December 15th, 2013
12:43 PM ET
9 months ago

Panel: Is Obama's 'lie of the year' a GOP win?

The President's promise on Obamacare is called "the lie of the year." State of the Union's political panel discusses.

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  1. Malory Archer

    "Is Obama's 'lie of the year' a win for the gotp?"

    No, no it isn't.

    December 16, 2013 08:23 am at 8:23 am |
  2. TXMAN

    Not a GOP win, but a loss for the American people.

    December 16, 2013 08:35 am at 8:35 am |
  3. Andy

    A win for the GOP????? How about a loss for the American people.

    December 16, 2013 08:40 am at 8:40 am |
  4. David Townsend

    As was stated above, I never imagined that insurance companies would prefer to drop policies rather than make the mandated changes. We all know that there is an open enrollment period, and changes occur at that time. My thought was that those insurance companies would have made comparable offers with the mandated changes. I support the law and don't believe that the POTUS should be blamed for those rogue companies.

    December 16, 2013 08:52 am at 8:52 am |
  5. ghostwriter

    I really do feel that this one is just kinda silly. One poster hit the nail on the head. The grandfathered clause did cover what he said. The issue was that there was a 3 year gap between passing the bill and implementation. And insurance companies were changing plans.

    This simplistic game of "gotcha" seems like CNN's attempt to look like they are being fair.

    December 16, 2013 08:57 am at 8:57 am |
  6. MaryM

    A group of CA citizens are suing Blue Shield for cancelling their 2010 ACA grandfathered in insurance policies. It will be interesting to see who wins that suit

    December 16, 2013 08:58 am at 8:58 am |
  7. ChrisM

    The Americans People hate the GOP/TP much, much more.
    Just look at the approval rating for the GOP

    December 16, 2013 09:02 am at 9:02 am |
  8. Rudy NYC

    They've forgotten to point out that "tax cuts for the wealthy and big businesses creates jobs for the middle class and the poor" makes the top ten every year. That whopper has to be the biggest political lie of all time, and they're still telling it.

    December 16, 2013 09:08 am at 9:08 am |
  9. Tony

    First, Obama's statement is true for most Americans. Most Americans get to keep their health insurance plans. Second, almost everything Republicans have said about the ACA turns out to be false or not entirely true (death panel, government is taking over health care, Congress is exempt from Obamacare, the IRS will have a database that keep tabs on all Americans, no U.S. doctors will accept Obamacare, and the list goes on). Third, what exactly have Republicans won? The polls? Romney was leading in the Gallup Poll before the 2012 election. How much good did that do for him?

    December 16, 2013 09:34 am at 9:34 am |
  10. Fair is Fair

    David Townsend

    As was stated above, I never imagined that insurance companies would prefer to drop policies rather than make the mandated changes. We all know that there is an open enrollment period, and changes occur at that time. My thought was that those insurance companies would have made comparable offers with the mandated changes. I support the law and don't believe that the POTUS should be blamed for those rogue companies.
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    The "madated changes" you refer to make the policies a LOT more expensive. The people who used to own them DONT WANT to pay for the "mandated changes". They LIKED their old policy. Period.

    December 16, 2013 09:35 am at 9:35 am |
  11. rs

    The GOP fails to realize just how bad their credibility is. There hasn't been a single national or regional issue they haven't been caught lying on. It is as if those cats genetically are unable to tell the truth.
    The GOP economic plan- a lie- it is socialism for the rich
    The GOP plan for the middle class- get poor
    The GOP plan for Healthcare- die fast
    The GOP plan for women- little better than breeding cattle
    The GOP plan for minorities-see "middle class" above
    The GOP plan for foreign policy-war
    The GOP plan for the environment- "we're waiting for the rapture"
    The GOP plan for outreach-lie

    December 16, 2013 09:39 am at 9:39 am |
  12. Gurgyl

    What lies? ACA is a Law. Mandated changes are not Expensive, so only lot of people are enrolling.
    We all know GOP bribing caused insurance thugs to cancel the insurances to blame this Law.
    ACA is a Law, it is not going away. GOP is in limbo, doomed for fifty years or so. True.

    December 16, 2013 09:44 am at 9:44 am |
  13. rs

    Jaden Ryan

    The people who are being negative toward Republicans are blind. They can't see their very freedom is at risk via the dems.
    ________________________
    The only "freedom" the GOP gives us all is the freedom to die from preventable disease and no health care, and the the certainty that some rich guy controls his salary and ours- and we see how well that works. The Waltons "earn" $1.3 billion EACH per year, their workers average $8 an hour part time and qualify for food assistance. That is GOP's version of "freedom" for America.

    December 16, 2013 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  14. rs

    The "madated changes" you refer to make the policies a LOT more expensive. The people who used to own them DONT WANT to pay for the "mandated changes". They LIKED their old policy. Period.
    _________________________
    Yeah, I LOVED the cap on spending for my health care, I LOVED being told I had a pre-existing condition that wouldn't be covered. I LOVED the 20% per year increases so some fat-cat insurance company could make a greater than 25% profit. I LOVED it when my "network" wanted me to travel 128 miles to another city for treatment. I LOVED that my doctor left my old company because they wouldn't pay him.
    I LOVE that the ACA fixed all that.

    December 16, 2013 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  15. Bessy

    What a stupid question. CNN just has to keep trying to keep things stirred up.
    There were no lies, just statements made from a man, our president, who is trying to do the best for his country without any help from the GOP.

