September 30th, 2013
11:46 AM ET
7 months ago

Live: Federal government shutdown begins

– The U.S. government shutdown went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET Tuesday after lawmakers in the House and the Senate could not agree on a spending bill to fund the government.
– See how shutdown could affect you; and see what will be closed; what will be open.
– Senate on Tuesday morning rejected another GOP measure that would have altered Obamacare, and a House GOP request to negotiate differences.
– President Barack Obama: Shutdown is the "height of irresponsibility." | Transcript
– Congress managed to pass a bill that would allow members of the military to continue receiving pay during shutdown.
– Updates below; also, check out our full story.


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  1. Jl/South Carolina

    Well I hope they are happy all members of Congress; if it wasn't for the 27th Amendment they would would be without pay like the nearly 1 million workers who will be furloughed for how long we don't know and not to mention to mention our weak economy. Congressmen and Senators I hope you are all propud of yourselves and I think each member should contribute 75% of their paychecks to the workers who will now have to find others ways to pay their bills and most will probably lose their homes. I personally think we need to adfopt a plan to make sure that members of Congress should also be furloghed without pay or benefits.

    October 1, 2013 09:39 am at 9:39 am |
  2. HenryMiller

    " President Barack Obama said from the White House that a federal shutdown would throw a wrench into the gears of the economy and represent the "height of irresponsibility.""

    Yeah, and the "sequester" was going to ruin the economy too.

    Democrats apparently go into panic mode when they're forced to quit spending other peoples' money.

    October 1, 2013 09:41 am at 9:41 am |
  3. Data Driven

    A lot of complaints about Congresscritters getting paid. Well, we can't do anything about that. We'd need 2/3 states' ratification to revoke the 27th Amendment. In this climate?

    Rather, let's focus our anger on one unrelenting, unwavering goal: getting rid of the individuals in Congress who are responsible for this fiasco: the GOP.

    October 1, 2013 09:44 am at 9:44 am |
  4. R

    When the Fall of Great America comes – you can thank the Republicans

    October 1, 2013 09:46 am at 9:46 am |
  5. tom l

    Just to show the hypocrisy on both sides, how many liberals were on here complaining when the House left on Friday? Were you same people complaining when Harry Reid did not have the senate in session on Sunday? Thought not.

    October 1, 2013 09:46 am at 9:46 am |
  6. Data Driven

    @HenryMiller,

    "Yeah, and the "sequester" was going to ruin the economy too."

    Cuidado, Henry. The sequester has been shown to have slowed economic growth. Google up the studies.

    October 1, 2013 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  7. Lynda/Minnesota

    "Their re-election is almost guaranteed you see."

    I'm sitting back and watching this one play itself out. I tried to comment on another article over the consequences paid when one political party becomes too controlling. I gave a few examples where the populace has stood united and said enough is enough. This little fiasco really isn't about Obamacare and never was. It is about political control of our government. Ted Cruz might be able to control Republicans in Congress as it sits today. What happens in 2014 is another story. I personally don't think America is ready or willing to support Ted Cruz and his brand of politics. Moderates are funny that way. They allow one to go only so far, and then step up to the plate when folks become too greedy, too selfish, too controlling.

    Obamacare is not the problem. It is an excuse to work emotions to a level of frenzy I haven't seen in quite some time. It is not a voting issue. At least not in the way TeaPers are trying so very hard to make it out to be.

    October 1, 2013 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  8. A True Conservative

    "When the Fall of Great America comes – you can thank the Republicans"

    No we can thank the millions of Americans who voted themselves benefits from the public treasury. Politicians buying votes will be the downfall of this nation. BTW – look at how many times the Democrats have forced a government shutdown – it’s not just Republicans and, in fact, the Dems are currently in the lead for number of shutdowns!

    October 1, 2013 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  9. Data Driven

    @A True Conservative,

    "No we can thank the millions of Americans who voted themselves benefits from the public treasury."

