Shutdown vote 2016 impact
October 17th, 2013
01:18 PM ET
11 months ago

Shutdown vote 2016 impact

Washington (CNN) - The vote to end the shutdown took place in October 2013, but it may provide some clues about the 2016 race for the White House.

There are a bunch of potential presidential hopefuls in Congress, but since all Democrats voted lockstep to back a compromise to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling, it's the Republican votes that are more interesting.

Ted Cruz

The least surprising vote among the possible GOP White House hopefuls belonged to freshman Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. He was the most visible lawmaker in the tea party push to tie renewed government funding and borrowing authority to the new healthcare law, known as Obamacare. Cruz, of course, voted "no" Wednesday night and at numerous times throughout the day headed to cameras to rail against the agreement. While Cruz's actions made him more enemies among some congressional Republicans, it only endeared him more to tea party activists, grassroots conservatives, and others who make up much of the base that votes in the GOP primaries and caucuses.

Rand Paul

Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky has been outspoken about the possibility of running for president. But while he voted no, he was also very quiet during the extended partisan battle on Capitol Hill. "The storyline is that Rand Paul was not a leader in this fight," says Stuart Rothenberg, editor and publisher of the non-partisan Rothenberg Political Report. He was in an interesting position. While he's a hero among grassroots conservatives and tea party activists, Paul also appears to have a truce with his state's senior Senator, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. It was McConnell who brokered the deal with Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The alliance, for now, keeps Paul from criticizing McConnell as the leader faces a conservative primary challenge as he runs for re-election next year. And it potentially helps Paul with establishment Republicans should he follow in his father's footsteps - former Rep. Ron Paul made three bids for president - and run for the White House.

"He's trying to show he can be a team player with the Republicans. Because if he campaigns for President, Paul has to run as a loyal Republican and can't be seen like his father, who was viewed as someone who wasn't loyal to the party. You can't win the nomination unless you are seen as a loyal Republican," adds Rothenberg.

This may explain why Paul wasn't out there leading the fight. But in the end his vote, which was not crucial to pass the agreement, was "a reflection of what he believes," says Rothenberg.

Marco Rubio

First term Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida also voted no, and his vote was also no surprise. Rubio's been very vocal in his opposition to the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare. But he was much less visible than Cruz when it came to pushing the fight.

Paul Ryan

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, the 2012 GOP vice presidential nominee, was a leader in the failed drive by the House Republican leadership to find consensus. But the congressman from Wisconsin ultimately voted no, going against the rest of the House GOP leadership. "I think no is a safer vote for someone with national ambitions," says Rothenberg. "If you are going to talk to Republican voters in 2015 and 2016, a "no" vote is much safer."

Peter King

Rep. Peter King of New York was a vocal critic of Cruz, and the push to tie defunding Obamacare to the shutdown, throughout the saga, so his vote in favor of the agreement is no surprise. But King's vote won't endear him to the conservative GOP primary and caucus voters.


Filed under: 2016 • Government Shutdown • Marco Rubio • Paul Ryan • Peter King • Rand Paul • Ted Cruz
soundoff (31 Responses)
  1. Sniffit

    "it's the Republican votes that are more interesting."

    Not they're not. They all voted the same. You say it's "interesting" as if they "didn't march in lockstep" and then report that they all voted no, because that's the only acceptable answer to the crazy, radicalized RWNJ base they've cultivated.

    And no, Peter King doesn't count...he hasn't even a scintilla of a shot at becoming the nominee and you just threw him in there because he's the only yes vote you could find attached to someone who given some indication of daydreaming about 2016. He's not serious and has no chance.

    Now, go lock down Christie's statements on how he would have voted so it can be used against him in 2016. Pick your poison, Gov. Loudmouth. Would you rather be excoriated by the RWNJs in the primary or the rest of the country in the general?

    October 17, 2013 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  2. rs

    These so-called "leaders" of the Right each voted to send the U.S. economy off the cliff yesterday in the name of being "fiscally responsible".

    That is the sort of delusion or insanity that is the GOP today. These guys just proved there is virtually no one in the GOP that is a patriot, or that deserves to hold higher elected office in America. These people still tried to hold that hostage and put a bullet in their head, even when it was clear their coup d'etat was through. My contempt for these people probably cannot grow any larger and my anger at their hatred for our nation and their contempt for its citizens will not be forgeotten.

    The GOP really is a "dead man walking" these days- still dangerous, but largely seen for what it really is: stupid and self-serving and full of hate.

