(CNN) – House Republicans won't support raising the federal government's borrowing limit without new spending cuts from the Obama administration, and the White House risks an unprecedented U.S. default by refusing, House Speaker John Boehner said Sunday.
Speaking six days into a partial government shutdown and 11 days before the Treasury Department expects to hit its statutory debt ceiling, Boehner told ABC's "This Week" that he wants "a serious conversation" about spending, but no tax increases.
If he really wants to negotiate let's make a deal. In return for some small hit to Obamacare I want the minimum wage raised to $15 an hour, cafe standards raised to 50 miles per gallon by 2020, full funding plus more for Head Start and Planned Parenthood, funding for alternative energy, and federal legislation making it so truly bipartisan(50/50) committees in every state redraw the district lines. I also want increased taxes on oils and Coal to help pay for this. After all in negotiating you give some to gain some. What do you want?
As for the Republicans, they don't want to negotiate. They want to throw a temper tantrum and hold the country hostage.
John Boehner, Speaker of the Out House.
Now can everyone understand why the president will not negotiate with Boehner? His word is no good. Boehner recently stated that he would not let the government default even if he had to include Democrats to get a bill passed. Less than 24 hours later he is changing his tune.
I think the solution to the problem is this: Charge the TEA Party members in the House with domestic terrorism. Every day that they continue to hold the budget hostage, two or three of the Hose members are actually arrested to be tried on those charges. They will either figure out a solution to their little tantrum, or they'll all be in jail, and the sane members of the House (of either party) will prevail. Maybe they should start with Mr. Boehner....
There has to be a stopping point for the continuing escalation of debt. Period.
Agreed, time to go back to the pre-Reagan income tax levels. We've experimented with income shift to the rich, and the federal government did not benefit. Time to end the GOP's "Voodoo Economics" (i.e "Cut Taxes and Spend").
US Government is responsible to maintain fiscal discipline such as budget spending like the rest of us do. The US government is spending too much money, more than what it can afford. It's time to go back and see what we can vs what we cannot afford. Unfortunately no one addresses this issue, so I applaud for someone taking a stance to force Obama and the senate to address the spending issue first. In reality this is what we have to do in all our personal life, to assess how we are doing and prioritize spendings before committing to big programs such as Obamacare.
Boehner says he cannot deliver the votes needed for a clean CR to pass. He is right. He can't. But
Nancy Pelosi and 17 Republicans who don't agree with the Ted Cruz approach can.
Last count there are over 20 who will vote for a clean CR.
They need to go to the house floor and request a vote tomorrow. Not just one of them. All of them.
It will then be apparent to all that the votes are there.
A clean CR and PAY the bills that CONGRESS has racked up over the years.
Wait wait...wait. Let me make sure I understand this correctly. Boehnor....you and the GOP spent TRILLIONS under the Bush GOP. Now the bill comes in and it's time to raise the debt ceiling to pay it down...and you refuse to pay for what YOU HAVE ALREADY SPENT!? And that is you bargaining tool: "if Obama doesn't cut spending, we're not going to pay down our GOP debt. Nyah!".
Ummm ok. That is just reckless...and it's time to FIRE THE GOP!
"Republicans HAVE to hold out no matter what! The more we see of Obamacare the worse it is! Please do not give up your fight!"
No can do Donna. Exhortion shouldn't be allowed in the United States Congress. On another note, did you read the NYT today. You should. It brings to light where your talking points are coming from. If you doubt me, I'll add a quote from the article:
"One of the biggest sources of conservative money is Freedom Partners, a tax-exempt “business league” that claims more than 200 members, each of whom pays at least $100,000 in dues. The group’s board is headed by a longtime executive of Koch Industries, the conglomerate run by the Koch brothers, who were among the original financiers of the Tea Party movement. The Kochs declined to comment. NYT Oct 5, 2013
and again a quote from same article:
"The document set a target date: March 27, when a continuing resolution allowing the government to function was to expire. Its message was direct: “Conservatives should not approve a C.R. unless it defunds Obamacare.” NYT Oct 5, 2013
There is more to the article, but my main concern is what are YOU getting from the Koch's that you feel the need to repeat their drivel and in the process give credit to Boehner's Koch brothers led government shakedown? Because quite frankly your willingness to do is not a good precedent to set by any member of any political party representing the United States of America.
Face it Mr. Speaker- you've got nothing. Blow past the debt. limit, and crash the nation's Full-Faith-and-Credit, the last worry for you will be winning elections or playing political games- keeping your butt out of jail will be foremost.
