January 3rd, 2014
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Supreme Court to rule on Obamacare, same-sex marriage injunctions

Washington (CNN) – The Supreme Court could act as early as Friday on pending requests for injunctions in two separate, high-profile cases– health care reform and same-sex marriage - that put Justice Sonia Sotomayor in an unusually pivotal role.

Religious-affiliated non-profits - including a Denver-based home for the elderly run by Catholic nuns - have asked the high court to block enforcement of the requirement in the Affordable Care Act to provide birth control and other reproductive health coverage to their workers.

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  1. Malory Archer

    According the THE VATICAN website, Exodus 20 2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and A Traditional Catechetical Formula ALL word the Fifth Commandment as "You shall not kill".

    January 3, 2014 11:04 am at 11:04 am |
  2. tom l

    @Mallory
    tom l

    @rs
    "The trick will be to see if SCOTUS allows corporations run by fanatics to deny their employees (who may or may not have the same religious "beliefs") birth control."

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    Or, maybe they believe what they believe and you should let them alone rather than eviscerate them for exercising their freedom of religioin? Why must you feel you and the govt have the right to impinge on their rights?

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    Do you agree that a Jehovah's Witness or Christian Scientist-owned business should be able to deny covering live-saving blood transfusions for their employees? Or that a Scientologist-owned business should be able to deny coverage for diabetes or mental health services?

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    I sure do. It's their right as a business owner and they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions. People can then decide based on those decisions whether they want to work there and consumers can decide based on those decisions whether they want to do business with that company.

    January 3, 2014 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  3. GOP = Greed Over People

    Also, just let me state that I do not believe the Bible is the "word of God" it is a series to retold stories filtered through the small mind of man completely incapable of knowing what "God meant".

    It teaches that Moses smashed the full set of Commandments because humankind. Old not comprehend, let alone follow the original. So, Moses hiked back up to the top of the Mount and said, "Ok, God, hit me with your top 10, they want a smaller list"!

    This is as close to "God's word" as I am willing to concede and it states "thou shalt not kill" the "murder" aspect was added in the Hebrew Bible so MAN could feel better about war and capital punishment.

    I like to adhere to God's Word as opposed to man's perception of God's Word.

    January 3, 2014 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
  4. California

    the Little Sisters of the Poor, and other Roman Catholic group is being forced to give contraception against the religious views. The government is in fact not only dictating to these people that they can't practice their religious beliefs but the federal government is DICTATING to these people how they should practice their religion.

    Separation between church and state goes both ways. STOP the government dictatorship NOW!!

    January 3, 2014 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  5. foxghostwriter

    Tom I, you got it all wrong. Businesses have to conform to the rules. They can then decide if they wish to remain in business or not. If they don't want to offer contraception, they don't have to. Just don't go into business.

    January 3, 2014 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  6. tom l

    @rs
    "tom l
    @rs
    You are so arrogant. Who are you to decide what is "out of step"? These are their religious beliefs. You tout the first amendment yet you have no desire to live by that because someone has different beliefs than you do and then you have the audacity to judge these people because they happen to have faith in something you don't.

    As far as your "worker's rights" line of thinking, again you are out of line. If you don't like the company, then don't work there. Nobody is forcing anyone to work anywhere. Their beliefs 100% trump your incorrect interpretation of "worker's rights".
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    Grow up, Tom. Using a corporate master's "religious" beliefs to deny workers the ability to get insurance provided birth control (that they pay for) is simply using the patina of religion to enforce someone else's religious beliefs on the rest of us- That is arrogance!
    Meanwhile- acknowledge that 98% of Catholic women use birth control at some point. That means my friend that even adherents to that religion ignore their church's teachings/beliefs.
    Don't want to use birth control- that's your right. You have no such right to prevent anyone else from doing so however."

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    Why is religious in quotation marks? I think I know what your problem is. I think that you believe that they don't really believe all of hocus pocus religious witchcraft and all they are trying to do is save money. I just don't agree with you on that. I believe they are genuine with their faith (Hobby Lobby has always been known as a Christian owned store similar to Chick Fil A) and they are just following their religious doctrine. Your 98% and corporate masters comment shows your true feelings. You abhor these people and find them to be ideologues simply due to the fact that they adhere to their religious beliefs. And they are not preventing anyone from obtaining birth control. They are simply not wanting to facilitate something they strongly believe in which is the right to life.

    January 3, 2014 11:21 am at 11:21 am |
  7. rs

    I sure do. It's their right as a business owner and they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions. People can then decide based on those decisions whether they want to work there and consumers can decide based on those decisions whether they want to do business with that company.
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    I find it so curious that you would grant greater or a higher order of "rights" to people simply based upon their wealth or corporate standings. It says much about your social orientation, I think.
    Let's play your world salad games a little further. What happens if the corporate owner has one set of religious beliefs (which you feel they are entitled to force on their workers), what happens if another highly placed executive or family members with to enforce a different set of religious beliefs on the same employees? To whom should their fealty then lie? What about a "Duck Dynasty" case? Should Phil Robertson be able to have his employees marry underage women- because that is his belief- should he have a say on who his employees marry? After all- he's the boss, and those are his beliefs.
    Like the anarchy?

