Key players in the shutdown debate
September 24th, 2013
11:37 AM ET
12 months ago

What do shutdown and debt limit have to do with Obamacare?

Washington (CNN) - With a series of potential disasters hovering over the nation like a demon storm, the most prominent words of a Washington-based word cloud would be: government shutdown, continuing resolution, debt limit and Obamacare.

Although a potential shutdown and the need to raise the debt limit are different issues, they are interrelated and have one big thing in common: they are both products of a crisis manufactured by Washington. And both are being used for leverage in attempts to undermine Obamacare.

FULL STORY

Filed under: Budget • Congress • Government Shutdown • Health care
soundoff (66 Responses)
  1. Marie MD

    NOTHING!!!
    It's a power play of the teatards against the country they profess to love so much.
    If I hear the drunken weeper or the Canadian from Texas one more time talking about the will of the American people I hope they internally explode before finishing the sentence.
    From some of the comments here is faux news sending their crazies over to CNN?

    September 24, 2013 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  2. vikingwoman

    Demon Storm!? What a perfect analogy for what the Ttrolls are doing to us & US (&even their own party)! The ACA has Not A Durn Thing to do w/debt limits or threatning a shutdown! It's simply a tool used to gov-jack & hold us all hostage! It's despi.cable behavior of rich fatcats who don't have to worry about anything in their cushy lives, that they live on our dime, except that lunacy that comes out of their mouths! & they seem to be good w/that! Instead of working For the country & its citizens, they want to keep seniors from their paltry, yet much needed SS checks & 30+mil people from having insurance & access to healthcare! In church, (a subject these people claim as a field of expertise), we would definitely say a person who behaves this way has been inhabited by a demon & we'd pray over them! In this case only a mass exorcism at the voting booth will help!!

    September 24, 2013 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  3. Wake up People!

    Just an average guy is just an average liar.

    September 24, 2013 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  4. TONE

    The right wingers on here are clearly out of their minds with the garbage they spew on this post i wonder what the garbage will be when the Dems take the house back come, and gain more senate seats come 2014.

    September 24, 2013 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  5. Tampa Tim

    I give @justanaverageguy a D- making him well below average.

    September 24, 2013 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  6. TONE

    I mean take the house back, and gain more senate seats come 2014

    September 24, 2013 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  7. Sniffit

    "totally destroy what used to be the greatest country ever to exist. "

    Same things were said about Medicare, Medicaid, SS, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, allowing minorities to vote, allowing bi-racial marriage, the creation of public school systems, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. There isn't enough yawn in the universe to fill the massive, vacuous black hole of boring you guys have dug.

    September 24, 2013 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  8. just saying

    rs
    Just Sayin-
    Here is a nugget from the CBO's blog on the cost of recinding the ACA:
    "But the net costs of repealing the other provisions of the ACA were estimated last year to total about $1.3 trillion for the 2013–2022 period"
    ---–

    you dolt!! that money is all the taxes that the government will not get (21 new taxes in obamacare!) when it is repealed!! that is not a cut in costs of anything! it is money tax payers will keep in their pocket to feed their families. egads you are clueless.

    September 24, 2013 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  9. anonymous

    Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes
    What does the budget & debt limit have to do with the law of the land, Affordable Care Act? Not a darn thing. This are self made crisis manufactured by republicans. End of story.
    ---

    typical low information democrat voter. obamacare requires money to implement, money that must be allocated in the budget by law. obamacare costs have tripled since the nation was lied to in 2010 and it will thus add to our deficits, and our debt, which is funded by our borrowing, aka the debt limit. now please try to educat eyourself on how the government works and just what a disaster obamacare is financially. but i'm sure you don't care as you will probably be one of the healthcare freeriders.

    September 24, 2013 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  10. Jeff Brown in Jersey

    @Hector Slagg
    Simply big government policies that have been put in place over the last 80 plus years, (All with the best intentions) that have been fiscal glaring failures. So the talking is over. It is time to put up or shut up. Do we continue the rising Federal Debt or start to balance the books.

    OK Hector... Do we balance the budget in a mature manner by cutting tax loopholes for the rich and stop subsidizing huge conglomerates? Or do we cut food to the poorest kids in America?

    September 24, 2013 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  11. Phyllis Gwendoline Williams

    "shutdown" is merely a Plot of those who do not mind destroying themselves and their Country if they can destroy
    one man ,their President, who is saying in other words "BE merciful unto me, O GOD: for man would swallow me up;
    he fighting daily oppresseth me" (Psalm 56: 1)

    September 24, 2013 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  12. just saying

    you force them to vote for obamacare.... so what? most of them already did so what will change?

    I say adjourn the house until the democrats pass the bill that was sent to them. the house speaks for the people and the people do not want obamacare. i'd rather see a government that does not represent the will of the people shut down rather than allow it to continue to jam this bs down our throats. it is time that the people draw a red line and not back down.

    September 24, 2013 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  13. tom l

    Still over 25MM people will be without insurance. How does this help again?

    September 24, 2013 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  14. kirk

    Absolutely clueless, so the koch brothers are fighting this to help the people? Man, can you say that with a straight face? Keep voting gop, and coincidently, continue to have your standard of living attacked: the evidence is there, the policies are promoted by the rich for what reason again?

    September 24, 2013 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  15. Sniffit

    "you dolt!! that money is all the taxes that the government will not get (21 new taxes in obamacare!) when it is repealed!! that is not a cut in costs of anything! it is money tax payers will keep in their pocket to feed their families. egads you are clueless."

    Proving you haven't even read the study report and are just making it up as you go along to affirm your cartoon version of reality.

    September 24, 2013 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  16. NameLindaHardge

    The tea party voted a Canadian into the U S Senate fron Texas. You got what you voted for; A Canadian goose that laid out rotten words and eggs on behalf of the Republican Party. Howdy folks from Texas!

    September 24, 2013 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
1 2 3