September 30th, 2013
11:46 AM ET
7 months ago

Live: Federal government shutdown begins

– The U.S. government shutdown went into effect at 12:01 a.m. ET Tuesday after lawmakers in the House and the Senate could not agree on a spending bill to fund the government.
– See how shutdown could affect you; and see what will be closed; what will be open.
– Senate on Tuesday morning rejected another GOP measure that would have altered Obamacare, and a House GOP request to negotiate differences.
– President Barack Obama: Shutdown is the "height of irresponsibility." | Transcript
– Congress managed to pass a bill that would allow members of the military to continue receiving pay during shutdown.
– Updates below; also, check out our full story.


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soundoff (969 Responses)
  1. Data Driven

    @Steve,

    "Dems own the house/senate"

    Incorrect. The GOP "owns" the House; hence the current crisis.

    "Sniffit where do get this"

    Sniffit, if I may speak for him, gets his information from the actual historical record rather than from political entertainers on TV and radio. As do many of us who seek the truth. Try it yourself; it'll open your eyes!

    October 1, 2013 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  2. Rudy NYC

    Sniffit wrote on page 27:

    Dems have requested conference 18 times on the budget since April and the GOP/Teatrolls have refused to negotiate every single time...but NOW they suddenly want to conference on it and complain that they're being refused? What a load of malarkey. ... ... ...
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    How true. Let's not forget that when the Senate passed a budget that it was Ted Cruz who blocked holding a budget conference.

    October 1, 2013 10:44 am at 10:44 am |
  3. just saying

    wake up america... democrats now know they can force you to do anything they want, including forcing you to buy something, or face a large government fine/tax. leaving these extreme leftist in power or electing them to new offices is to endanger every aspect of freedom you think you have. wake up america. obamacare is just the first thing they will force down your throat. there is far more to come if you give them the chance.

    October 1, 2013 10:44 am at 10:44 am |
  4. w l jones

    Strange strange indeed I did not see a sign on the HOUSE AND SENATE doors with a sign going out of business! no more government funds. Bless.

    October 1, 2013 10:47 am at 10:47 am |
  5. Sniffit

    "or face a large government fine/tax."

    Riiiiiight....$95....HUGE! So enormous a fine that the GOP/Teatroll talking points last week included snide gloating that the penalty isn't big enough to convince everyone to go to the exchanges and buy insurance and that some people would just be opting to pay the fine instead. Yep, epically huge.

    October 1, 2013 10:49 am at 10:49 am |
  6. Sniffit

    "obamacare is just the first thing they will force down your throat. there is far more to come if you give them the chance."

    Oh yes. Next will be babies I think. I've always wanted to force others to eat babies. Perhaps we can compromise and settle upon kittens instead tho.

    October 1, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  7. Data Driven

    @David,

    "How come the Democrats don't want it?"

    You're misinformed; Democrats do want Obamacare. Look at the partisan breakdown in the polls. If anything, liberals feel that Obamacare doesn't go far enough.

    October 1, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  8. rebecca turmo

    congress should be arrested for domestic terroism

    October 1, 2013 10:51 am at 10:51 am |
  9. Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "Right Wing Insanity"

    Rudy NYC: You don't request budget talks, even 18 times, when you are taking lavish luncheons instead of just bringing a bag lunch. And it's not just the liberal democrats. It's generation Xerox. Get it?

    October 1, 2013 10:52 am at 10:52 am |
  10. Lynda/Minnesota

    Dominican mama: "'m praying for your moderate cavalry to come charging in and take back their Party from the power-driven cray-crays."

    LOL. They will vote in 2014. The problem is, neither side will be very happy when moderates vote en masse. Neither side is ever truly happy with moderates. I speak from experience.

    October 1, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  11. Rudy NYC

    Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "Right Wing Insanity"

    Rudy NYC: You don't request budget talks, even 18 times, when you are taking lavish luncheons instead of just bringing a bag lunch. And it's not just the liberal democrats. It's generation Xerox. Get it?
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    Huh? No, I don't get it, and I'm all the better for it. You're just upset that you have no response to the fact that Republicans have blocked, or otherwise declined, conducting *any* budget talks and conferences. Sen. Cruz filibustering the Seante budget bill moving to a budget conference with the House is proof positive of it.

    October 1, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  12. Leo

    I think the people in the USA should shutdown also what good one is good for all

    October 1, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  13. Data Driven

    "It's generation Xerox. Get it?"

    Don't know about Rudy, but I, at least, am mystified. People who use Xerox machines eat lavishly?

    October 1, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am |
  14. tom l

    @ Sniffit the Corporatist
    "Riiiiiight....$95....HUGE! So enormous a fine that the GOP/Teatroll talking points last week included snide gloating that the penalty isn't big enough to convince everyone to go to the exchanges and buy insurance and that some people would just be opting to pay the fine instead. Yep, epically huge"

    For someone who claims to know the law, you KNOW that you are misleading everyone here with that. You know that the fine is either $95 OR 1% of your household income for this year. PLUS, beginning in 2016, the FINE GOES UP TO $695 OR 2.5% OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME. Wow, dude. I guess it's anything to try to win an argument, huh?

