Washington (CNN) – In an interview with CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid accused House Speaker John Boehner of being more worried about his job than the country amid a government shutdown.
The Nevada Democrat also talked for the first time Thursday about Boehner reneging on an agreement between the two over a “clean” spending bill, and admitted he directed his chief of staff to leak embarrassing e-mails that they say indicate Boehner changed his position on Obamacare subsidies for Congress.
Reid also followed up on his controversial comments from Wednesday, when he took issue with the idea that the Senate should vote to fund clinical trials for cancer patients at the National Institutes of Health during the shutdown.
In the interview, Reid criticized Boehner for bowing to a conservative faction of his caucus that insists on attaching anti-Obamacare provisions to a temporary spending bill needed to fund the government.
“His job is not as important as our country,” Reid said.
While a more moderate group of the GOP caucus is trying to generate support for a “clean” continuing resolution, Boehner has not agreed to bring their plan up for a vote.
“I say to my friend John Boehner–and I do like him, I’ve said that lots of times–John, if you want to really have history books account who you really are, do this,” he said, urging Boehner to take up the clean bill.
“He has to have some courage,” he added.
Clearly agitated at the memory, Reid said the two met in early September and reached a compromise about the end-of-the month deadline to pass a spending bill. Reid said Boehner agreed to pass a $988 billion spending package, $70 billion less than what the senate leader wanted.
“That was really hard,” Reid said, referring his decision to drop $70 billion. “My caucus really didn't like that. We took a real hit.”
Asked if Boehner at the time promised to deliver a clean continuing resolution, Reid said: “That's why we did it. That's why we agreed to that lower number. So that's one of the largest compromises since I've been in Congress.”
Republicans passed a series of bills on Wednesday with majority support that would fund national parks, the National Institutes of Health and District of Columbia operations while the government remains shut down.
But Reid has refused to take them up, saying the government should be funded all at once. The White House also issued a veto threat.
Reid, who's been known to use explosive terms to describe the tea party, defended his choice of words, especially when he calls them “anarchists.”
“Why in the world wouldn't I use the term anarchy? That's what they are, they're anarchists,” he said. “They don't believe in government at any level. That's why we have members of Congress over there today and yesterday saying finally, we're able to close the government.”
He conceded that calling them “the weird caucus,” as he’s previously done, was “probably a little over the hill,” but said he won’t give up on referring to them as anarchists.
“There's no better description I can make,” he said. “They're not blowing up buildings and they're not killing people. But they're throwing much - monkey wrenches in the wheels of government.”
On Wednesday, Bash asked Reid at a press conference why he would refuse to pass a bill to fund the NIH’s clinical trials, which have stopped amid the shutdown.
He reiterated his stance against funding the government piece by piece.
"Why would we want to do that? I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting at home. They have a few problems of their own,” he said. “To have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing means you're as irresponsible and reckless.”
Republicans quickly seized on his answer, using it to paint the Democrat as uncaring and insensitive.
While Reid admitted he was not articulate in his answer, he said the attacks that followed were “mean-spirited.”
“I understand babies who are sick. I've got a lot of children, lots of grandchildren. I really worry about kids, probably more than others because those little bodies can't take the assaults that we as older people can take,” he said.
Reid also commented on why his staff leaked a series of e-mails between his office and Boehner’s, which, according to Reid’s office, show Boehner worked privately to preserve health insurance subsidies for lawmakers and congressional employees before publicly moving to strip them as part of the standoff over government funding.
“He was behind this all the way,” Reid said. “I did a lot of the heavy lifting, but he was part of the deal. He was there. And then to have him come and try to say, ‘this is bad, Congress is getting something others aren't getting,’ it's not true. … I thought, how could you do that?”
Democrats argue the federal support is no different than what large companies give their employees.
“I told my staff, ‘You tell his staff, if they do this, I’m going to have to go public, because this is something that is just absolutely wrong,’” he said.
A spokesman for Boehner denied Tuesday the speaker was working with the Democrats to find a legislative fix for the subsidies, outside of repealing Obamacare in its entirety and keeping congressional employees on their existing health plans.