    Better us than the usual parasitical plutocrats who usually get the benefits from the public treasury. OUR public treasury, by the way. The one that exists because of OUR labor.

    October 1, 2013 09:57 am at 9:57 am |
  10. The Real Tom Paine

    -tom l

    Just to show the hypocrisy on both sides, how many liberals were on here complaining when the House left on Friday? Were you same people complaining when Harry Reid did not have the senate in session on Sunday? Thought not.
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    On Sunday, most people were out enjoying the weekend, so they were not on here commenting. As to whether or not they approved of Reid's decision, I doubt it. I certainly did not, but did the House present them with anything worthwhile to warrant coming in? Apparently not. Btw, you're really groping around for things to complain about.

    October 1, 2013 09:57 am at 9:57 am |
  11. The Real Tom Paine

    -A True Conservative

    "When the Fall of Great America comes – you can thank the Republicans"

    No we can thank the millions of Americans who voted themselves benefits from the public treasury. Politicians buying votes will be the downfall of this nation. BTW – look at how many times the Democrats have forced a government shutdown – it’s not just Republicans and, in fact, the Dems are currently in the lead for number of shutdowns!
    ********************
    So, keeping up the rightie fiction that its people who've drawn on the money that has been set aside for them in their own paychecks through SS and unemployment that are the problem?

    October 1, 2013 10:00 am at 10:00 am |
  12. tom l

    @The Real TP,
    Yeah, sometimes I can get nit-picky and this is probably one of those times. I can't help it. There is so much incredible hypocrisy by both parties it's nauseating. Read my comment at 9:25am on page 26 of these comments. I would be interested to hear your thoughts. I would be interested to hear what you have to say.

    Please realize that I did find it typical when Boehner would not introduce the bill. However, it's typical because that is a common tactic used by both sides. So to hear the complaining over that is not surprising to me. But it is hypocritical. Harry Reid has done this on several occasions. Please try to remember around election time in 2012 when Reid wouldn't bring many bills to the floor for a vote for fear of democrats being on record for voting for or voting against something that would be politically damaging. That's why both parties are bad.

    October 1, 2013 10:04 am at 10:04 am |
  13. Jean Sartre

    Little factoid: it took over 200-years for congress to pass the 27th Amendment...

    October 1, 2013 10:05 am at 10:05 am |
  14. Rudy NYC

    Lynda wrote on page 27:

    I'm sitting back and watching this one play itself out. I tried to comment on another article over the consequences paid when one political party becomes too controlling. I gave a few examples where the populace has stood united and said enough is enough. This little fiasco really isn't about Obamacare and never was. It is about political control of our government. Ted Cruz might be able to control Republicans in Congress as it sits today. What happens in 2014 is another story. I personally don't think America is ready or willing to support Ted Cruz and his brand of politics. Moderates are funny that way. They allow one to go only so far, and then step up to the plate when folks become too greedy, too selfish, too controlling.
    -------------------------–
    Salute that! It bears repeating. Republicans have no wish to govern, they want to rule.

    October 1, 2013 10:05 am at 10:05 am |
  15. just saying

    this is what happens when you try to shove a massive new government entitlement program, that wrecks the healthcare system in the process, down the throat of the american people. they voted for the people in the house for two elections now. they were elected in reaction to obamacare when the american people removed record numbers of democrats from office. they have been kept in office to stop the disaster known as obamacare. i thank them for doing their job. keep up the good work.

    the american people still don't want obamacare with the numbers climbing with every disclosure of the mess it truly is. stand firm.

    October 1, 2013 10:10 am at 10:10 am |
  16. Sniffit

    Dems have requested conference 18 times on the budget since April and the GOP/Teatrolls have refused to negotiate every single time...but NOW they suddenly want to conference on it and complain that they're being refused? What a load of malarkey. Enjoy your shutdown tantrum, GOPers/Teatrolls...you own the lion's share of this and its fallout. Have fun with the backlash, you nihilist anarchist neo-bircher obstructionist puppets of the plutocrat class.

