September 18th, 2013
10:13 AM ET
12 months ago

Government shutdown: Again? Seriously?

Washington (CNN) - "We've seen the movie before," Sen. John McCain said recently on CNN's "New Day."

Oh, how right you are, Senator.

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Filed under: Budget • Congress • President Obama
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  1. Tampa Tim

    My personal business suffered when our unconvicted governor and the worthless elected republicans turned their backs on 4 million uninsured Floridians, by refusing the government funding.

    September 18, 2013 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
  2. Wake up People!

    I agree Lynda. I find it scary that many people have absolutely no idea of what is going on in Washington and they don't care. I've talked to several women that I work with and they have admitted they don't follow politics and they vote for whomever their husbands or their father votes for. Unbelievable!

    September 18, 2013 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  3. rs

    Marc/Marcus-
    Thanks for posting your screed twice. Please explain how making citizens responsible for their own healthcare (a Republican call afterall since the '90s), buy buying comerically available health insurance from public and private health insurance providers is in anyway "socialistic".
    And funny, the Hospital my wife works at ardently supports the ACA because of the number of people too poor to pay their meical bills (I live in a Red state- go figure).

    September 18, 2013 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
  4. just saying

    the reason republicans get blamed is because the left's propaganda machine, aka the main street media, lies and protects them. they have been doing it for 5 years with obama. they will continue to misreport eveyrthing to the american people to protect demorcats and especially their hand picked failed president.

    September 18, 2013 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  5. Sniffit

    "The downfall of America will not be political. It will be media induced. Indeed. Our media already has way too much influence on America."

    Meanwhile, Chuck Todd is desperately trying to displace Roger Ailes as the single worst, most pathetic and disgusting person in "news" by literally arguing today that "it's not the job of the media to correct the GOP/Teatrolls' lies about [everything]." I say it again: Journalism is dead.

    September 18, 2013 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  6. ghostwriter

    Just saying........the media card is soooooo 2008....And Palin is hopefully no longer important. You can feel free to find another excuse for losing.

    September 18, 2013 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  7. Anthony

    Not only have we seen this movie before, we have seen the result before. Republicans forced government shutdowns in 1995 and 1996. They lost the 1996 election. Republicans threatened a government shutdown AND a default on the national debt in 2011, and got the sequester deal that gave Boehner 98% of what he wanted. They lost the 2012 election. Not knowing what else to do, Republicans want another government shutdown.

    We should shut down Congress until it decides to do its job, which is to write and pass a budget so that we don't have a government shutdown. The president can't cut spending, because that is Congress's job.

    September 18, 2013 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  8. okie

    So let me get this right.

    A budget is supposed to be set frth by congress. Congress in essence holds the purse stirngs, yet it's the potus' falt for signing something that the house and senate cannot agree on to put on his desk. Why has no one seemed to point this out in all the blustering. I do not blame previous administrations nor this one for the debt we owe, i blame the inadequate brain power in the chambers that are now saying, let's be labeled as deadbeats who don't repay what we borrow.

    It is indeed a sad state of the us when the obvious is somehow ignored for the grandlies that play to the uneducated and ill informed

    September 18, 2013 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  9. Hooper

    @ just saying:

    You might want to lighten up on the AM radio. It'd be helpful when making good judgments.

    September 18, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  10. okie

    Hector Slagg

    The Liberal's want to increase spending. The Conservatives want to cut spending. Aw well, after 80 plus yearts of Liberal Politics this is where we are. Broke, Destitute, and depressed. You voted for it, now live with it.
    -------------------------------------------------

    Guess the 80's, 90's and 200 don't count right?

    September 18, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  11. Lynda/Minnesota

    @Sniffit:

    I declared journalism dead the day Barrack Obama was first sworn in as President of the United States of America. Every, and I mean every, newscaster, political pundit, cable news host was given a set of memos from the Grand Old Party leadership. And each and every one of these T.V. personalities repeated that same garbage for 4 full years.

    Having shown their true agenda in 2008 ... they will now spend the next 3 years trying to prove to themselves that they got it "right" by continually mocking and criticizing all that is Obama, Michelle Obama included.

    Pathetic, you say? Oh, yes ... absolutely.

    You betcha. Add also, too.

    September 18, 2013 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  12. Sniffit

    "Guess the 80's, 90's and 200 don't count right?"

    Nope....especially the parts where St. Ronny, Bush I and Dubya increased government spending, the deficits and the national debt at far FAR greater rates than the Dem POTUSes did. Those parts of the historical record are incredibly inconvenient and must be ignored at all costs. Benghaziiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 18, 2013 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  13. rs

    The Liberal's want to increase spending. The Conservatives want to cut spending.
    _________________________
    Another Right-wing lie. Biggest federal government ever- under Bush Jr. 50% drop in the deficit – under President Obama. For the GOP, facts are just so darned inconvenient.

