November 6th, 2013
01:59 PM ET
5 months ago

GOP focuses on overall Obamacare troubles, not just website

Washington (CNN) - It's not about the website anymore.

Republican foes of Obamacare still use words like "disaster" and "epic" failure in describing problems with HealthCare.gov, the portal for enrolling in President Barack Obama's signature health care reforms.

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  1. Data Driven

    "It's not about the website anymore."

    Says the network that got clobbered in the ratings by focusing on it solely, to the exclusion of all other stories.

    "Is that a good thing or a bad thing?"

    November 6, 2013 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  2. jinx9to88

    Why can't the GOP just win voters back by creating jobs? They are wasting more time on Obamacare than is needed. If the GOP strongly believe Obamacare is gonna fail then let it fail then the voters will come back crawling to elect GOP representatives to change or amend the law. GOP are just pathetic people!!!

    November 6, 2013 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  3. Larry in Houston

    the gop focuses on the website, AND the AHCA......They will hammer at this, all the way up to November, 2014.....They are gambling on this so called "failed platform" & are gambling that they will have a republican sweep, in 2014. .
    They maybe right, and they may be wrong.....But it would be a fools bet.....it could go either way....Christy & McCauliffe & the democrat mayor of N.Y. wins......doesn't mean that it's going to be a Democratic sweep, or a republican sweep, in November 2014.

    November 6, 2013 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  4. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    REP. JOE BARTON (R-TX): “This is a huge undertaking and there are going to be glitches. My goal is the same as yours: Get rid of the glitches. The committee will work closely with yourself and Dr. Mark McClellan at CMS to get problems noticed and solved.” [2/15/2006]

    REP. TIM MURPHY (R-PA): “Any time something is new, there is going to be some glitches. All of us, when our children were new, well, we knew as parents we didn’t exactly know everything we were doing and we had a foul-up or two, but we persevered and our children turned out well. No matter what one does in life, when it is something new in learning the ropes of it, it is going to take a little adjustment.” [4/6/2006]

    REP. MICHAEL BURGESS (R-TX): “We can’t undo the past, but certainly they can make the argument that we are having this hearing a month late and perhaps we are, but the reality is the prescription drug benefit is 40 years late and seniors who signed up for Medicare those first days back in 1965 when they were 65 years of age are now 106 years of age waiting for that prescription drug benefit, so I hope it doesn’t take us that long to get this right and I don’t believe that it will. And I do believe that fundamentally it is a good plan.” [“Medicare Part D: Implementation of the New Drug Benefit,” 3/1/2006]

    REP. PHIL GINGREY (R-GA): “I delivered 5,200 babies, but this may be the best delivery that I have ever been a part of, Mr. Speaker, and that is delivering, as I say, on a promise made by former Congresses and other Presidents over the 45-year history of the Medicare program, which was introduced in 1965 with no prescription drug benefit. And what we have done here is add part D, the ‘D’ for ‘drug’ or, if you want, the ‘delivery’ that we have finally provided to our American seniors.” [4/6/06]

    November 6, 2013 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  5. Tampa Tim

    Republicans have no accomplishments to run on in 2014, so they act out against anyone who tries to help Americans.

    November 6, 2013 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  6. just saying

    it was never, repeat never, just about the web site fiasco. that was just another example of why obamacare is a disaster for the american people. 3 years and hundreds of millions of dollars spent and they were warned of the problems but for purely political reasons they blasted forward into the very disaster they were warned about. but they really don't care about the american people as this is all about saving face for obama at this point. the american people are simply acceptable collateral damage to obama and his incompetent administration.

    yes, this has always been about the obamacare train wreck the republicans have been warning the american people about for over 4 years now. republican senator mike enzi as far back as sept. 2010 warned this was going to happen after he read the federal register. he even proposed legislation to make sure the american people could keep their healthcare plans if they liked them. the democrats attacked him and shot it down.

    and now millions are losing their healthcare plans as predicted and warned about and obama still lies about it to this day, even though obama is on tape many many times lying through his teeth to the american people. and this is just one of the lies he and the democrats have told the american people to force this disaster down our throats. obamacare was the biggest fraud and deception ever perpetrated on the american population and it was done entirely by obama, redi, pelosi and their democrats followers. the american people will remember this in 2014 & 2016.

    obama's great legacy will be the disaster he conned the american people about. now you all know why he and the democrats delayed att this until after the 2012 election. had the american people known the extent of the obama lies and what its costs would be to them, obama would have been thrown out last november. his approval rating now sits in the 30's as more and more americans se him for the pathological liar that he is.

