20. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Millions of people fraudulently gettin gfree cell phones at our expense
    Donna you are a liar.
    What's more you have been so emboldened by the many lies that you and others of your ilk have been allowed to post on this thread that you've lost all sense of shame and decency if you ever had any.
    On a more positive note, however, you have at least indirectly provided me with an answer to the question as to whether you and the rest of the usual suspects get paid by the hour, the post, or the lies.
    The dissemination of lies has proven quite profitable for you.

    September 18, 2013 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  21. kirk

    So their willing to roll the dice and take your chances huh? Good for you, most have figured out by now you do exactly as told by the Koch brothers, and norquist, and adleson. Now we will see if they can indeed buy an election, lord knows they are spending all their time trying, and getting paid by us to do it. Wake the hell up and vote this group of richman puppets out

    September 18, 2013 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  22. Jesse

    Actually, Speaker Boehner, your primary responsibility is to the American people, not to a few traitorous un-American wingnuts in your caucus. Say hello to your swan song, Mr Speaker, you caved in to Cruz the Cuban: "Waaah, I don't care what the law says, I WANT MY WAY!!!" Somebody give Cruz a pacifier already. Boehner will be gone soon just like Gingrich the disgraced one. And then the fun will really start with the nutcases taking over the GOP. Glad I'm an independent.

    September 18, 2013 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  23. jinx9to88

    Dems taking back the House in 2014 looks brighter and brighter everyday the GOP opens their mouths. Since when does Congress give a crap about the majority over the American people want. 90% of Americans wanted background checks on guns purchases, did that happen? Heck no!!

    September 18, 2013 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  24. M.A.P.

    Republicans should change their party name to the Old Dying White cray-cray Party. They bring shame on the American congress, shame in the h9ouse and shame on the people. Their self-serving intrerests are only based on greed and anything to discredit the first african american president. Because god knows a black man can't run the country! Bunch of jerks.

    September 18, 2013 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  25. DannyTelevision

    Appears the GOP is trying to do what Al Qaeda failed to do...shut down the USA.

    September 18, 2013 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
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