    January 3, 2014 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  8. tom l

    @tom l

    Didn't know I HAD to specify which set of Commandments I believe in.

    Make that the King James Version, which always has and still does state "Thou shalt not KILL".

    Apparently only Fox Fables and the GOP "chri$tians" allow "exclusions" and "variations" of KILL.

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    Lol. I'm Jewish. Not sure what Fox has to do with it. It's thou shalt not murder. Are you telling me that G-d would strike you down because you killed someone who attacked you and you fought back? Nope. It's thou shalt not murder. Killing can be totally acceptable.

    On another note, I have seen you tout one of Obama's great accomplishments as killing Bin Laden. So does G-d now have a problem with Obama? Of course not.

    January 3, 2014 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  9. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    When it comes to contraception, look at it this way. You're making a preemptive strike against an unwanted fetus. If you're an American, preemptive strikes are part of your DNA. What's the big frickin deal? You stand against abortions, yet you don't want to prevent an unwanted pregnancy from happening. I know you guys are all about no premarital sex, but be for real.

    January 3, 2014 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  10. Silence DoGood

    @tom l
    @Mallory
    tom l

    @rs
    "The trick will be to see if SCOTUS allows corporations run by fanatics to deny their employees (who may or may not have the same religious "beliefs") birth control."

    ====

    Or, maybe they believe what they believe and you should let them alone rather than eviscerate them for exercising their freedom of religioin? Why must you feel you and the govt have the right to impinge on their rights?

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    Do you agree that a Jehovah's Witness or Christian Scientist-owned business should be able to deny covering live-saving blood transfusions for their employees? Or that a Scientologist-owned business should be able to deny coverage for diabetes or mental health services?

    =====

    I sure do. It's their right as a business owner and they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions. People can then decide based on those decisions whether they want to work there and consumers can decide based on those decisions whether they want to do business with that company.
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    " they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions" Nonsense! I give you the real world as an example. Walmart treats it's employees as serfs and is horrible to them. Yet the owners are "suffering" by getting rich. It would be great if it worked the way you say but it doesn't.

    January 3, 2014 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  11. Thomas

    More woman are leaving the church , they want the right to use birth control .

    January 3, 2014 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  12. rs

    I sure do. It's their right as a business owner and they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions. People can then decide based on those decisions whether they want to work there and consumers can decide based on those decisions whether they want to do business with that company.
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    And such action accomplished what exactly? Nice chaos in the workplace, and unworkable workplace rights and regulations. You wind up precisely at the point we are at today- before the SCOTUS with a case that deals with constitutional issues (in this case of the Right trying to place religion in the public square). It won't change the results, Tom. Rights cut both ways and are finite and limited.

    January 3, 2014 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
  13. Silence DoGood

    Allowing a religious sect to control and dictate what the government does is the start of a slide into Theocracy. The Religious Right does not want freedom – they have this already – there are more churches than McDonald's. They want control of the government.

    "History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose." - Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813

    January 3, 2014 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  14. jpmichigan

    It is in the constitution regarding religious rights of individuals. Sorry this administration (though taken the oath to up hold and protect the Constitutions) does not believe in an individual religious rights, also in the separation of Church and state. Those seeking FREE contraceptive devices can FREELY go to Plan Parenthood clinics, the American Taxpayer gives millions to this organization via the Federal government.

    January 3, 2014 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  15. jpmichigan

    If one choose, one can read the constitution on individual rights to religious freedom, even though this administration took an oath of office to up-hold and protect the Constitution. If one need contraceptives, one can visit a Plan Parenthood Clinic in their area, for the American Taxpayer via the federal government gives millions to that organization for that purpose.

    January 3, 2014 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  16. Malory Archer

    tom l

    @Mallory
    tom l

    @rs
    "The trick will be to see if SCOTUS allows corporations run by fanatics to deny their employees (who may or may not have the same religious "beliefs") birth control."

    ====

    Or, maybe they believe what they believe and you should let them alone rather than eviscerate them for exercising their freedom of religioin? Why must you feel you and the govt have the right to impinge on their rights?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do you agree that a Jehovah's Witness or Christian Scientist-owned business should be able to deny covering live-saving blood transfusions for their employees? Or that a Scientologist-owned business should be able to deny coverage for diabetes or mental health services?

    =====

    I sure do. It's their right as a business owner and they will suffer the ramifications for their decisions. People can then decide based on those decisions whether they want to work there and consumers can decide based on those decisions whether they want to do business with that company.