    November 6, 2013 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  7. Tampa Tim

    I forgot, the republicans did shut down government and almost created a global economic crisis.

    November 6, 2013 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  8. Woman In California

    Yes, let's talk about "Obamacare" or anything for that matter to keep the focus off our party and the tombstone being chosen to bear our name.

    November 6, 2013 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  9. Sniffit

    "It's not about the website anymore."

    Yeah, we get it CNN, the website is fixable, will eventually be fixed and is a dead-end as far as perpetuating nontroversies is concerned, so you're desperately helping the GOP/Teatrolls pivot to some other disingenuous, hypocritical self-righteous faux outrage nontroversy. Watching them whine about one false statement when you can go to any fact checking organization's website to find a massive list of false statements made by the GOP/Teatrolls regarding the ACA is nothing but disgusting. Having to watch the MSM feed off it like a parasite and help them broadcast their disingenuous faux outrage to attack the ACA just because it provides convenient red meat for sensationalizing a nontroversy in hopes of kicking up more ad revenue...well, that's just sad and pathetic.

    November 6, 2013 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  10. sonny chapman

    And what is the Repub. SOLUTION to the very real problem of 45,000 extra-vitro Americans dying each year from no Health Insurance ?

    November 6, 2013 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  11. Fair is Fair

    jinx9to88

    If the GOP strongly believe Obamacare is gonna fail then let it fail then the voters will come back crawling to elect GOP representatives to change or amend the law.
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    The GOP is simply emphasizing that they've tried – and tried, and tried – to warn about the disaster that is the ACA. There is no "IF"... it's going to fail, and fail miserably. Just wait until this time next year when the employer mandate kicks in and the numbers of people getting their cancellation notices increases exponentially (they won't be coming from their insurance companies... they'll becoming from their employers). What happened to the dems in 2010 will look like good times in comparison. Mark my words.

    November 6, 2013 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  12. Sniffit

    "the american people will remember this in 2014 & 2016."

    You said that about November 2012 and, oh my goodness, you predicted it for November 2013 too. Tell you what, if you can get President Romney to agree with you in writing, then I'll believe you about 2014 and 2016. Deal?

    November 6, 2013 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  13. Fair is Fair

    sonny chapman

    And what is the Repub. SOLUTION to the very real problem of 45,000 extra-vitro Americans dying each year from no Health Insurance ?
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    Hey sonny – how many of those 45,000 would have died even if they HAD health insurance?

    November 6, 2013 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  14. Sniffit

    "And what is the Repub. SOLUTION to the very real problem of 45,000 extra-vitro Americans dying each year from no Health Insurance ?"

    Crematoriums and bigger graveyards.

    November 6, 2013 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  15. Donna

    jinx9to88
    Why can't the GOP just win voters back by creating jobs?
    -–

    They are trying to create and protect jobs by getting rid of Obamacare. That is the next big shoe (and many more) to drop about Obamacare. The law incentivizes NOT hiring people as well as shifting people to less than full time employment. Obama knows this which is why he delayed the employer mandate. They could already see it in the employment numbers and knew it would spell disaster to the Democrats in the elections.

    And now Obamacare is focring people to pay MUCH MORE for their healthcare plans. That is all money taken away from a person's discretionary spending. Obamacare is going to take this very stagnant, no jobs Obama "recovery" and throw it into recession. Over the last 5 years, the wages of Americans has continued to decline as there is not enough demand for labor. And now all of Obamacare's taxes and added cost will nail the American people in the pocketbook like never seen before.

