What the next debt ceiling fight will look like
December 19th, 2013
10:42 AM ET
10 months ago

What the next debt ceiling fight will look like

New York (CNNMoney) -- House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said this week that Republicans will demand something in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling early next year.

The White House, meanwhile, said it won't negotiate on the issue.

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  1. The Real Tom Paine

    The GOP just can't help themselves, can they?

    December 19, 2013 10:46 am at 10:46 am |
  2. The Real Tom Paine

    This is about money already spent: I guess that does not exist in the minds of Ryan and Co.

    December 19, 2013 10:50 am at 10:50 am |
  3. Winning

    A perfect example of why I will never vote Republican until these idiots are no longer in control of it.

    If they wanted to have a fight about spending, FINE, I agree with them that we are spending to much, but that fight should have been over the BUDGET, which dictates how much and on what we spend money. Instead, they decided to spend the money, and now are going to have a fight over whether or not they should pay the mother loving bills that they authorized in the budget.

    Are Americans really this stupid to not see through this? I don't see how any conservative can back these tactics.

    December 19, 2013 10:52 am at 10:52 am |
  4. rs

    The next debt ceiling fight will be the end of the GOP. Everytime they pull this idiocy their remaining popularity tanks. Restore tax rates on top earners and corporations to pre-Reagan era; cut the military, and move on.

    December 19, 2013 10:53 am at 10:53 am |
  5. rs

    The Real Tom Paine

    This is about money already spent: I guess that does not exist in the minds of Ryan and Co.
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    Quite so- Money they already authorised to be spent. These people ARE clueless.

    December 19, 2013 10:54 am at 10:54 am |
  6. Lynda/Minnesota

    In view of how fond CNN is of polling data, why has there been no McConnell polling data for folks to chuckle and giggle over?

    December 19, 2013 10:55 am at 10:55 am |
  7. Winning

    So to make this clear, the Republicans authorized all kinds of spending in the budget, which, by the way, passed the Republican controlled house with plenty of Republican support. They authorize the spending, and now saw well, we're not going to pay the bills on what we authorized.

    It's complete fricken insanity from these people. Fight over the budget. They budget is where the spending comes from. Fight over that. Shut down the government over that if you feel strongly enough about it, but don't shaft everyone in the country over the debt ceiling YOU GOD DANG SELFISH JERKS!

    December 19, 2013 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  8. S.B. Stein

    I would like to know why they are even considering this. They know that the last time this issue came up there was a down grade in the credit rating. I would hope that they don't block it. Personally, I think that if there is a serious GOP opposition to raising the debt ceiling (which should be done away with altogether), the president should have all military forces and bases move from Republican districts and have all federal offices move to Democrat controlled areas. That is if there a serious fight. The GOP has to show what it is willing to cut of its favored projects.

    December 19, 2013 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  9. Larry in Houston

    To be perfectly honest, didn't 'ole Mitch get something for his state, while he was in "secret" negotiations w/ Reed ? 'ole Mitch ended up getting Billions (with a B) in some type of earmark, or something, wasn't it ?

    Hate to be a bearer of bad tidings, IT will happen again.....They will fight till the last minute, or the 11th hr, then somebody will end up getting some type of "earmark" for their state......none of these repos in congress deserves a pass, ( or to be an elected official in Congress)

    December 19, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  10. current state of the union

    And here it is, the real reason the budget went through, so they can play the " dems won't comprise" card. All the while hoping you don't make the connection that they just agreed on this spending, tired of the gop playing you for a fool yet? Anyone who understands the goal, see this as their way of showing you they want compromise, when in fact they only want more of the same: hurt the workers and blame it on someone else, like the memorial closings and the nih closing: nothing but games.I for one lost all hope for the gop, used yo vote Republican, just can't understand how you can vote for a party that wants to control who gets to vote, is it.really that hard to imagine where it goes from there, or are you convinced it will out you in a better position.my grandmother always told me the ones who get played are the ones looking for an unfair advantage

    December 19, 2013 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  11. current state of the union

    Is it me, or would the logical time to discuss spending limits be when you craft the budget? Why agree to a budget, only to argue over paying the bills resulting from a budget, .only in gop ville does this make sense
    I am inclined to believe the reason the gop will fail is the underestimate how stupid people are . It doesn't take much to disclaim all gop talking points, a quick Google or fact check is all it takes.

    December 19, 2013 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  12. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    For the republicans own sake, they better not threaten our credit again.

