Sebelius on the spot in Obamacare website fiasco
October 23rd, 2013
12:14 PM ET
6 months ago

Sebelius on the spot in Obamacare website fiasco

Washington (CNN) - Call it the Obamacare website fiasco, with the focus Wednesday on Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius after she told CNN that President Barack Obama knew nothing of the problem before it became evident starting on October 1.

Sebelius heads to the White House for an afternoon meeting with insurance industry executives, then leaves town to participate with other officials in what the administration calls a "grassroots effort" to boost enrollment in Obama's signature health care reform system.

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  1. Fair is Fair

    Poor, poor Kathleen. Falling on her sword for her boss. You can join the 60 or so representatives and 7 senators who were dealt the same fate in 2010, Kitty... misery loves company.

    October 23, 2013 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  2. sonny chapman

    Has CNN reported on the State Web sites that are allowing tens of thousands to commit the Mortal Sin of signing up for Health Insurance much better than what they could have gotten BEFORE Obamacare ? Or how some Govs. put the well being of their State Citizens ahead of their hatred of Obama ?

    October 23, 2013 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  3. Babyboomer

    How about a story on who needs to resign for the 24 Billion dollar fiasco the 16 day Gov't shutdown just cost us? Hear the Crickets...

    October 23, 2013 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  4. Anonymous

    Sabelius will be "on the spot" big time when Mr. "I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks" Issa gets to
    question her.
    Funny how all of a sudden the Republicans are so concerned with the roll-out they want Sebelius fired.
    They are so concerned with how much the cost is, but had no concern over the $50B they spent trying to
    repeal the plan, and absolutely no concern over the $24B wasted by Cruz & Co.
    Wish they had acted as fast on creating jobs as they do trashing President Obama.

    October 23, 2013 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  5. bill

    @sonny chapman could you tell us what states that are?

    October 23, 2013 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  6. smith

    She needs to go. This rollout was her responsability to get it right and she failed. Obama needs to hold her accountable. That is what a good leader does.

    October 23, 2013 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  7. freedom

    How many of Obama's operatives are going to take the bullet for his illegal activities? Get some guts and integrity, people, and stand up for yourselves – and more importantly, for this great country! Let him take the fall.

    October 23, 2013 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  8. Rudy NYC

    sonny chapman

    Has CNN reported on the State Web sites that are allowing tens of thousands to commit the Mortal Sin of signing up for Health Insurance much better than what they could have gotten BEFORE Obamacare ? Or how some Govs. put the well being of their State Citizens ahead of their hatred of Obama ?
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    Some, but not much has been reported compared to the healthcare dot gov site. Not with the inexcusable display of ball dropping that seems to have occurred on the federal site. The true depth and scope of the bungled roll out appears to be so severe that willful neglect cannot be ruled out. It is unthinkable that the software/hardware was not fully tested. It is unfathomable that they would use outdated technology, as its' been reported.

    October 23, 2013 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  9. g

    what about the companies that were payed millions to do the job–should they return the money

    October 23, 2013 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  10. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair

    Poor, poor Kathleen. Falling on her sword for her boss. You can join the 60 or so representatives and 7 senators who were dealt the same fate in 2010, Kitty... misery loves company.
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    Republicans will want to make a sacrificial lamb out of her, that's for sure. But, she's not going anywhere, anytime soon. If she leaves her post, then they won't get the chance to conduct their kangaroo court.

    My guess is that she's not computer expert, and was given terribly bad advice on the operational status of the systems.

    October 23, 2013 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  11. Anonymous

    "Get some guts and integrity, people, and stand uup for yourselves-and more importanly, for this great county"!

    Good advice for the scared GOPers who are so afraid of Cruz and the tea party, they are willing to destroy
    America's economy and World standing. Railing and flailing just doesn't get the job done. Speaking of jobs-
    what happened to your promises of jobs. Oh right, you only meant your own job.

    October 23, 2013 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  12. Pam from Iowa

    I hope they are also looking for sabotage to the system.
    I put nothing past the GOP and the Flea Party – they have no scruples or morals, and have proven that they will stoop to any level of lowhandedness when they dont get their way!!

    October 23, 2013 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  13. Sniffit

    Nothing makes the MSM happier than general public ignorance of a subject (i.e., coding, website development, the vast array of legacy gov't computer systems this one had to access) providing an opportunity to sensationalize and inflate a controversy via gloss-overs and misinformation. When you have dillholes like Chuck Todd asking totally mindless questions like "couldn't you just add a server?" it's almost too obvious what they're doing...deliberately...to toy with the public's understanding of the issues. Either that or Todd himself also has no idea what he's talking about. Probably a combination of both.

    October 23, 2013 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  14. Data Driven

    @Anonymous,

    "Funny how all of a sudden the Republicans are so concerned with the roll-out they want Sebelius fired.
    They are so concerned with how much the cost is, but had no concern over the $50B they spent trying to
    repeal the plan, and absolutely no concern over the $24B wasted by Cruz & Co."

    Yeah. It's also funny how this network is not reporting on the continuing fall out from that seditious sabotage.

    It's also funny how this network is taking dollars from an advertiser that is offering direct health plans that attempt to compete with plans featured by Marketplace. But then that's no surprise coming from a network that has a show where the hosts have financial ties to their guests.