    But to Obama, he doesn't care. He is on tape saying the cost of electricity "will necessarily skyrocket" because of his shutting down coal fire power plants. ANd the cost of Obamacare will do the same, but he simply doesn't care. The ends justiofies the means. His far left ideology takes precedent over everything else and to the detriment of the American people.

    November 6, 2013 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  16. NATHAN WIMBERLY

    The NRA wouldn't give money to Young, the tea potty wingnut in Alabama and he lost. Of course they want to talk about Obamacare and ANYTHING but that fact.

    November 6, 2013 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  17. Tampa Tim

    Fair – 45,000 is the number that died who did not have insurance. My question to you, "How many uninsured have to die to get your attention?"

    November 6, 2013 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  18. Lynda/Minnesota

    "Next week we are going to roll out the phrases 'Armegeddon' and 'Judgement Day' to describe the website problems."

    I'm surprised they haven't already. Well, folks have said repeatedly that the GOP does have the majority on doom and gloom. Personally all that doom and gloom day the wallow in and day out would push me into an early grave.

    November 6, 2013 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  19. Sniffit

    "Hey sonny – how many of those 45,000 would have died even if they HAD health insurance?"

    Those who fell into that category were explicitly identified and excluded from the estimate. Why don't you try reading the Kaiser Foundation and other organizations' studies instead of looking silly for so desperately trying to make that number look "made up" by using fake arguments already considered and addressed in the experts' methodologies?

    November 6, 2013 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  20. Lynda/Minnesota

    Oops. Not sure if my previous comment will get posted, but if it does I should have written "...doom and gloom they wallow in day in and day out ..."

    Oh, well...

    November 6, 2013 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  21. vic , nashville ,tn

    GOP good luck
    Even last night exit polls show focus on Jobs

    November 6, 2013 02:36 pm at 2:36 pm |
  22. sonny chapman

    Hey Fair-Should we exclude some of the Holocaust numbers because some of them would have probably died anyway ?

    November 6, 2013 02:40 pm at 2:40 pm |
  23. jinx9to88

    @ Donna

    "And now Obamacare is focring people to pay MUCH MORE for their healthcare plans."

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    GOP act like insurance costs weren't going up before Obamacare. Where in the heck have you people been? Kentucky (which has a form of obamacare called Knect) is one of the reddest of all red states says the opposite of what your saying. And to blame Obamacare for the reason people wages are crappy is funny. People wages were crappy way before Obamacare came along. Why won't the GOP help raise the minimum wage? GOP followers need to get out of fox bubble the weather is nice out here in the real world.

    November 6, 2013 02:40 pm at 2:40 pm |
  24. The Real Tom Paine

    You know, its incredible to listen to the conservative posters in here. There is no optimism, no belief that this country can do anything: everything that Ronald Reagan taught the Conservative movement has been lost in a swamp of negative thoughts, words and deeds that make Herbert Hoover seem like the life of the party. They are all assigning blame onto the ACA, the website, the supposed evil machinations of President Obama ( a man they deride as both incompetant and as an evil genius: make up your mind, wilya?): We will survice the launching of the ACA, the same way we have survived WW2, the 60s, Watergate, and every other debacle, self-inflicted and otherwise: by doing our jobs, particpating and making sure that things work, and fix them when they don't. I have no doubt we will make this work.

    November 6, 2013 02:49 pm at 2:49 pm |
  25. truth hurts but reality bites

    Sniffit
    Having to watch the MSM feed off it like a parasite and help them broadcast their disingenuous faux outrage to attack the ACA just because it provides convenient red meat for sensationalizing a nontroversy in hopes of kicking up more ad revenue...
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    Gotta love the leftist talking points that when several millions of Americn citizens lose their health care insurance because their President LIED to them, and they are left to pay 2-3 times more for a replacement, that that is a made up "nontroversy".

    Geez, this type of response seems to be the same no matter what the disaster, no matter what the magnitude of the disaster, that the Obama administration brings upon te American people, or their 4 employees in Benghazi, or their Border Patrol employee, or the Tea Party that they target using the IRS, or..... The pattern is well established Mr. Sniffit. You will need a new schtick to cover up the Presidents incompetence.

    November 6, 2013 02:50 pm at 2:50 pm |
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