    October 1, 2013 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  17. Sniffit

    "they voted for the people in the house for two elections now"

    The GOP/Teatrolls kept the House in 2012 by winning a minority of the votes, all through the magic of gerrymandering. They were not "sent there by a majority of America to do X, Y and Z"...not in any way, shape or form.

    October 1, 2013 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  18. James Morland

    Keep it shut down until they adopt a balanced budget amendment, reform the tax code and cut government jobs !! They need to run it somewhat like a business !!!!!!!!!

    October 1, 2013 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  19. Data Driven

    @Jean Sartre,

    "Little factoid: it took over 200-years for congress to pass the 27th Amendment..."

    Yeah, that's the one they were most embarrassed about. The fact that is passed in 1992 merely shows how brazen the politicians have become in recent decades, mostly because of a friendly media who works hand-in-hand with them, rather than reporting ON them.

    There was little to no controversy when the 27th passed.

    October 1, 2013 10:19 am at 10:19 am |
  20. Lynda/Minnesota

    "the american people still don't want obamacare with the numbers climbing with every disclosure of the mess it truly is. stand firm."

    If this is truly the case when Obamacare is fully implemented in 2014, then yes, you will be proven correct. Today Obamacare exchanges officially begin in earnest. Should it fall, it will then become a mighty political tool for the Grand Old Party in future elections. If, however, Obamacare proves to be beneficial to voters, the hoopla will die down and many millions of people will have been helped.

    I say we let Obamacare stand or fall on its own merits.

    October 1, 2013 10:22 am at 10:22 am |
  21. Data Driven

    @James Morland,

    "balanced budget amendment"

    LOL, THAT again? Let's throw in the "flag-burning amendment" while we're at it. We'll party like it's 1989!

    "They need to run it somewhat like a business !!!!!!!!!"

    Government is not a "business", though. Government is supposed to defend the nation and serve the public. Government should be run like government.

    October 1, 2013 10:22 am at 10:22 am |
  22. steve

    this falls on Obama and his cronnies...He is to blame u dems own the house/senate and u still cannot pass anything...and as for meeting sniffit where do u get this and how come Obama and the sec state Kerry (losers) are still going overseas and who paying for it...and this is not the first shutdown nor will it be the last...the only reason dems are up in arms is they cannot spend any of OUR money fooleshly...oh wait they still are...KICK them all out and start anew both parties should be ashamed not just the dems...

    October 1, 2013 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  23. Chuck Nickles

    I find it sad that Congress as a whole "Always" votes to exempt themselves for any law passed...ie...the 27th Amendment. And you will not see them, (or the President) waive a paycheck during this shutdown...We are expected to balance our checkbook every month while working within our budget...but our own government can't....

    October 1, 2013 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  24. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    What happens in 2014 is another story. I personally don't think America is ready or willing to support Ted Cruz and his brand of politics. Moderates are funny that way. They allow one to go only so far, and then step up to the plate when folks become too greedy, too selfish, too controlling.

    Obamacare is not the problem. It is an excuse to work emotions to a level of frenzy I haven't seen in quite some time. It is not a voting issue. At least not in the way TeaPers are trying so very hard to make it out to be.
    -------------------------------------------------
    Well from your mouth to the voters and God's ears Lynda.
    My experience with this fickle American electorate is that they tend to forget. They are easily distracted and manipulated into voting people in that do not have their best interest at heart when it comes to electing their congressmen and senators. Some believe they are actually making a statement of sorts by staying home.
    So we will see how this plays out in 2014. If it is a repeat performance of our short-sightedness and amnesia like 2010 was then we're screwed.
    I'm praying for your moderate cavalry to come charging in and take back their Party from the power-driven cray-crays.

    October 1, 2013 10:34 am at 10:34 am |
  25. David

    The old saying whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander, if this healthcare plan is so good for the US then how come the Democrats don't want it?

    October 1, 2013 10:38 am at 10:38 am |
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