    December 16, 2013 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  16. Malory Archer

    Marty O'tella

    I don't like Obamacare and would love to see it defunded. I realize, however, that it would be better if we could simply vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act. That will not happen because of the President and the Senate which is mostly liberals. Our millitary should be well financed and Obama's spending should be gone over under a microscope. Obama's lack of support for Israel is another indication that he is a Muslim.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, except there aren't enough votes in the Senate to make repeal of the ACA happen, and if the American electorate were to vote it as a referendum, it's doubtful you'd get your way because even though a great many Americans aren't thrilled with with the ACA (a lot of Americans don't think it goes far enough), the vast majority realize it's better than what they had before.

    As for the rest of your post, America spends more than the next 15 nations combined on military expenditures, and your final comment isn't even worthy of a response.

    December 16, 2013 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  17. rs

    Rudy NYC

    They've forgotten to point out that "tax cuts for the wealthy and big businesses creates jobs for the middle class and the poor" makes the top ten every year. That whopper has to be the biggest political lie of all time, and they're still telling it.
    ______________________
    That is a good one Rudy, but I still have a great fondness for "The Iraq War will pay for itself". As well as "deficts don't matter".

    December 16, 2013 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  18. just saying

    CNN covering for Obama again! When will people wake up, vote in this gop and watch your savings disappear. Tax breaks for the rich, who are already making record profits, look how well the average joe is doing, the wealth is still going straight to the top.

    December 16, 2013 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  19. Sniffit

    "The "madated changes" you refer to make the policies a LOT more expensive. The people who used to own them DONT WANT to pay for the "mandated changes". They LIKED their old policy. Period."

    Too bad their policies were bad for the economy, barely provided any real coverage and were a major cause of skyrocketing health care and insurance costs FOR EVERYONE, not to mention a major source of personal bankruptcies (the number one reason for personal bankruptcies in this country is medical costs). Why should the rest of us have to tolerate those effects just so they can run around pretending to have insurance when they're really just buying a bunk product that helps make matters worse? Answer: we shouldn't and Congress was well within its powers to address the situation by setting minimum standards for the industry.

    December 16, 2013 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  20. Sniffit

    Remember when CNN asked this same question after the GOP/Teatrolls were gifted with "lie of the year"?

    Yeah, neither do I. IOKIYAR

    December 16, 2013 09:59 am at 9:59 am |
  21. RandyIA

    @Bubba

    The GOP sabotaged Obamacare, then calls the President out for telling lies. This is similar to the Taliban claiming Israel is not keeping the people Jerusalem safe.
    If you buy into the GOP line, then the joke is on you. Obama may have lost 2-3 points in the middle, but his base just hardened, and that will open the money coffers to Democrat politicians in 2014.

    ==================

    How could the GOP sabotage Obamacare, none of them voted for it. None of them changed it. None of them have funded/defunded, This program good or bad is solely on the Dems.

    December 16, 2013 10:05 am at 10:05 am |
  22. RandyIA

    @Thomas

    First of all , nobody has died or been blown up over the Affordable Healthcare Act.

    The GOP sure din't make any waves about going to war looking for WMD's that didn't exist .

    When you go to the hospital your going to see a specialist, you rarely see your own doctor anyway .

    The do nothing republicans would rather sell out to corporations then help citizens .

    unless , corporations are people too ?

    =========

    If I remember right, even if this was based on a lie, I believe there as a 99% vote in congress to take action in Iraq. Both parties supported it.

    December 16, 2013 10:09 am at 10:09 am |
  23. rs

    The real gift of the GOP (as proved here daily on this blog) is that it can get Americans over and over again to vote for them and their rich patrons and against their own self-interest. Why anyone making less than $150 k would vote for the GOP is an amazing thing. The GOP stands firmly against the rights of workers, they underine liveable wage laws, are against civil rights and voting rights, stand against unions, are against equal pay for women (and minorities), and are even against the radical notion that women should have some say over their own bodies.
    The GOP is the party for only the 1% -figure it out people.

    December 16, 2013 10:10 am at 10:10 am |
  24. ThinkAgain

    Lie of the Year stats:

    2012 = Mitt Romney (He claimed Jeep was moving its U.S. production to China)
    2011 = Democrats claim that repubs were ending Medicare
    2010 = Republicans claim that Obamacare is a "government takeover" of healthcare
    2009 = Palin claims (on Facebook, no less) that under Obamacare, people would have to "stand in front of Obama's death panel" which would decide whether people are "worthy" to live and be given medical treatment.

    BTW, Palin's lie was so outrageous that it prompted PolitiFact to start tracking the "Lie of the Year."

    So, CNN, how about a nice, long juicy article about ALL the "lies of the year," pointing out that it was Palin who started the ball rolling, that of the 5 that have been chosen, 3 belong to repubs.

    December 16, 2013 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  25. RandyIA

    @Anthony in California

    Lets be real honest with ourselves here.

    Whats worse?
    Lying about whether a person can keep their doctor? (but Health Care still remain affordable)
    or
    Shutting down the government? (wasting 24 billion dollars)

    =====
    Do you really want to make that comparison? If both decisions are based on convictions, the shut down was in your face, this is what we want to do. The lie was told to keep the American people from seeing what was really going to happen. If that is your sense of morality, no wonder this country is going down the toilet. How can those 2 things even be compared?

    December 16, 2013 10:13 am at 10:13 am |
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