    October 17, 2013 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  3. Winston Smith

    Pictured above: Two people, soon to be standing in line for unemployment. Hopefully.

    October 17, 2013 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  4. Lynda/Minnesota

    "As Obama walked away from a news conference Wednesday night, he was asked whether he thought America would be going through this brouhaha again in a few months. His answer: "No."

    "We'll see" (sayeth CNN)
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    Ah, why all the doom and gloom, CNN? Next year is an election year. You can try and continue to prop up the TeaParty but CNN knows, and I know, that after the shellacking the GOP took these past two weeks, it is seriously doubtful that moderate Republicans are going to allow gerrymandered TeaPer constituents to once again shut down the government.

    Well, to be clear: moderates who stand back and allow TeaPers to once again "shut 'er down" will do so at their own political risk.

    Adding another note: (from Politico) "The House then moved to clear the legislation 285-144, relying mostly on Democratic votes in the Republican controlled chamber. Just 87 Republicans supported the bill while 198 Democrats voted for it. The bill was opposed by 144 Republicans, including House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan."

    These 144 Republicans will have much to discuss with their constituents in the months ahead, especially during the 2014 mid-term campaign season.

    October 17, 2013 01:35 pm at 1:35 pm |
  5. Tom

    If thi has shown anything to an actual thinker rather than a partisan, what's clear is that dems were willing to shut the govt down over their position and repubs felt that te gpvt being open and the debt ceiling being raised were more important

    October 17, 2013 01:36 pm at 1:36 pm |
  6. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    WTH is up with Ted the Turd's face?
    He looks like he's getting ready to bust out crying after that temper tantrum to nowhere he had for the past 16 days.
    Somebody get him his binkie!!

    October 17, 2013 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  7. rs

    If thi has shown anything to an actual thinker rather than a partisan, what's clear is that dems were willing to shut the govt down over their position and repubs felt that te gpvt being open and the debt ceiling being raised were more important
    ___________________________
    Delusional thinking. The GOP threatened the shutdown, and then did it. Americans and real patriots don't negotiate with hostage-taking "Banana-Republicans".

    October 17, 2013 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  8. Duke

    And all of this to try to get elected Prez, coming from a so-far-right-wignut-base that they have no real hope of being elected

    Well Cruz just wasted 24 billion of everyone's money, might as well waste a few hundred million of TPer's money trying to get elected Prez.....and he's a fiscal conservative

    October 17, 2013 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  9. Anonymous

    I hope Cruz really enjoyed reading Green Eggs and Ham. He is going to have more time on his hands in the future to read all of Dr. Suess's books to his darling little girls. Little do they know that their father is a nut case.

    October 17, 2013 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  10. Tom

    These 144 Republicans will have much to discuss with their constituents in the months ahead, especially during the 2014 mid-term campaign season.

    Will they pay the same Obama did when he voted for default in 2006? That is the exact same scenario as those that voted against this, right Sniffit?

    October 17, 2013 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  11. Rudy NYC

    Is it me, or can that Cruz fellow make some truly unusual facial expressions? Is he muttering to himself? That's usually the best way to catch an odd look on someone's face, but his mouth is always closed. Is he gritting and grinding his teeth? Whatever he's doing, I just wish that he'd bite his toungue?

    October 17, 2013 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  12. smith

    Where`s the awesome fat man(christie)? 2016, the battle between hil-dogg clinton and the awesome fat man. Sorry Obamaholics, obungles does get to play anymore.

    October 17, 2013 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  13. Lynda/Minnesota

    @Duke

    Yep. Nothing spells fiscal conservative better than milking the United States government 24 billion during a 16 day time frame.

    A new record ... which says a great deal of where GOPervilles priorities are and have always been.

    October 17, 2013 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  14. A traveler

    Has anyone else noticed that it most pictures of Ted Cruz his facial expression is that of one who both smelt it and dealt it?

    October 17, 2013 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  15. Name jk. Sfl. GOP CRUZ conservatives,the garbage of America.

    The GOP conservatives are fighting a losing battle , see above, and have no chance of ever winning the whitehouse in my lifetime or theirs, the GOP teaparty IS the garbage of America!!!!!

    October 17, 2013 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  16. RandyIA

    Just as a heads up folks. Think about what happened. Tea Party candidates stuck to what they felt was right for the people who put them in office. The moderates on the right who voted for this may get a challenge from tea party candidates. The moderates in moderate districts are able to say they voted to end the shutdown, and should be safe from the left. My guess for 2014, the Dems pick up a few, the Reps keep the house and it moves even farther right. Harry kept the Senate relatively out of play, moderate Dems may be in trouble though.

