Washington (CNN) - They went around and around for an hour, getting nowhere.
Then, suddenly, a change that could help break the logjam that's resulted in a partial government shutdown and the looming threat of a further crisis when the nation bumps up against its self-imposed borrowing limit.
Oh give me a break. So Ryan says, "We don't like you, you don't like us, but we gotta learn to live with each other" ... and, therefore, "the whole tone changed"?
I completely reject this notion that Paul Ryan is somehow saying something that hasn't been said before by everyone else. I note that the source to this story is anonymous - clearly someone working for Ryan. The media, which loves him even though public doesn't, are all too delighted to run with a story of Ryan being some sort of savior. Um, hey, geniuses in the media: there's still no deal! Scoreboard! Ryan did NOTHING.
As long as government is shutdown or the fiscal cliff looms, there is nothing to negotiate. I would compare the standoff to a home invasion. A group of attackers invades the house, and threatens to blow it up with all hands inside of it unless the parents turn over the baby, Obamacare.
The house is quickly surrounded and there is no escape for the attackers. They issue variations on their threat: i.e. like promising to kill the baby later instead of right away. The standoff continues as the occupants of the house begin to run out of food, the fiscal cliff. The invaders appear to give up their demand to kill the baby. The seem to have shifted to demanding that no food ever be brought to the house again.
Insanity, right? What is there to negotiate with those attackers, except for their complete surrender. Just like the home invaders, the Tea Party is offering mutually assured destruction in exchange for meeting their demands. The Tea Party attackers are demanding something in exchange for their leaving and returning in another six weeks. Are you kidding me? There is absolutely nothing to negotiate, except for their complete capitulation.
The failure CRUZ can go back to Canada now , if they would even take the loser!!!!AND LIER,give the fools that sent you their money, give I t back you lier!!!!
In other words, Paul Ryan was rude and the President told him to go find a way to re-open the government.
There is an old saying,NEVER SEND A BOY TO DO A MAN'S JOB. I would add don't put someone else in charge of your life.It all started so well. Just give the Federal Government the power to collect Taxes and things will be better. So, after 100 years how has it worked out? I think it was in 1913 the Telephone Tax was imposed to pay for the Spanish American war.Guess how long that Tax lasted? It was revoked just a few years ago.
It is time to repeal the Amendment that allows the Federal Government to collect Taxes and return most of it to the States.
I think I will pass on the Paul Ryan made it meaningful dialog. No doubt Paul Ryan "pouted". And because he is already well known for his pouts there really is not fact finding in this article worth debating.
No doubt those who find Paul Ryan interesting can read all the details of this newest pout session in his up and coming book tour.
What's remarkable is that CNN and others so desperately want to paint this as Ryan acting the hero, when what it really showed is that Obama's refusal to allow the GOP/Teatrolls to play this hostage/ransom game has finally started to force the GOP/Teatrolls to crack and recognize that they can't just usurp the gov't by taking the budget and debt ceiling hostage. This is not to say that Ryan's more conciliatory tone is not laudable, but it should also be recognized that the only reason it's come to the point where someone from the GOP/Teatrolls stepped forward to say something somewhat more reasonable to break the logjam was because they were forced to recognize that their shenanigans have failed. CNN desperately does not want to give any credit to Obama on that front.
There is an element on the hyper-right wing that wants to return the U.S. to days before there were no states in the West, somewhere in the early 1800s. They seem to prefer the lifestyle of living off the land, out on the open range, back when the political debate was about whether or not to create states. They want to live like "The Waltons" in a barter society that doesn't use money, but exchanges goods and gold. Back when every military was a militia of hired guns and mercenaries. Back when there was no government at all in their lives, escept for the calvary to fight off the Indians.