Fact Check: Poor people will be left out in some states
September 25th, 2013
04:10 PM ET
1 year ago

Fact Check: Poor people will be left out in some states

ASSERTION:
In many states, people living below the poverty line will not be covered by expanded Medicaid, and won’t receive subsidies to buy private coverage, either.

Former president Bill Clinton at a September 24, 2013 Clinton Global Initiative event: “Lower income people who desperately need health insurance will have the cruelest of all situations, and there’s nothing the president can do about it.”

FACTS:
The 2012 Supreme Court decision allowed states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion that is part of the Affordable Care Act. Even though the federal government would provide 100% of the funding through 2016 and phasing down to 90% by 2020, at least 20 states have declined to expand their Medicaid programs. Others are still debating it. Because the original law did not envision this possibility, many adults below the poverty line in states that don’t expand Medicaid will not be eligible either for a subsidy or for Medicaid. (In states that are expanding Medicaid, everyone with incomes up to 138% of poverty will be eligible for Medicaid and those above 138% of poverty will be eligible for subsidies.)

However, the administration has said poor people in non-expansion states will not face a tax penalty, if they choose not to purchase insurance.

VERDICT:
True.


Filed under: Fact Check Obamacare • Health care • Medicaid
soundoff (16 Responses)
  1. Sniffit

    In other words, in order to give themselves this talking point, which is admittedly true, the GOP/Teatrolls in control of 20 states deliberately refused to expand Medicaid so that poor people would fall through the cracks.

    a/k/a the GOP/Teatrolls modus operandi: breaking government to prove it's broken.

    September 25, 2013 04:13 pm at 4:13 pm |
  2. Wake up People!

    Blame the GOP governors!

    September 25, 2013 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  3. Tony

    "The administration has said poor people in non-expansion states will not face a tax penalty, if they choose not to purchase insurance."

    In other words, in states that choose not to expand Medicaid, Obamacare is effectively repealed for poor people. (Hint to Tea Partiers: if you are poor, you don't need to shut down the government or cause the government to default on its debt to avoid Obamacare.) Poor people in those states will continue to have the "freedom" of not having health insurance. They don't need to pay the tax penalty either. If poor people in states that choose not to expand Medicaid get tired of their "freedom" of not having health insurance, they need to move to states that will expand Medicaid.

    September 25, 2013 04:34 pm at 4:34 pm |
  4. Data Driven

    FACT! - states that opt out will have more poor people without health insurance!

    September 25, 2013 04:35 pm at 4:35 pm |
  5. The Real Tom Paine

    Hey, if you don't set it up, how do you expect things to improve? Simple cause and effect, but, as usual, that confuses the righties.

    September 25, 2013 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  6. Anonymous

    "Blame the GOP governors".

    Believe me, I blame Perry for sure. But that is also why Cruz, who represents Texas, should have spent his
    time helping the uninsured in Texas instead of beating them over the head with his 21 hour charade.
    While he read his darling daughters a bedtime story, do think for one minute the plight of the children of
    Texas ever entered his mind? Not by a long shot (which fits him since he is totally for the NRA).
    He is pure elitist and is all out for himself................period!

    September 25, 2013 04:43 pm at 4:43 pm |
  7. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    Sniffit hit the nail on the head. the poor will be left out due to some states with republican governors not expanding their Medicaid rolls. FACT!

    September 25, 2013 04:45 pm at 4:45 pm |
  8. jinx9to88

    @ Data Driven – your right its a fact, but its the states Governers that choose to have poor people without. Did you actually read the article?

    September 25, 2013 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  9. Lynda/Minnesota

    Red state governors to poor people: screw you.

    September 25, 2013 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  10. Sniffit

    "If poor people in states that choose not to expand Medicaid get tired of their "freedom" of not having health insurance, they need to move to states that will expand Medicaid."

    That's precisely what the red state righties hope they will do. Add in that most RWNJs equate being poor and on Medicaid with being a minority and you start to get the picture.

    September 25, 2013 04:55 pm at 4:55 pm |
  11. Gurgyl

    Not only blame GOP governors–but also fire them in next election replace to all DEMOCRATIC ONES.

    September 25, 2013 05:00 pm at 5:00 pm |
  12. Tony

    Sniffit, if enough poor people move out of the red states, Republicans may lose control of the House, and it will be tougher for Republicans to win the Electoral College.

    September 25, 2013 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  13. Lynda/Minnesota

    Vince
    Imagine what our country could be like if people like this were as passionate about feeding the hungry, creating jobs, stopping violence, etc...you know...stuff that actually matters.

    The days of helping our neighbors is long over. If you spend anytime reading comments from the right wing, these people are for real. They are absolutely FOR corporate greed (401k investments depend on screwing workers).

    The next market crash will be end of the corporate take over of the United States of America. There will be no bailout dollars sufficient enough to prop up the paper portfolios of hundreds of millions of Americans.

    September 25, 2013 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  14. Name jk. Sfl. GOP conservatives,the garbage of America.

    Florida, Scott and the GOP legislature down here refuse to coperate with the healthcare law and these gop teaparty stooges let the insurance companies jack up the rates sky high. Wait until 2014 when when all the other states that co operated have lower rates and the GOP is shown for the fraud it is!!!!we are going to clean house of the GOP down here in 2014 midterms, AND WE DIDNT FORGET THE LINES!!!!!

    September 25, 2013 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  15. Tampa Tim

    Red states will have high premiums because they have opted out of the exchanges. I am going to miss right wingnut bagger Rick Scott in the election when he loses to Charlie Crist. We need common sense, not tea baggers.

    September 25, 2013 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  16. Sniffit

    "Sniffit, if enough poor people move out of the red states, Republicans may lose control of the House, and it will be tougher for Republicans to win the Electoral College."

    Certainly could lose them House Reps based on decrease in population. But you get my point (and hey, I didn't say they'd succeed in creating these little diaspora, just that it's part of what they hope and intend). Part of what they're desperately trying to do in response to demographic shifts is protect the redness of their red states. Measures designed to make it distinctly unpleasant to stay in the state if you are in a demographic that tends to vote Dem are part of that.

    September 25, 2013 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |