September 30th, 2013
11:46 AM ET
7 months ago

Live: Federal government shutdown begins

– The U.S. government shutdown went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET Tuesday after lawmakers in the House and the Senate could not agree on a spending bill to fund the government.
– See how shutdown could affect you; and see what will be closed; what will be open.
– Senate on Tuesday morning rejected another GOP measure that would have altered Obamacare, and a House GOP request to negotiate differences.
– President Barack Obama: Shutdown is the "height of irresponsibility." | Transcript
– Congress managed to pass a bill that would allow members of the military to continue receiving pay during shutdown.
– Updates below; also, check out our full story.


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  1. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    House has passed spending bill that would delay Obamacare and repeal its tax on medical devices.
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    And what you fail to mention is that repealing the tax on medical devices will add $38 billion dollars to the deficit. If you're going to call yourself a news organization, tell us ALL THE FACTS!!!!

    September 30, 2013 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  2. Sniffit

    The Senate is going to table the House's bill that attempts to delay and defund the ACA, and the House is going to end up voting on the Senate's "clean" bill. Perhaps they'll throw a tantrum over it, letting the gov't shut down for a couple days, but they'll be eating their crow soon enough. Nom nom...eat up, neo-birchers.

    September 30, 2013 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  3. Donna

    Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes
    House has passed spending bill that would delay Obamacare and repeal its tax on medical devices.
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    And what you fail to mention is that repealing the tax on medical devices will add $38 billion dollars to the deficit. If you're going to call yourself a news organization, tell us ALL THE FACTS!!!!
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    Well DUH!!! Of course the reason the deficit exists is because the American people aren't paying $3.5 TRILLION in taxes instead of the $2.5 TRILLION they are paying. So let's tax all the federal income tax free riders their fair share and get rid of the deficit?

    Or of course you could always CUT some of those enormous federal government waste programs. But the Democrats and liberals think every single penny in a $3.5 TRILLION spending orgy is absolutely necessary or babies, old people and the poor will be starving and dying in the streets by the millions.

    September 30, 2013 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
  4. Sniffit

    "Well DUH!!! Of course the reason the deficit exists is because the American people aren't paying $3.5 TRILLION in taxes instead of the $2.5 TRILLION they are paying. So let's tax all the federal income tax free riders their fair share and get rid of the deficit?"

    Irrelevant, tangential response is irrelevant and tangential.

    September 30, 2013 11:59 am at 11:59 am |
  5. just saying

    a shut down of the federal government that doesn't represent the will of the people is necessary and warranted.

    most of the american people never asked for, not want obamacare. it was a far left disaster that will cost over $2 trillion and will wreck our healthcare system in the process, as well as destroy full time jobs. you know when even the supporters of this fiasco call it a train wreck and use words like nightmare scenarios, the program is disaster.

    house republicans need to stick to their positions and shut the government down for as long as it takes to get rid of or delay this destruction of our healthcare system. the american people stand behind them 150%.

    September 30, 2013 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  6. Handiman

    The President has already delayed the employer mandate; delaying the individual mandate is fair and equitable. The Republican-led House of Representatives has submitted a CR that funds the entire government TWICE now, and we all expect the Senate to again strip out the individual mandate delay and medical devices tax repeal when they send it back to the House. Who will be responsible for shutting down the government? It is the Democrats in the Senate.

    September 30, 2013 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  7. Anonymous

    "house republicans need to stick to their positions and shut the government down for as long as it takes to get rid of or delay this destruction of our healthcare system"

    Yes they should stick to their principles. Nothing spells disaster for the GOP then watching the house republicans stick to their positions by shutting the government down - leading me to ask "are you a democratic plant"? There is nothing that you ever comment on that is positive to the republican platform. If anything, you make a good case against voting republican.

    September 30, 2013 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  8. Daniel

    A small Republican Koch funded tea party minority want to extort Republican pet projects out of our government. Negotiating with Republicans is like negotiating with a rock. They are just plain intractable. With the deficit falling faster than anytime since WW2, Republicans barely have a chair to sit in at the negotiating table. Yet they are prepared to shut the whole government down and have our countries credit rating lowered just to get a tiny little, albeit loud and angry minority, a few bread crumbs.

