Supreme Court allows NSA to continue looking at telephone records for now
November 18th, 2013
10:23 AM ET
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Supreme Court allows NSA to continue looking at telephone records for now

Washington (CNN) - The U.S. Supreme Court will allow the National Security Agency's surveillance of domestic telephone communication records to continue for now.

The justices without comment Monday rejected an appeal from a privacy rights group, which claimed a secret federal court improperly authorized the government to collect the electronic records.

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  1. Gurgyl

    SC dictum is wise.

    November 18, 2013 10:43 am at 10:43 am |
  2. The REAL Truth...

    No surprises there... but the right wing will use anything and everything to convince the sheeple that it's all Obama's fault.. even if groups like the NSA and legislation like FISA, NDAA and the Patriot Act were NOT STARTED BY HIM !!
    But then, it doesn't take much to convince ignornant low-information voters.

    November 18, 2013 10:52 am at 10:52 am |
  3. just saying

    secret federal courts??? the american people have lost control of their government if there are secret federal courts. what next? secret federal groups that go around rounding up people at night? i don't trust obama and his leftist lunatics with this kind of power. they have already proven to the american people they will use the power of the federal government against the people and in particular, against their political adversaries.

    November 18, 2013 10:53 am at 10:53 am |
  4. Rick McDaniel

    Sure........they just rubber stamp Obama's political spying.

    November 18, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  5. John

    If the "right leaning" supreme court has ruled for continued surveilance, won't that be a little difficult for the tea party to make this an issue in the upcoming election?

    November 18, 2013 11:03 am at 11:03 am |
  6. Rudy NYC

    Good. I disagree with the "balance" between security and privacy that some of these advocacy groups have. These neo-Libertarians running around think that everything the government does should be broadcast to the world: i,e, Eric Snowden.

    November 18, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  7. Malory Archer

    Rick McDaniel

    They're just rubber stamp political spying that's been going on since the founding of America. Technology has just made it more efficient.

    November 18, 2013 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  8. Malory Archer

    John

    If the "right leaning" supreme court has ruled for continued surveilance, won't that be a little difficult for the tea party to make this an issue in the upcoming election?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Nah, they'll just blame President Obama. If you have any doubts, please refer to rick mcd's comment of 10:59 for their standard whining point.

    November 18, 2013 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  9. Rudy NYC

    just saying

    secret federal courts??? the american people have lost control of their government if there are secret federal courts. what next? secret federal groups that go around rounding up people at night? i don't trust obama and his leftist lunatics with this kind of power. they have already proven to the american people they will use the power of the federal government against the people and in particular, against their political adversaries.
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    Junior created and started up your "secret federal courts". The problem was; he didn't bother using them. All of this was exposed in 2006, and the American people didn't seem to mind it one bit. More than 50% of Americans approved of the NSA's unwarranted wiretaps, "unwarranted" meaning no court hearing and approval. The Bush administration was doing whatever it felt like doing.

    The Obama administration come in, puts a stop to the practice, and requires that all wiretaps first have a warrant. Suddenly, the American people disapprove of the wiretaps when it is authorized by a court. But, the approve of wiretaps when they are not authorized by a court. Those are the facts. Does it make any sense to you? IOKIYAR

    November 18, 2013 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  10. Sniffit

    "what next? secret federal groups that go around rounding up people at night?"

    Isn't that what you want us to do to immigrants? Come on now...tell us you don't get a little tingle up your leg when imaging every illegal immigrant family in the country having o deal with an Elian Gonzalez in the closet moment. You know you do.

    November 18, 2013 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  11. Sniffit

    "i don't trust obama and his leftist lunatics with this kind of power. "

    Blah blah. You sure did "trust" it when it was in the hands of a white POTUS, who demanded these powers and pushed for enactment of the legislation while his entire party demagogued Muslims as the evil boogeyman who made it necessary to give those powers to the gov't. You sure didn't mind then. Neither did the MSM, who ran stories on all the data being collected all with the tone of a "human interest" piece, rather than breathless pearl-clutching about how this power might be abused. We all warned you and you didn't listen because it was your "side" demanding these things and your "side" that would have control over them (you thought). Suddenly you whistle a different tune when it's not.

