October 7th, 2013
02:55 PM ET
7 months ago

Boehner & Obama's war of words

Washington (CNN) - New pointed rhetoric on Monday over the government shutdown and the looming debt ceiling deadline from President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner.

Not long after the president reiterated that he won't negotiate with Congress while the country's in a government shutdown and under the threat of a possible debt default, House Speaker John Boehner took to the floor of the chamber to respond.

"The president had us all down to the White House last week, only to remind me that he was not going to negotiate over keeping the government open or over the looming need to increase the debt limit," Boehner said. "The president's refusal to negotiate is hurting our economy and putting our country at risk."

Boehner then highlighted comments from two senior White House economic advisers, including Gene Sperling, director of the National Economic Council, who said earlier Monday that Obama "is not going to sanction negotiations with any factions that are using the threat of default as a way of extracting policy in our democracy."

Boehner said "a senior White House official said that the president would rather default than to sit down and negotiate.

"Really? The president, I will say this again, a senior White House staffer, this morning said that the president would rather default on our debt than to sit down and negotiate."

"Now the American people expect when their leaders have differences, we're in a time of crisis, that we'll sit down and at least have a conversation. Really, Mr. President, it's time to have that conversation before our economy is put further at risk," Boehner concluded.

Earlier Monday, while speaking at FEMA, the president also repeated that he won't negotiate under the gun, saying "we're not going to establish that pattern," adding that "we're not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged shutdown until Republicans get 100% of what they want" or under the threat of "economic catastrophe."

The president also differed with Boehner's comments from Sunday that there were not enough votes to pass a clean continuing resolution to fund the government.

"My very strong suspicion is there are enough votes there," Obama said, adding that Boehner "apparently doesn't want to see the government shutdown end ... unless he's able to extract concessions that don't have anything to do with the budget."

–CNN’s Paul Steinhauser and Dana Bash contributed to this report.

soundoff (39 Responses)
  1. tom l

    What ramifications? There were none.

    Exactly, to you. The ramifications are your integrity. Your intellectual honesty, or lack thereof. But, since you come from the Saul Alinsky style of politics; by any means necessary. This is why I can't understand why you actually believe in the dems as if they're any better than the repubs. You are so easy to dismiss away and use terms like "false equivalence" because it is to you, however, the actions are what they are. They voted against raising the debt limit, and in one fell swoop showed you that all of these actions by repubs against Obama have ZERO to do with the color of his skin (something you continue to insinuate) but just dumb politics.

    The fact that you don't see that this is all political maneuvering is amazing to me. Come on, say it with me 'MAN – U – FACTURED!" clap, clap, clapclapclap. MAN – U – FACTURED!! clap, clap, clapclapclap

    October 7, 2013 03:11 pm at 3:11 pm |
  2. Rudy NYC

    Earlier Monday, while speaking at FEMA, the president also repeated that he won't negotiate under the gun, saying "we're not going to establish that pattern," adding that "we're not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged shutdown until Republicans get 100% of what they want" or under the threat of "economic catastrophe."
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    The two biggest problems with the Cruz strategy is that it takes too much from Democrats, and gives so little in return. The main argument isn't even about budget numbers. It's all about the ideology of the losing side in the last election. Since they cannot legislate it away, nor judicate it away through the courts, the Tea Party plans to eradicate it through stubborn ignorance driven fear.

    October 7, 2013 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  3. O'drama ya Mama

    Boehner, allow a vote in the house for the clean bill. If you dont get enough votes to pass it then you can say "I told you so" and you might gain some leverage. If it does pass then we know this is all your fault for failing to allow this vote days ago.

    October 7, 2013 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  4. dee

    Boehner, "Worst Speaker of the House" Ever!!!

    October 7, 2013 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  5. Wake up People!

    Boehner, you're a bare faced lie. How in Gods name do you negotiate over a law that is already the law?? Your guy Willard lost. The SC upheld it and you don't have the votes to repeal it. It's time to let it go. What next if Roe vs Wade isn't repealed then what?? Where does this all end???