    December 19, 2013 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  13. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    They look like father and son don't they?
    Look really close....creepy.
    Tired of the bickering, intransigence and just general "what's in it for me(state)" attitude.
    It's Christmas. Go suck down some eggnog.

    December 19, 2013 11:13 am at 11:13 am |
  14. Keith ..... in Oregon

    I don't understand the comments blaming the Republicans for being hardline and uncompromising. Did people read the first two paragraphs? The GOP says "we want something in return this time." The White House said, "No".

    I'm going to ask my alma mater for my money back for the logic class I took.

    December 19, 2013 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  15. Silence DoGood

    GOP: Hold on thar cowboys! Our pollin' numbers are might start to recover! We better start whinin' and cryin' again. Woo-Hoo!

    December 19, 2013 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  16. Lynda/Minnesota

    "It doesn't take much to disclaim all gop talking points, a quick Google or fact check is all it takes."

    LOL. Google is not a friend of the GOP. When they speak in a public forum, GOPers tend to believe only those they are speaking TO (i.e. their base) are listening to their mantra. It's quite fascinating, actually.

    December 19, 2013 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  17. Winning

    @Kieth

    You should ask for your money back because you clearly lack any grasp of logic with that silly analysis.

    EVERYONE needs the debt limit raised or else EVERYONE in the country suffers for a variety of reasons (google is your friend, I will not list them).

    What that being the case, what does the president get from this supposed compromise? He gives something, and the COUNTRY gets to avoid financial disaster. That isn't a compromise.

    The REPUBLICANS are just as culpable for the exceeding the debt limit at this point because they authorized the very budget that will take us over it.

    December 19, 2013 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  18. current state of the union

    You know what I meant, the gop knows they took a beating on the shutdown, but they think they have found a way yo make people think they want compromise, as in, we just compromised on the budget, you mean the one they refuse to pay for. You ordered a steak, pay for the steak, if you only wanted to spend a certain amount: oreder the hamburger

    December 19, 2013 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  19. Malory Archer

    Keith ..... in Oregon

    I don't understand the comments blaming the Republicans for being hardline and uncompromising. Did people read the first two paragraphs? The GOP says "we want something in return this time." The White House said, "No".

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Perhaps that's because President Obama has spent the last 5 years bending over backwards to give the gop whatever they wanted while kicking his own supporters to the curb, and he's finally come to the realization that no matter how much he GIVES, it'll never be enough for them and they'll keep DEMANING more. They're like spoiled, petulent children DEMANDING an endless supply of cookies from a babysitter who only wants to make them happy, but eventually comes to the realizatoin that there's no pleasing them. When the babysitter finally puts their foot down the children pitch a fit and wail that the babysitter won't give them what they want. The best thing to do is put them down for a nap.

    December 19, 2013 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  20. The Real Tom Paine

    -smith

    @Tom P- I would like to see Joe Lieberman run for potus, but it`s not gonna happend. So my choice is either Hil-dogg or Awesome fat man Christie.
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    If they square off against each other, which would you prefer? My wife is terrified she will be facing that possibility.

    December 19, 2013 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
  21. Malory Archer

    What the next debt ceiling fight will look like...

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    To borrow a quote from a Talking Heads song: Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

    December 19, 2013 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  22. Silence DoGood

    @Keith ..... in Oregon
    I don't understand the comments blaming the Republicans for being hardline and uncompromising. Did people read the first two paragraphs? The GOP says "we want something in return this time." The White House said, "No".
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    It is a set-up, a scam.... Wait – I've got some great swamp-land to sell you......

    December 19, 2013 11:43 am at 11:43 am |
  23. Hector Slagg

    Golly,
    Is there any question. It will look just like the Democrat Party. Morally and Fiscally Bankrupt. You know the Liberal Motto, straight out of Vaudville. WITH YOUR MONEY AND MY BRAINS, WE WILL GO PLACES !

    December 19, 2013 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  24. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Lynda Minnesota
    GOPers tend to believe only those they are speaking TO (i.e. their base) are listening to their mantra
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    Actually Lynda they would becorrect in that only their base LISTENS to them and runs with whatever they are selling.
    Everyone else HEARS them and runs for the hills either laughing or shaking their heads in disbelief at the stuff they're spewing.

    December 19, 2013 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  25. Tampa Tim

    By adding over $13 trillion to our debt with unpaid for wars, unpaid for drug programs, unpaid for TARP, unpaid for tax cuts, and a $24 billion shutdown of government, did anyone other than the brain dead think that republicans knew anything about fiscal sanity?

    December 19, 2013 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
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