Instead, Boehner thought the matter should be handled by the Office of Personnel Management.
“The speaker’s position is clear: He voted against Obamacare, and he wants to repeal Obamacare. If the Senate Democrats and the White House wanted to make a ‘fix’ to the law, it would be their fix. The speaker’s ‘fix’ is repeal,” said spokesman Michael Steel. “This is just a desperate act by Harry Reid’s staff to protect their own subsidy.”
– CNN Senior Congressional Producer Ted Barrett contributed to this report.
That's putting it politely. Boehner has no job just like most of the TPublicans liars on here. He's no more than a corporate puppet who comes in the color orange, wearing an expensive suit and cries on demand – depending on the situation. Useless and a waste of my taxpayer dollars. Reid should tell the truth.
And Doris Dems Obama & Reid can keep fighting for Soros & Buffet
Touching to see Harry so concerned for John Boehner's well being.
If you believe that, I have a ChikFilA franchise on the Upper West Side for you.
Boehner is part of the process Reid. This is not 2009 when you pass whatever the hell you want. All spending bills begin in the house. It is their play first, Mister. The backlash against Repub's is scorchingly less than I expected to hear after three days. Maybe you will lose this argument, crazy man.
Obama's concerned about his legacy, Reid's worried about his power, Boehner is worried about his caucus and the American people's freedoms have been usurped by all of them. We're cheering for subservience. They all suck. I choose freedom.
How did we get to the point where the most sleazy dirt bag possible is running the Senate and basically destroying the country?
Reid is a failure along with the policies of BHO and the democrats. Most will never know as long as they have the news media in their corner.
And neither is your job you old goat.
Should have retired a long time ago.
You just don't get it we never wanted Obamacare and you and Obama both are causing this Country's downfall.
Unfortunately for the GOP, its party first, America second.
I would be embarrassed to have Harry Reid say he likes me. Ew.
Harry Reid doesn't have to worry about a job. He set his entire family up as lobbyists.
If anyone in government should resign, it is Harry Reid. The Obama puppet, who allows Obama to control every single thing he does.
How about the guys who broke the law and are holding the economy hostage, Rick? They seem to be the ones who can't do anything but break stuff.
harry reid will die ashamed and alone, probably in another country. he has those helen thomas blues in his future. if there is any jiustice he will die in jail in america.
"Boehner, Tea Partiers, and their ilk need to be taken into custody. Until order is restored, President Obama must rule by Executive Order. It is the only course that now is feasible."
Wow! Why would you not want to just frog-walk the perps? Remember that one? Dumb post. The real issue is spending. If you spend more than you take in you will run out of money...well, we've run out of money some years ago. Blame Bush. Blame Obama. Blame the wars. It really doesn't matter who you blame, we are bust and then some. I blame stupid policies and stupid spending! What we need are politicians with the will and backing of the people (working people, not welfare slugs) to reverse the spending trend and, just maybe, sometime in the next 100 years pull our United States of America out of this horrible hole we've dug. I do not have high hopes but I am ever optimistic.
I'll bet when Harry was in school kids stole his lunch money and gave him Indian shorts almost every day. The fact that southern Nevada continues to return him to the senate speaks badly of the intelligence level of the voters there.
And Harry Reid isn't as important as Boehner! In fact Harry Reid isn't important at all!
Reid: Boehner’s ‘job is not as important as our country’
That's funny coming from the man who is hell bent on destroying the country
Reid is an hysterical idiot. It amazes me such a drama queen ever got so far in life, but in Politics anything is possible.
True of every politician in Washington. We're expecting all of you to serve your country; not yourselves.
Boehner is third in line to the presidency. What say you Reid?
Boehner is third in line to the Presidency and you are not in the line of succession. What do you have to say to that Reid?
If these people are against government why do they work in government....they could just get a job as a stock broker or a money manager or something and keep all their money and enjoy their life!
Hey Reid, Show Boehner what you mean. Quit and tell him how you did it.
"I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting at home.". Uh Harry, you have 20 million people sitting at home because there are no jobs!
That's odd, Harry; I've been thinking you achieved "worthless" a long time ago.