    This isn't negotiating, this is treason. And the entire GOP should go to jail for it.

    October 7, 2013 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  6. the hippies were right

    W'ere only in a time of crisis, because you created a false crisis you stupid drunk! I used to joke around on this blog, but these GOP terrorists and you brainless Fox "spews" followers have gone way past stupid! I can only thank all the non-republican/conservative/tea party people who post on here, for keeping my faith alive in the human race.

    October 7, 2013 03:26 pm at 3:26 pm |
  7. Thomas

    John , vote a CLEAN SPENDING BILL , you have the votes .

    Stop doing NOTHING !

    October 7, 2013 03:29 pm at 3:29 pm |
  8. carrotroot

    The White House is reiterating its position, it will negotiate with the Republicans BUT they will need to end the government shutdown and raise the debt ceiling - even if it is a temporary hike, but it must do so without any strings attached because that is Congresses job.

    October 7, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  9. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    Boehner is a lying sack of . . .He will own this shut down and the default. Even in his own gerrymandered district, he is going to find it difficult. Even if reelected, the GOP will make sure he is not speaker.

    October 7, 2013 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  10. sonny chapman

    In 2011,during the last Budget Showdown Obama told Boehner & Cantor that he'd, "go to the people on the issue" if they dug in. He also said no one ever treated Ronald Reagan like they were treating him That's what Obama, the cool poker player is now doing. He's using Chinese Water Torture & Boehner is squealing like a pig.

    October 7, 2013 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  11. Wake up People!

    And I'm really getting sick of the MSM trying to perpetrate their false equivalency when it comes to this subject. The POTUS has gone out of his way to work with the GOP who simply say NO. Being seen with the POTUS was even bad, look what happened to Christy simply for showing the POTUS the same thing they claim they want. RESPECT. Christy was vilified. They even blamed him for Willard losing the election.

    IMO, it can't be called negotiations if you have a loaded pistol pointed at your head.

    October 7, 2013 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  12. Ron -IN

    I hope EVERYONE that is non-political realizes that if Speaker Boehner felt the clean CR would "FAIL", he would put it up for a vote. After all if it failed the Speaker would then really have the momentum and the President would feel he HAD to change his position and negotiate. This tells me one thing, Speaker Boehner KNOWS it would probably pass with only 25 to 40 Republican votes and HE would lose the Speakership for "giving" the President a victory. And for this reason alone, the President MUST stand FIRM!!! The pattern must be broken or this will happen every two or three years.

    October 7, 2013 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  13. pass the buck

    Like the Health Care law, why won't the Democrats pass the Republican lead bill? Do what they did before, pass it to find out what's in it.

    Stop passing the Buck. Pass the House bills, today.

    Thank you.

    Another satisfied customer of the united crap states of disfunctional America

    October 7, 2013 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  14. pass the buck

    Remember, you work us. We the people are your employer.

    Do you want to hear the famous words? "YOU'RE FIRED! "

    October 7, 2013 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  15. Anonymous

    Boehner thinks he is saving his job or he is a true tea partier. His job will be on the line as long as he holds the
    Speakership. The tea party will never "have his back", they will just tolerate him as long as he salutes and
    obeys.
    The Tea Party, Koch Bros, and all connected will never stop. After this mess, if America survives their
    shennanigans, they will move on to destroy the Education Department, then the Department of Health and
    Human Services, on and on toward total destruction.
    If they aren't stopped now, they will become more hideous and hateful. They are cutting off their own
    noses to spite their ugly faces.

    October 7, 2013 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  16. ThinkAgain

    If a majority of Americans didn't want Obamacare, we never would have elected him President TWICE.

    end of story ...

    October 7, 2013 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  17. pass the buck

    Clean SR, like a colonoscopy. Won't hurt as long as you are asleep. But, no one likes the prep work.

    We need a clean SR, like we need to clean out the Democratic lead Senate.

    Flush, the sound of success.