    It's been awfully funny around here, just lately.

    October 23, 2013 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  15. Rick McDaniel

    If you believe Obama did not know.......you would be a totally naive person. Of course he KNEW!

    October 23, 2013 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  16. Thomas

    @freedom
    How many of Obama's operatives are going to take the bullet for his illegal activities? Get some guts and integrity, people, and stand up for yourselves – and more importantly, for this great country! Let him take the fall.
    =====

    Do you ever have anything constructive to say , dose your party have any new ideas ?

    The answer is NO !

    No body has yet to die from a website launching failure . When you find those WMD's in Iraq , let us know !

    October 23, 2013 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
  17. Thomas

    @g
    what about the companies that were payed millions to do the job–should they return the money

    ===

    If they don't fix it , yes they should .

    October 23, 2013 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  18. Warren

    Just and FYI see how soon we forget things.. "Eight years ago, the federal government rolled out Medicare Part D, a prescription drug benefit. For the first time ever, Medicare was launching a benefit administered exclusively through private health insurance plans. The benefit was not popular: In the spring of 2005, when enrollment efforts ramped up, polls showed Medicare Part D to be less popular than the Affordable Care Act. Fewer Americans felt they understood how it worked, too." Moral of the story is relax it will work itself out..

    October 23, 2013 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  19. Sniffit

    "Funny how all of a sudden the Republicans are so concerned with the roll-out they want Sebelius fired."

    They just want a scalp. Their one and only concern with the "rollout" of the ACA has been to find ways to break, undermine, obstruct, hamper and cause it problems. From refusing en masse to set up state exchanges, which made the federal website project exponentially larger, more complex and more costly to enacting all sorts of state legislation designed to undermine cost controls (like repealing state insurance commissioner's power to negotiate and set premium rates) to refusal to expand Medicaid or enacting blatantly unconstitutional nullification laws...it's all been about breaking the ACA to "prove" it's broken. Now they want to pretend that they're concerned that it's not working perfectly? And we have to sit here and watch the MSM and it's mindless bobblehead anti-journalists HELP them spew their trash by failing to challenge the veracity of their claims, their alleged good faith or the self-contradictory nature of their behavior ("worrying" over the ACA's rollout problems after having deliberately contributed to them)? Shenanigans.

    October 23, 2013 01:06 pm at 1:06 pm |
  20. Warren

    Or maybe the Republicans should start yet another Investigation and waste more money...

    October 23, 2013 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  21. Rudy NYC

    The true irony of the Affordable Care Act is how it actually implements the right wing's "solution" for health care reform, which is to allow people to cross state borders to stimulate price competition. Well, folks. Allowing to people from different states to purchase health insurance *actually is* an implementation allowing people to cross state lines to compete for better prices.

    October 23, 2013 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    "It is unfathomable that they would use outdated technology, as its' been reported."

    Clearly you have no idea what kind of budgeting problems it caused that so many red states ceded their authority and responsibilities under the ACA to the federal gov't with respect to the exchanges. The people who cry "states rights" about EVERYTHING suddenly wanted the federal gov't to run their states' exchanges? Yeah, they were 'totally on board" with that and it had nothing to do with trying to create problems...starting FIRST with the budget. Moreover, experts are pointing out that part of the reason for the tech choice could be the elderly legacy systems present in the federal gov't already, which the website needed to interface with and which we haven't been able to replace because the GOP/Teatrolls hate the federal gov't, hate federal workers, would rather increase the defense budget than provide adequate tech to the office and database infrastructure of the federal gov't and would rather see the federal gov't fail than succeed. What happens when a brand new system needs to be backwards compatible with a system that should have been replaced 10 years ago? Go ahead...explain the answer to that questions to us. Your outrage is misplaced. Had we reasonable, rational, good faith actors on the other side of the aisle, none of this would have been an issue. Instead we have ideologue sabateurs who are getting a free pass from the MSM.

    October 23, 2013 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  23. Silence DoGood

    ""Funny how all of a sudden the Republicans are so concerned with the roll-out they want Sebelius fired."

    This is like the old joke: "the food there was terrible....and such small portions!"
    "ACA is terrible and we are concerned that people cannot get it."
    ...and a little while ago "The shut down is no big deal, exaggerated by liberals, and it is horrible and Obama caused it"

    Conservative Repubs must have like a 5 minute memory.

    October 23, 2013 01:21 pm at 1:21 pm |
  24. DP

    Hey Wolf,...Kathleen S. did not say / respond that the President did not know of the issues. Listen to her answer,...or lack thereof,....."we talked about testing..."oh great, two people at the top of the Admin food chain talking about validation of the technology rollout. You must be kidding. Report it correctly CNN. She didn't answer the question and OF Course he knew but, no way would he agree to delay the rollout.

    October 23, 2013 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  25. Sniffit

    Haha...the shark-like MSM feeding frenzy attempt to even things out after the GOP/Teatrolls did so much damage to themselveswith the shutdown...blatantly trying to tunnel-vision the country's focus onto this one narrow issue...isn't working:

    Gallup just released poll results showing that support for the ACA has ticked UP a notch (and yes, the poll was conducted AFTER the website rollout).

    October 23, 2013 01:27 pm at 1:27 pm |
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