SHAME ON THE Republicans...I hope the GOP are VOTED OUT IN 2014.
Now the GOP/TEA is playing the Cruz game....."Blind Man's Bluff". They would be better off playing solitaire. The country is watching to see if the republicans blindly follow him of a cliff.
I had Tricare and paid $54 a month. with ACA, now I either pay $228 a month with Tricare, or $184 with ACA. AND, I am healthy, no prescriptions, or needed hospital visits in 12 years. Thats what I am not fond of. Also, compromise works if both sides do it. Republicans went to meet with Obama last week, and he said that he wasnt going to even bring up ACA, & if I was in that room, I would have walked out. no use in dealing with someone not willing to negotiate.
Republicans, if the government defaults on October 17th, what leverage do you have left? You can only ruin our nation's credit once.
Why is my representative, Rodney Frelinghuysen going along with this imbecile and this charade? Rodney... Your position has been very secure for many, many years. Keep this up and we will remember at election time!
While they're standing in the welfare lines
Crying at the doorsteps of those armies of salvation
Wasting time in the unemployment lines
Sitting around waiting for a promotion
Poor people gonna rise up
And get their share
Poor people gonna rise up
And take what's theirs
The speaker should have start talking to the president about this 6 months ago. I understand the need and desire to reduce the debt. I think that every department should cut the respective department spending by 10% to 15% by the head of the department (or secretary).
In the mean time, the speaker needs to get a CR passed so that a budget and the corresponding appropriation bills can be passed. This means both the House and Senate need to send people to conference.
Boehner demands... DEMANDS? Mr. President, please visit a foreign country and let this sad excuse for a Speaker twist in the wind a while!
Speaker John Boehner is a gutless leader who prefers to acquiesce to the pressure from some members of his party than to stand up and do what is right for this country. His lack of leadership is causing countless numbers of people to suffer the hardship of layoff while he and his counterparts continue to get paid. Congress as a whole has become dysfunctional bowing to the wishes of special interest groups and their financial backers rather than to the wishes of the people who elected them. The longer they are in office the worse it becomes. Its time we had Term Limits with no one in congress serving more than two terms.
This is about our country and our people. To Boehner it's all about "Get Obama". What an idiot.
Boehner, Cruz, Ryan are finished as "self serving"...
"Boehner told ABC's "This Week" that he wants "a serious conversation" about spending, but no tax increases."
You're funny, John.
I'm wondering - can the Executive, with the majority of Congress, literally throw John and his friends out? They're destroying the country. We may have to send in the military (if we can still afford one) and bodily throw these people out. Set up a "rump" parliament-type deal, pay our bills, and get on with the business of our country. Hold new elections to replace the rebels.
We're getting pretty close, people. We are on the edge of disaster. If we go over the precipice, NOTHING WILL BE THE SAME FOR A LONG TIME.
Mr. "Boner", let me remind you and your fellow Republikooks that you took this oath upon entering office; "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."
I submit to you sir that you and your brethren Tea Partiers are violating that oath!!! I consider you currently to be anti-American subversives who instead of defending our Constitution are currently on a path to destroy it and that you are not fulfilling your duty to faithfully discharge your duties! Consequently you have forfeited any right to walk the halls of Congress, should be escorted from those premises forthwith, and charged as traitors and political terrorists!
Mr. "Boner", you and the other Republikooks should now be arrested on sight! Prison and stripping you of citizenship with immediate deportation, that is the proper medicine for the likes of you!!
These guys are scary stupid, and the talking orange needs a spine implant pronto. Don't reward the brats for acting up, john, discipline them! This gutless wonder shouldn't be allowed to play with gavels.
Boehner is not a man of his word. Last month he said he wasn't going to attach the defund Obamacare riders to the CR but then a week ago he does. And just 2 days ago he said he wasn't going to make demands on the Debt ceiling, but here we are on Sunday hearing him talking about not raising the Debt ceiling unless Republicans get their way.
This is a losing tactic because the President was not bluffing when he said that he's not going to negotiate anything until Congress does their job and pays the bills. The President is sticking to his words, Boehner needs to allow a clean vote on these items without further delay.
The American People DO NOT want more spending cuts without offsetting revenues. Corporations pay near to nothing, and billionaires pay a lower tax rate than a school teacher. Time for a change. DON'T GIVE IN TO THE TEA SLAGS. They can never be appeased until the middle class are slaves to their ilk.