    The Republican Party’s overt hatred for our President is no excuse. It’s time Republicans grow up. You can’t hold our entire economy prisoner for your corporate giveaways!

    This is all over a health care law that Republican Mitt Romney signed into law in MA, that the conservative Heritage Foundation promoted, but only now is worthy of bringing our entire country’s credit rating down? Didn't the SCOTUS uphold the law?

    Maybe this is Republicans secret plan to bring on more cuts! Bring on another sequester!! We do need more defense spending cuts! Cut that wasteful fat!!

    Thanks Heritage Foundation!!! We couldn't have done it without you!!!

    September 30, 2013 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  9. Rudy NYC

    just saying

    a shut down of the federal government that doesn't represent the will of the people is necessary and warranted.
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    I used to think that the will of your people was that people should take responsibility for their own lives. That they should stop freeloading off of the backs of others. That they should get a job, instead of living off of handouts. I guess that holds true for jobs and food, but it doesn't hold for health care. That is is perfectly fine to walk into a public hospital, without any health insurance, and get free treatment for your ailments. Do I have it right?

    September 30, 2013 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  10. mark

    I am retired, living on a small fixed in come and my mutual fund income. This month, the GOPers in congress have cost me about $2500 because of their egotistical nonsense. I am using a lot of what remains of my investments to help to defeat every possible republican in the upcoming elections, not only in my state, but anywhere there is a close race.
    This has become my hobby and my passion, and I hope to encourage many more decent people to vote against every GOPer seeking office anywhere.

    September 30, 2013 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  11. Sniffit

    "The President has already delayed the employer mandate; delaying the individual mandate is fair and equitable. "

    No it's not. Those two things may both be "mandates" but aside from that one word, they have nothing to do with one another, are completely and utterly different things and play completely and utterly different roles in the ACA. The analogy is entirely broken and represents nothing more than more of the GOP/Teatrolls' superficial bumper-sticker rhetoric that the MSM helps them sell by refusing to look under the hood. You're comparing apples to steaks.

    September 30, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  12. Donna

    Sniffit
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    "Well DUH!!! Of course the reason the deficit exists is because the American people aren't paying $3.5 TRILLION in taxes instead of the $2.5 TRILLION they are paying. So let's tax all the federal income tax free riders their fair share and get rid of the deficit?"
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    Irrelevant, tangential response is irrelevant and tangential.
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    Another in the long line of usual Sniffin drivel responses with no content or facts. I wasn't aware that anybody appointed you the judge of others posts. If anything is irrelevant, it is responses such as yours. But when you have no facts on your side, I guess that drivel is all you have left.

    September 30, 2013 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  13. megyese

    Here is the problem the dems. They heve never wanted anything. All they want is to spend. They are they problem. Keep fighting for us replubic. Dems need to get rid of obama care it is hurting the american people.

    September 30, 2013 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  14. James Price

    Today has reminded me of Neil Kinnock’s (UK Labour leader) famous 1985 Bournemouth speech “No matter how entertaining, how fulfilling to short-term egos, you can’t play politics with people’s jobs and with people’s services or with their homes”.

    September 30, 2013 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  15. Jay

    Congress passed Obamacare, the president signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it, Obama campaigned on it a second time and was reelected. So in what manner was the will of the people disregarded?

    September 30, 2013 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  16. Gene

    Ironic to me that the IRS employees and consulatnts supporting the rollout of the program are considered essential and therefore will continue to be at work and get paid, while others providing useful services to citizen's are furloughed.

    September 30, 2013 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  17. just saying

    Rudy NYC
    just saying
    a shut down of the federal government that doesn't represent the will of the people is necessary and warranted.
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    I used to think that the will of your people was that people should take responsibility for their own lives. That they should stop freeloading off of the backs of others. That they should get a job, instead of living off of handouts. I guess that holds true for jobs and food, but it doesn't hold for health care. That is is perfectly fine to walk into a public hospital, without any health insurance, and get free treatment for your ailments. Do I have it right?
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    there are already things in place to take care of situations where people get medical treatment when they don't have insurance. the hospitals pursue legal remedies for people who don't pay their bills. poor people who can't pay should be covered by medicaid.

    people in this country don't need government to dictate every aspect of their lives to them. we have almost no freedom left in this country. we all are surely unknowingly breaking 2-3 laws a day. every new law spawns tens, hundreds, thousands of new rules and regulations. it is a total nightmare at this point. and now obamacare has added another 20,000 pages or rules and regulations for our healthcare system. total insanity.

    but where is your concern for the tens of millions of federal income tax free riders when our country is running trillion dollar deficits? please be consistent in enforcing personnel responsibility. do they not have an obligation to support this country, if even with a token tax payment?