    September 18, 2013 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  14. Marc

    @RS, I did not mean to post twice. I wrongfully assumed my 1st post didn't make it. I apologize. It wasn't designed to annoy. I actually hit submit 3 times before I realized there was a delay. You can expect to see another duplicate. Just ignore it, so that we can debate objectively, rather than focusing on character critique.
    ----–
    To answer your question, I define Socialized Healthcare much like CATO: "Socialized medicine exists to the extent that government controls medical resources and socializes the costs."

    It's a very cut and dry definition. No semantics, no political evasion. It's a very literal definition. You're free to supply your own and we can discuss it's merits.
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    You asked how the ACA is "Socialistic". My context is not that a Socialist Government control healthcare. Germany is quite Conservative. They're a Democratic Republic, yet they have Social medicine. So, in essence, I'm not calling anyone a socialist. I'm simply calling the ACA what it is: Social Healthcare.

    Answer my counter-point: Does the Government assume control of medical resources and distribute them (directly or through proxies) at the shared cost of the tax-payer?

    September 18, 2013 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  15. Gunderson

    Oh Yes,
    Old Gunderson amazed how many want Government manage affairs. Nanny State. Now wheels come off wagon, train wreck. Like Wreck of Old 97. You think you smart. P.T Barnum right. You bought Snake Oil. You still buy Snake Oil. I guess you do need Nanny.

    September 18, 2013 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  16. Donna

    Larry in Houston
    As somebody who is in Business, I have 4 gals working for me, and I pay them 8 bucks an hour, period. I Do Not Want The Republicans in Congress to vote to Defund the ACA
    ---

    Why aren't you paying them $15 an hour like they are demanding at McDonalds. Aren't you getting rich off of them and forcing the government to provide their healthcare?

    September 18, 2013 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  17. Rudy NYC

    ust saying wrote:

    the reason republicans get blamed is because the left's propaganda machine, aka the main street media, lies and protects them. they have been doing it for 5 years with obama. they will continue to misreport eveyrthing to the american people to protect demorcats and especially their hand picked failed president.
    ---------–
    Nah. Try reading some of the right wing posts cheering for a shutdown. Try listening to some of the right wing politicians telling people that a shutdown won't be such a bad thing. Try opening your eyes to the fact that the Tea Party-controlled House rejected a compromise bill last week put forward by their own Speaker, in favor of a "our way, or the highway" terrorist-like threat to our economy. You've got one thing right. The dysfunctional and splintered Republican Party will get blamed.

    September 18, 2013 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  18. Wake up People!

    Sniffit and Lynda I couldn't agree more. I would like to say more but I dare not to......

    September 18, 2013 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  19. Pam from Iowa

    Yeah, we've seen the movie before and we know who is directing it!!!
    If the GOP wants to shut down the government for their own personal political gains, then hopefully the voters will shut them down come the next election for such anti-American acts!!!!
    and it is personal – just how much bribery money has gone under the table??? hmmmm????
    The insurance industry is a multi-billion dollar industry – so you can just about guess how much the GOP has been paid to do this!!!

    September 18, 2013 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  20. Lynda/Minnesota

    Wake up People!
    Sniffit and Lynda I couldn't agree more. I would like to say more but I dare not to.....

    Understood! In re to your other comment, I doubt it will matter if your co-workers tune in or not. By now, the damage is done. Nothing coming from the media is fact based anymore. Opinions, but nothing else.

    I do wonder though what the Chuck Todd's of America think their job descriptions entail, if not to clear up lies and misinformation perpetrated by political rhetoric. SMS because quite frankly I've given up trying to understand where we as a Nation profit from lies.

    From my perch on the fence, we have ALL suffered for GOPerville lies and dishonesty.

    September 18, 2013 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  21. Marc

    @ Pam from Iowa,
    I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you personally, but all you've supplied is a whole lot of hypothetical demonization of an entire Conservative Congress.

    We don't know if the GOP was bribed to push this agenda. I'd like to think it was the record (literally) number of voters calling their representatives to complain and encourage.
    That's something we can prove happened. The bribing, not so much. It's something you may want to be true, because it makes it easier to hate the GOP if you have actual dirt on their agenda.

    Something else we can prove is that the President, who promised to eliminate Lobbyist influence, has hired over 100 Lobbyists to work for his administration. He's also rewarding donations to his OFA campaign with quarterly, personal meetings. (You can buy his time).

    Also, while the White House is shut down to the public, over 200 Lobbyists have walked in without any problem to meet with the President.

    If you want to raise a red flag over "greedy" political motivations, why don't you criticize the executive office as much as you criticize the Legislative branch?

    September 18, 2013 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
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