    October 1, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  15. The Real Tom Paine

    -The Real Tom Paine

    Uh-Oh, guess what day it is? Guess. What . Day. It . Is. Hey, Just Saying, guess what day it is? Aww, come on, I know you can hear me. Donna, Donna, Donna, Donna, Donna, what day is it Donna? Gunderson, guess what today is?

    Government Shutdown Day! Your dreams have come true! Woo Hoo!

    October 1, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  16. Sniffit

    And the traffic is so heavy from people trying to get on, get information and sign up on the exchange websites that they're being overwhelmed.

    But but but...nobody wants it!!!! OMG!!!! BENGHAZIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    October 1, 2013 11:00 am at 11:00 am |
  17. Ben

    ummm... last time i checked everybody that is saying the democrats control the house is wrong! A Majority is a majority in this country. We would not be in this mess if the two sides were willing to compromise. however, when you get people elected that are so far to the right that they don't even see the other point of view it makes it very hard. Secondly, messing with the congressional districts to get anything done is not a good idea. But other than that we are doing well.

    October 1, 2013 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  18. Len Zakas (CA)

    On News Room just before 11:00 a.m., the interviewee Tad was was allowed to cite that, unlike private sector employees, the federal workers had not had wages reduced over the last few years. Why wasn't Tad then asked if he had his wages reduced? Maybe I just don't appreciate an unchallenged "Holier than thou" attitude.

    October 1, 2013 11:05 am at 11:05 am |
  19. tom l

    We have congressmen saying this is the worst law in the history of this country. We have people on here claiming the reason for the shutdown is so that Obama doesn't have the secret service to protect him. We have so much outright lying and exageration that you really need to listen to opposite sides and somewhere in the middle is the truth. We really need to calm down. The sky isn't falling. Our country will be fine. We had 12 shutdowns when Tip O'Neill was Speaker and 2 when Newt was Speaker. Just relax and realize that these politicians are playing us. They are only trying to make themselves more important by inserting themselves into our daily lives. That's all it is. Politics and politicians.

    October 1, 2013 11:05 am at 11:05 am |
  20. tom l

    @Sniffit the Corporatist
    "And the traffic is so heavy from people trying to get on, get information and sign up on the exchange websites that they're being overwhelmed.

    But but but...nobody wants it!!!! OMG!!!! BENGHAZIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    So disingenious and exactly the point of people who want less govt. They may not "want" it but they are FORCED to use it. Do you see the tiny itsy bitsy difference in your intellectually dishonest comment?

    And the fact that you mock Benghazi is shameful.

    October 1, 2013 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  21. Buckley

    Republicans have hired hackers to initiate denial of service attacks on the healthcare.gov website to prevent people from signing up. Shameful, unpatriotic, extortionists.

    October 1, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  22. w l jones

    If the US government take over all theirs natural resourse and sell it at retail price they could pay all the cost of our government bills for next one hundred fifty years with out raising taxes.

    October 1, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  23. just saying

    tom l
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    @ Sniffit the Corporatist
    "Riiiiiight....$95....HUGE! So enormous a fine that the GOP/Teatroll talking points last week included snide gloating that the penalty isn't big enough to convince everyone to go to the exchanges and buy insurance and that some people would just be opting to pay the fine instead. Yep, epically huge"
    --
    For someone who claims to know the law, you KNOW that you are misleading everyone here with that. You know that the fine is either $95 OR 1% of your household income for this year. PLUS, beginning in 2016, the FINE GOES UP TO $695 OR 2.5% OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME. Wow, dude. I guess it's anything to try to win an argument, huh?
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    thank you for responding with the truth. it is very difficult keeping up with all the lies that sniffin, rudy, data, lynd spew in his forum. and the fact is they know they are lying and deceiving people. it is the leftist/progressive/socialist/communist/democrat way.

    October 1, 2013 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  24. A True Conservative

    @Blame Republicans – Single payer, eh? In other words socialized medicine. Sure, I want the government to be completely in control of ~20% of the economy. After all, they have done so well with the Post Office, Freddie and Fannie, Social Security, the infrastructure that is collapsing around us......need I go on?

    @Ben – you are partially correct – why won't Harry and the President even allow the legislation to go to conference? Perhaps it's not only the Republicans who are too far to one side....have you ever thought of that? Or is it always the "other" guys who are too extreme?

    October 1, 2013 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  25. anonymous

    Sniffit
    --
    "they voted for the people in the house for two elections now"
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    The GOP/Teatrolls kept the House in 2012 by winning a minority of the votes, all through the magic of gerrymandering. They were not "sent there by a majority of America to do X, Y and Z"...not in any way, shape or form.
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    please, enough of your rubbish. republicans won a majority of the house races which are district based. voters in one district have no say in other districts. the senate seats are for that. do you have any clue on how our government works?

    and as for gerrymandering, it is the democrats that invented it to give minorities seats in the house. by all means get rid of it and watch minority/democrat seats drop like a rock. or will you find some other way of rigging the election process to get the outcome you wish? democrats oppose any sort of election integrity measures which should raise large red flags with people. why would anybody oppose have fair and honest elections where only citizens vote and vote only once? the democrat party is more of a crime sydicate these days than it is a political party.

    October 1, 2013 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
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