    November 18, 2013 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  12. jinx9to88

    LMAO!! When the Supreme Court sides with Obama, they are terrible but when the side with the GOP like voting rights the Supreme Court is the best thing since slice bread. GOP are hypocrites!!

    November 18, 2013 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  13. Sniffit

    " won't that be a little difficult for the tea party to make this an issue in the upcoming election?

    Nope. Cognitive dissonance is their bread and butter, and the MSM is more than willing to whitewash any such internal conflicts in their arguments and help them paper over any blatant hypocrisy. IOKIYAR

    November 18, 2013 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  14. just saying

    Sniffit
    Isn't that what you want us to do to immigrants? Come on now...tell us you don't get a little tingle up your leg when imaging every illegal immigrant family in the country having o deal with an Elian Gonzalez in the closet moment. You know you do.
    -–

    people in this country illegally have no reason to believe they will never be arrested and deported. if they din't want to live with that fear then they should not have invaded our country and violated our laws. i know the leftists just like to enforce the laws they like while ignoring others, or using the laws to benefit them politically.

    democrats and lefitsts have totally destroyed the concept of equal protection under the law. democrats are a criminal party more concerned with their criminal supporters than in the rule of law and the conststent application of the laws.

    November 18, 2013 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  15. JCDavis

    Actually, this is the SC indicating the lower federal courts have jurisdiction over the FISC. As in the case being heard today.

    November 18, 2013 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  16. The Real Tom Paine

    People have this misguided notion that just because we live in a democratic republic, that everything will be open to imput from us. We elect representatives to debate these things on our behalf, we have a judiciary that is independent of the executive, and we have a chance to have a peaceful transfer of power every 4 years. None of these things means that we will know everything about what our government does. For the first 6 years in the last decade, we had the legislative, judiciary and the executive branches of government run by one party who ruthlessly used that political advantage to press forward things that were not always in our best long term interest, but were enacted anyway to make us safe. Now, with divided government, we find we still have situations that require secrecy because the very actions they supported less than a decade ago are now suddenly anathema to the party that formerly controlled every branch of government. This is not over a sudden discovery of civil rights or rights to privacy, this is about pure politics, and the politics of reducing your opponant to being an inhuman traitor in order to hang on to whatever vestige of credibility your side may think it still has. The GOP's aboutface on these issues is insincere at best, and ammoral at worst. they have turned their back on everything they previously stood for, in favor of a patchwork ideology that would have Buckley rolling in his grave. We know what the GOP will do when it has the opportunity, since they ahve chased anyone with an original thought or a desire to actually work with people for the common good out of their party.

    November 18, 2013 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
  17. Donna

    The American people have no privacy at all anymore. Anybody going to the Obamacare web site has to hand over to the federal government everything in terms of personal information. I'm sure it will become the new federal centrailized database with information on every US citizen. One stop shopping for federal agencies that want to know everything about you, no warrants necessary. And when it gets hacked, as it eventually will, everything about you will be out on the internet. Another wonderful benefit of Obamacare.

    November 18, 2013 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  18. Rudy NYC

    just saying wrote:

    people in this country illegally have no reason to believe they will never be arrested and deported. if they din't want to live with that fear then they should not have invaded our country and violated our laws. i know the leftists just like to enforce the laws they like while ignoring others, or using the laws to benefit them politically.

    democrats and lefitsts have totally destroyed the concept of equal protection under the law. democrats are a criminal party more concerned with their criminal supporters than in the rule of law and the conststent application of the laws
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    First of all, your talk of an alien invasion is pure lunacy. The facts are that immigration policies were dramatically changed under Reagan, Bush-41, and Bush-43. The vulture capitalists saw immigrants as a source of cheap, union busting labor. Republicans enacted policies that made it attactive for immigrants to come here, and stymie unions in their tracks.

    It was Republicans who had originally pushed for immigrants being able to recieve federal benefits like food stamps, welfare, and Medicaid under Reagan. It was Republicans under Bush-41 that pushed for legislation that no longer required employers to send both W-4 and I-9 forms for all new employees. They directed that employers should keep the I-0 on file, just in case INS agents should appear at the job site. Finally, it was the Bush-43 administration and his Republican Congress who had decreed that employers did not need to keep I-9 forms on file forever. They could throw them out after a mere three years.