    September 30, 2013 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  18. rs

    megyese

    Here is the problem the dems. They heve never wanted anything. All they want is to spend. They are they problem. Keep fighting for us replubic. Dems need to get rid of obama care it is hurting the american people.
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    Too bad the only proof to your last statement is Republican talking points, because the FACTS are different. As far as the parties go, here's another fact: ending the ACA NOW will raise the debt and the defict of the U.S. So, which party spends more?

    September 30, 2013 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  19. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Jay

    Congress passed Obamacare, the president signed it, the Supreme Court upheld it, Obama campaigned on it a second time and was reelected. So in what manner was the will of the people disregarded?
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    In no way that they can rationally and factually explain Jay, thus the lies that fill this thread.

    September 30, 2013 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  20. rs

    Ironic to me that the IRS employees and consulatnts supporting the rollout of the program are considered essential and therefore will continue to be at work and get paid, while others providing useful services to citizen's are furloughed.
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    Yeah, funny how the government needs money to run. The GOP hasn't figured that out yet.

    September 30, 2013 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  21. CA Independent

    Obamacare is a mess. It's not ready for implementation in any sense of the word. Obama is essentially telling the American people to bend over and take it. Are there good elements? Sure, but there are also huge problems that are not resolved. Obama's response? Tough, live with it. Sorry, I don't buy into the no negotiations stance of Obama here. We don't want a shutdown, but even more we don't want to pay 2-3 times what we are paying now for insurance.

    September 30, 2013 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  22. Data Driven

    @just saying,

    "A shutdown of the federal government that doesn't represent the will of the people is necessary and warranted" etc etc to the end of your post.

    The post doesn't sound like you, Just Saying. I can tell because there aren't multiple exclamation points and you don't call liberals names.

    Friday you copy/pasted a piece from the WSJ's opinion pages without attribution, Just Saying. Which piece is today's post from?

    September 30, 2013 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  23. just asking

    Gene
    Ironic to me that the IRS employees and consulatnts supporting the rollout of the program are considered essential and therefore will continue to be at work and get paid, while others providing useful services to citizen's are furloughed.
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    the confiscation of large parts of your income by the government will continue uninterrupted of course. the money will pile up as the government isn't paying bills. the beast will continue to feed, that and death are the only sure things in life. i'm sure obama and the leftists will make any government shutdown as painful as possible in order to punish the american people. all in order to further jam a train wreck down our throats, one we never asked for or wanted.

    September 30, 2013 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  24. Matt Davidson

    I don't think I can justify voting for Republican anymore. They used to be a powerhouse, getting things done when they needed to get done. Now because of this tea party I just can't. The fact that on their side the argument is to "save" them money yet somehow justify causing an economic collapse with a government shutdown and cost hundreds of thousands of people to lose money shows how greedy the tea party truly is.

    The tea party managed to gather the ignorance, is influenced by the rich, and call themselves "patriots" when they chant "no compromise" yet somehow are pro democracy. I guess they don't know what a democracy is.

    September 30, 2013 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  25. rs

    but where is your concern for the tens of millions of federal income tax free riders when our country is running trillion dollar deficits? please be consistent in enforcing personnel responsibility. do they not have an obligation to support this country, if even with a token tax payment?
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    While you toss out "responsibilities" JS- what about those Eisenhower years top income brackets? They were 87-90%. Think we should reinstate those? You'll get way more money from them (and the 25% of corporations that pay no taxes at all than the pennies and dimes you'll get from those living below the poverty level. Als0- I'd guess you'd go after the old folks and their Social Security too, eh?

    September 30, 2013 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
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