    October 7, 2013 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  18. Rudy NYC

    tom l. posted:

    The fact that you don't see that this is all political maneuvering is amazing to me. Come on, say it with me 'MAN – U – FACTURED!" clap, clap, clapclapclap. MAN – U – FACTURED!! clap, clap, clapclapclap
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    Great. You've finally figured it out. "You've taken your first step into a larger world." The Tea Party people campaigned on shutting down government. They even signed oaths to never raise the debt ceiling. What's your point? We already know this.

    October 7, 2013 03:59 pm at 3:59 pm |
  19. ThinkAgain

    @Ron -IN:"This tells me one thing, Speaker Boehner KNOWS it would probably pass with only 25 to 40 Republican votes and HE would lose the Speakership for "giving" the President a victory. And for this reason alone, the President MUST stand FIRM!!! The pattern must be broken or this will happen every two or three years."

    Absolutely correct. But then again, you are asking people to think, something he GOP hopes you never do ...

    October 7, 2013 03:59 pm at 3:59 pm |
  20. Arun

    All the Repubes know how to do is talk. They talk, talk, and talk. Please show me where they actually do something. They need to be put out to pasture!!

    October 7, 2013 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  21. ThinkAgain

    Ever notice that all the GOP has been good for these last 5 years has been to create crises and try to obstruct President Obama? No new ideas; just the same failed policies floated out amidst hysteria and fear about our President.

    GOP are nothing but a bunch of losers...

    October 7, 2013 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  22. 1twinsfan

    Negotiate? Negotiate what? The ACA is law. Passed and upheld by the SCOTUS. The time to negotiate was when Pres. Obama asked the Repubs to offer their ideas for his health plan bill years ago. They didn't show up.

    October 7, 2013 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  23. tom l

    @Rudy,
    If you weren't so blindly partisan you would realize that it is both sides manufacturing this. The TEA Party did not campaign on "shutting the govt down". That's a total mischaracterization of what they are doing, and you should be more honest than that. They don't WANT to shut the govt down, they feel they NEED to shut the govt down. That's a big difference. And you know that.

    Bottom line, both sides have really valid points as to why the other side is responsible for shutting this down and there not being an agreement. Both sides. But the problem is that is all they got. Both sides can only blame the other side for the problem. Neither takes responsibility. If you weren't so partisan, you would see that not only are you correct that they should bring this to a vote but that it is also true that if the real concern were the "full faith and credit of the United States", then President Obama would be willing to sign the bill that prioritizes our debt. But he won't do that because of politics. And therefore, that's why I say we should all be chanting "MAN – U – FACTURED!". But you're way to partisan to ever acknowledge these very real facts. You will just point fingers and say why it's the other party's fault. This is why I am a libertarian. Neither side gives a rip about you or me, they only care about money and keeping power.

    October 7, 2013 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  24. ThinkAgain

    @pass the buck: "Remember, you work us. We the people are your employer. Do you want to hear the famous words? "YOU'RE FIRED! "

    We elected President Obama TWICE, retained a Democratic majority in the Senate and cast 1.4 million MORE votes for Democratic candidates in the House than for repubs.

    If you believe in representative democracy, then Boehner should allow the clean Continuing Resolution to come to a vote before the House. It's time for the 30 or so reps who've caused this mess to be held accountable for their actions.

    And it's up to us to remember exactly who these yahoos are. Google 32 republicans who caused the government shutdown to see the list.

    October 7, 2013 04:12 pm at 4:12 pm |
  25. Rudy NYC

    pass the buck

    Like the Health Care law, why won't the Democrats pass the Republican lead bill? Do what they did before, pass it to find out what's in it.
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    The Senate has already passed the House bill that fully funded the government. They removed the amendment to defund that ACA. I should point out that the spending levels in that bill were far below what the Democrats wanted, but they accepted them+ without a fight.

    What has the Tea Party offered in way of a compromise? Nothing. They only seek to take, take, take. Seeing how this bill would only last a few weeks, we would back in this same place all over again before Thanksgiving.

    October 7, 2013 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
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