    November 18, 2013 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  19. A True Conservative

    No Sniffy – we want illegal aliens to obey the law. I know that the concept may be foreign to you, but some of us still believe in the law and we follow it....even when we don't like it......Besides, I thought Obama was going to take care of these things....close Gitmo....imrove our standing in the world.....I guess he lied aout those things too.....suckers!

    November 18, 2013 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  20. Anonymous

    "secret federal courts?. The american people have lost control of their government if we have secret federal courts.."
    --
    Are you kidding me? FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) was established in 1978 and is a "secret court".
    It has been amended several times, and GW Bush used it for illegal wire tapping. Judges meet in rooms without
    windows.

    Google it or read about it at Wikipedia. But, I guess that would be asking too much of you. After all, you are driven by
    pure hate........... and apparently ignorance.

    just sayin........................

    November 18, 2013 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  21. Tommy G

    52% of Americans do not think Obama is honest. These massive powers combined with an untruthworthy and dishonest person in the White House is a formula for disaster as we have already seen in the case of the IRS. Our days as a democratic republic are numbered. It is only a matter of time. All of the mechanisms are already in place just waiting for our future dictator to flip the switch.

    November 18, 2013 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    LOL. I love that I can hyperbolically refer to the photo of Elian Gonzalez with a military rifle in his face and you just glibly confirm that you think it's a perfectly ok approach for addressing immigration reform....creating a police state that results in those situations. And you wonder why the minority population in this country can't stand you people?

    As for your continued nonsense about who is or isn't enforcing the law: scoreboard. Obama has more troops on the border than any POTUS before him, more tech and hardware and has set records for deportations every year, blowing out every POTUS before him by a fair margin for how many people he's "sent back where they came from." The Dem Senate just passed a largely bipartisan bill that would DOUBLE the number of troops on the border to 48,000, would increase the tech available to them (drones, helicopters, etc.), and would build a $3B "dang fence". Your mischaracterization of Obama's exercise of executive power and prosecutorial discretion to prioritize deportation proceedings for certain groups of immigrants (dangerous felons) over others (innocent children brought here by their parents) is dishonest and nothing more than an attempt to misinform people. Further, your mischaracterization of the Dems' willingness to enact solutions designed to secure the border is just an outright lie.

    November 18, 2013 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  23. A True Conservative

    @ Tom Paine "we had the legislative, judiciary and the executive branches of government run by one party who ruthlessly used that political advantage to press forward things that were not always in our best long term interest, but were enacted anyway"

    Kind of like what we have now – the House passes a Bill, the Senate refuses to take it up and the President says that he will not negotiate.....or the ACA that was passed without a SINGLE Republican vote....Ha! Look what that got us! At least when we went to war in the middle east there was support from both sides....though now one side seems to have amnesia.....but isn't video great? We can hear the lefties supporting the action over and over and......

    November 18, 2013 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  24. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    The justices without comment Monday rejected an appeal from a privacy rights group,
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    "Without comment". He-he!
    In other words: shut up and sit down, the security of the nation takes precedence over your little tantrum about this administration abusing your personal freedoms blah, blah, blah, but Patriot Act okay under Bush blah, blah, blah.
    They didn't even rate an explanation from the justices. Good deal.

    November 18, 2013 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  25. Sniffit

    " Anybody going to the Obamacare web site has to hand over to the federal government everything in terms of personal information"

    No it doesn't.

    "And when it gets hacked, as it eventually will, everything about you will be out on the internet. "

    Right next to those Facebook photos of you doing a keg stand and the post you made to your ex-boyfriend while drunk one night that dumped all sorts of personal information on the intertubez about your sex life when you were with him. Yawn.

    But hey, don't let reality stop your demagoguery...I'm surprised you guys aren't already vomiting up the newest tripe the GOP/Teatrolls are pushing, claiming that all the people who are "navigators" are actually convicted felons trying to steal everyone's identities. Little slow on the uptake are you? Come on...get it in gear...you're like 3 demagoguery talking points behind.

    November 18, 2013 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
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