    October 17, 2013 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  17. Wake up People!

    I've been asking this question for a few months now.....here's to hoping it doesn't get zapped again.

    I would love for someone, preferably someone from the GOPT, to answer this question.

    For the past 5 years we have heard the GOPT repeatedly scream that President Obama is ineligible to be POTUS because he supposedly is Kenyan born. He has released birth certificates, birth announcements and people have even spoken out regarding his birth in Hawaii.

    None of that satisfied the GOPT. They are constantly calling him ineligible to hold the office, regardless to the fact that his mother was American from Kansas. Donald Trump even promised to blow the lid off of the 2012 election due to his secret findings.

    They also yelled daily that the POTUS didn't have the experience to be POTUS, even though he was the only one in the 2012 race with Presidential experience.

    Now enter Rafael Cruz. A first term freshman Senator born in Canada, but he is presidential material? I would like to know why the MSM gave creedence to every single person that claimed President Obama was not an American citizen, and never questioned them yet they are completely giving Rafael a free pass on the FACT that he WASN'T born in America?

    This is at least my 15th time asking this question. I hope it won't get zapped again.

    Basically what I'm saying is, how soon before we start seeing articles questioning Cruz's validity to be POTUS?

    Fair is fair......

    October 17, 2013 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  18. Hector Slagg

    At the moment it appears Hillary is the front leader of the democrats. Will anyone else run on the democrat side. Didn't I hear Joe Biden also expressed some desire to run? If so it might be interesting. So who do you like more Hillary or Joe. Or will you be sick of them. No doubt it is a bit early to be picking the next Canidiate for president.

    October 17, 2013 02:14 pm at 2:14 pm |
  19. are122

    By 2016 this country will be so far in debt China will probably run it. And it was the dolt in the White house that first ran on how "unpatriotic" is was to be a president in debt.

    October 17, 2013 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  20. Data Driven

    What's the matter, Ted? Got a lemon stuck up your fundament?

    October 17, 2013 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  21. Data Driven

    @Hector Slagg,

    "No doubt it is a bit early to be picking the next Canidiate for president."

    For once, we agree.

    October 17, 2013 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    "Will they pay the same Obama did when he voted for default in 2006? That is the exact same scenario as those that voted against this, right Sniffit?"

    First, I will say this: the debt ceiling is nonsense and was invented just so the party not in power could play politics with it. This is truly a situation, for once, in which "both sides do it." There is absolutely no reason for it to actually exist other than political gamesmanship and no Constitutional requirement for it.

    Second, in 2006, the GOP controlled both the House AND the Senate. Therefore, there was ZERO risk of default. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. The debt ceiling was going to be raised even if the GOP had to take it on the chin and do it themselves, which they did. Was Obama playing politics by letting the GOP "own" the debt ceiling increase in 2006? Yes. Was he voting for default or threatening a default on the nation's debts by doing so? NO. Not in any way shape or form. The GOP had both the House and the Senate and had no choice but to pass it. If you want to pretend that's not a huge difference, then go right ahead...I really couldn't care less whether you think it's fun to ignore important distinctions.

    This is how the politics of the debt ceiling were set up in the first place: so the majority had to own it and the party out of power gets to play politics with it. It is only when the majority refuses to own it, like the GOP/Teatrolls did in the House this time, that we have the threat of default and global economic collapse that result in damage to the economy. The stupid thing should be done away with completely.

    October 17, 2013 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  23. ST

    I really feel sorry for Ted Cruz. He jumped into the opposition without thinking first how it should be done. Ted, those who are opposing take time to study first: how they can do it, what they need to do it, and what goal they have to achieve. Talking and raising the voice up without having any strategy, doesn't sway at all those who are thinking themselves. You have tried, BUT how on that short time to be taken as a loser? I like the picture above though, really made me to put a smile on my face.

    October 17, 2013 02:37 pm at 2:37 pm |
  24. TKO

    "By 2016 this country will be so far in debt China will probably run it. And it was the dolt in the White house that first ran on how "unpatriotic" is was to be a president in debt."

    No, as percentage of GDP our National debt is, right now quite manageable. The deficit is one third what it was when Obama took office. Please stop believing what FOX and TPers tell–they have shown their true colors these past weeks. They are not honest. They don't care about most Americans. They are radicals, not conservatives. The are, well, not very smart people.

    October 17, 2013 02:37 pm at 2:37 pm |
  25. patw2100

    There will never be another democrat president after 2016.

    October 17, 2013 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
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