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    What if someone is unemployed but they don't want to take a job for someone who would let them die in the event of a medical emergency – should they lose their UE benefits for refusing to take said job, and on what grounds?

    January 3, 2014 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  17. Rudy NYC

    This exemption is the first step on slippery slope that can be all too easily abused. Today it's, birth control pills. What will it be tomorrow, or the day after? What if some business owner says, "I believe in faith healing. It's against my religion to provide professional medical care to people."

    January 3, 2014 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  18. Donna

    rs

    tom l
    @GOP
    "I believe in the 10 Commandments, specifically, the one that states "Thou shalt not kill"!"

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    It's "thou shalt not murder". Big difference.
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    What a hypocrite you are! So you would deny people birth control because that's what the corporate boss wants, but you reserve the ability to kill, and keep your precious religious exception.
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    But NOBODY is denying them birth control so please stop the lies. They can buy all of the birth control they want with their own money. People should NOT be able to demand their employers pay for ANYTHING. But now the federal government has taken over what the definition of healthcare is in this country and they have created this mess.

    January 3, 2014 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  19. GOP = Greed Over People

    @tom l

    Should I ever have to kill someone in what you define as "self defense" then yes, I would expect one day I will have to give my side of the story.

    But then, I see you do adhere to the Hebrew version and it's "exclusions".

    As to your natterings about OBL, MY God does not punish by "proxy" so President O is off the hook. The Navy Seal that did kill him, can offer up a good explanation as to why he did, as for you and me, it is "above our pay grade"!

    January 3, 2014 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  20. Donna

    foxghostwriter
    Tom I, you got it all wrong. Businesses have to conform to the rules. They can then decide if they wish to remain in business or not. If they don't want to offer contraception, they don't have to. Just don't go into business.
    -–

    Well there you have it... Obamacare the jobs killer. The government takes over what used to be an employee benefit between the employer and the employee and dictates what the benefit is now and controls the costs (because the plan contents is determined by government now). Who cares if the business can afford it right? Go out of business and throw all those people into the unemployment line because that will be so much better for them.

    This is the warped, insane thinking of the left that wishes to use the federal government to control every aspect of your life. Obamacare is just the first step in that direction. Leave the Democrats in power and see how many other nutty things they can try and jam down your throat,like their insane carbon tax insanity.

    January 3, 2014 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  21. Pam from Iowa

    allowing coverage for birth control DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO USE IT!
    duh!!!!!!
    They better not offer coverage for Viagra then!!!! If God wanted you to have an erection, you would....without needing a pill! Very hypocritical to offer one without the other!

    January 3, 2014 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  22. Tampa Tim

    Religious groups want to be exempt from the law of the land. It appears that they think their rights were guaranteed in the constitution at the expense of individual's rights.

    January 3, 2014 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  23. Silence DoGood

    @Thomas "More woman are leaving the church , they want the right to use birth control."
    This is the reality of shrinking church attendance in some faiths. There is no evil conspiracy or "War on Christianity". People are looking elsewhere because some churches are failing people's spiritual needs.

    January 3, 2014 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  24. GOP = Greed Over People

    P.S. Excellent point Mal about the UE bennies, I too await the answer!

    If you are a business in the business to serve the public, one must serve all the public and if your beliefs are in conflict then shut down the business. I seem to remember if one's hand offend thee cut it off.

    If the business offends thee, shut 'er down!

    January 3, 2014 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  25. rs

    Why is religious in quotation marks? I think I know what your problem is. I think that you believe that they don't really believe all of hocus pocus religious witchcraft and all they are trying to do is save money. I just don't agree with you on that. I believe they are genuine with their faith (Hobby Lobby has always been known as a Christian owned store similar to Chick Fil A) and they are just following their religious doctrine. Your 98% and corporate masters comment shows your true feelings. You abhor these people and find them to be ideologues simply due to the fact that they adhere to their religious beliefs. And they are not preventing anyone from obtaining birth control. They are simply not wanting to facilitate something they strongly believe in which is the right to life.
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    My major problems around the use of religious belief for special treatment cut two ways-
    First for real-live religious institutions- how do we sort that which agree and those that don't for some churches and groups birth control will be just fine. How does the court strike the balance? Whose religion trumps the others. Why go through this? The exemption exists- all the churches have to do is fill out the one-page form.
    For corporations- well corporations HAVE NO religious beliefs- their owners might. Certainly as you yourself point out there are possibilities for "religious beliefs" to be used to simply reduce costs and cut employee costs.
    Not that it is any of your business (or your feeble psychoanalytic attempts)- my religious beliefs are my own, not my employers' to dictate. I believe in religious freedom whereas you would push your beliefs on others -simply based upon thoughtless social standing.

    January 3, 2014 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
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