January 21st, 2014
08:00 AM ET
6 months ago

Hot piece of land in Hoboken at center of Christie-Zimmer dispute

(CNN) - Most issues in Hoboken, New Jersey, ultimately boil down to real estate.

So it's no surprise to the residents of the small city that the dustup between their mayor and Gov. Chris Christie's administration centers around three square blocks in the north end of Hoboken

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  1. D. Williams

    Shame in you CNN for trying to paste Mayor Zimmerman as a liar, hoax and fraudulent. Your news host asked the question, "well she could write in her diary anytime, right?"

    The mayor deserves an apology for presuming her a hoax with your guest appearances

    January 21, 2014 09:08 am at 9:08 am |
  2. Dutch/Bad Newz, VA -aka- Take Back The House -aka- No Redemption Votes

    This scandal is even worst than BridgeGate. This Hoboken scandal is similar to the movie Broken City. I'm sure Mayor Zimmer isn't making this up. It sounds like she was offered a quid pro quo. Someone's in hot water now!

    January 21, 2014 09:11 am at 9:11 am |
  3. Gurgyl

    This big boy is a biggest bully of NJ, I don't know how he got elected with corrupt mind.

    January 21, 2014 09:14 am at 9:14 am |
  4. Lynda/Minnesota

    Interesting that CNN isn't mentioning the name of David Samson in their articles. He is also at the center of the Bridgegate controversy as well. And Chistie's lead council. As well as a partner in the firm that is advocating for the "parcel of Hoboken land" in dispute.

    January 21, 2014 09:20 am at 9:20 am |
  5. Rudy NYC

    Here's the simple version. Hoboken is a very densely populated city that is roughly one square mile in size. More than 80% of the city was underwater following Sandy. The mayor was seeking relief funds for uninsured homes and businesses, and more importantly, flood abatement to prevent future catastrophes. The allegation by Zimmer says that she was instructed to direct the funds toward a private developement, which has yet to be constructed, instead of what she had planned.

    I am not surprised to hear a tale about conservatives trying to use public dollars in order to fund private development. I find it much more plausible than the Lt. Governor's denials, most especially when the paper trail of money that has been distributed by the Governor so far can be easily examined.

    The Governor's office has released documents showing that the City of Hoboken has already received some $70 million in Sandy funds. What they are not saying is that those funds went directly to insured homeowners and businesses. In other words, those funds, FOR THE INSURED, are separate funds that did not go through the Governor's office. Funds going through the Governor's office are FOR THE UNINSURED and projects aimed towards future flood abatement.

    January 21, 2014 09:21 am at 9:21 am |
  6. Rudy NYC

    Lynda wrote:

    Interesting that CNN isn't mentioning the name of David Samson in their articles. He is also at the center of the Bridgegate controversy as well. And Chistie's lead council. As well as a partner in the firm that is advocating for the "parcel of Hoboken land" in dispute.
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    Yes, the law firm the represents the developers have curios connections, also. Key members of Christie's inner circle have bounced back and forth between that law firm and his staff.

    January 21, 2014 09:25 am at 9:25 am |
  7. enuff

    Why would anyone scribble about using a computer then journaling with one sentence taking up entire pages? Journaling is often used to get thoughts into a tangible form.
    I still think it's the Koch Brothers orchestrating this whole thing because Christie doesn't play ball with them.

    January 21, 2014 09:40 am at 9:40 am |
  8. Fair is Fair

    The Governor's office has released documents showing that the City of Hoboken has already received some $70 million in Sandy funds. What they are not saying is that those funds went directly to insured homeowners and businesses. In other words, those funds, FOR THE INSURED, are separate funds that did not go through the Governor's office. Funds going through the Governor's office are FOR THE UNINSURED and projects aimed towards future flood abatement.
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    Uninsured? Who in Hoboken doesn't have property insurance on their homes & businesses?

    January 21, 2014 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  9. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    "Uninsured? Who in Hoboken doesn't have property insurance on their homes & businesses?"
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    Come on, Fair. Can you say "flood insurance"?

    January 21, 2014 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  10. Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    "Uninsured? Who in Hoboken doesn't have property insurance on their homes & businesses?"
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    Come on, Fair. Can you say "flood insurance"?
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    Sure I can. So who in Hoboken doesn't have flood insurance for their homes & businesses? Isn't Hoboken in a FEMA flood zone?

    January 21, 2014 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  11. Ol' Yeller

    This really just got serious... what was a scandal which involved just a few low level aides that Christie didn't even know (yeah, right), has now got the LT. Governor issueing a blanket- 'She is lying' statement (I won't be answerting any questions. Just calling a press conference to call her a liar).
    Anybody care to take a little wager on how many times this Lt Gov. takes the fifth when she is questioned?
    We may have some high level people going to prison over this little deal.
    Christie will be lucky to keep office.
    His Presidential dreams are done.
    Better start working to make cruz or paul look sane for an entire election cycle... good luck with that.

    January 21, 2014 10:04 am at 10:04 am |
  12. Rudy NYC

    Sure I can. So who in Hoboken doesn't have flood insurance for their homes & businesses? Isn't Hoboken in a FEMA flood zone?
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    FEMA? Many insurers have been cutting checks that are much smaller than expected. But, all of that is irrelevant to my original point. You're supporting my argument. FEMA funds are beyond Christie's direct control.

    The Christie administratioon is conflating funds being distributed through the National Flood Insurance and other programs directly to homeowners and businesses, which do not go through the Governor's office, with supplementary federal funds to help uninsured, underinsured, and projects aimed at future flood abatement.

    January 21, 2014 10:06 am at 10:06 am |
  13. Rudy NYC

    Ol' Yeller

    This really just got serious... what was a scandal which involved just a few low level aides that Christie didn't even know (yeah, right), has now got the LT. Governor issueing a blanket- 'She is lying' statement (I won't be answerting any questions. Just calling a press conference to call her a liar).
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    I forgot to point out that the law firm that I mentioned above in response to Lynda's comment has Sampson's name on it. Sampson being Christie's topmost pick at the Port Authority. While it is a myriad of tangled webs of intrigue, it is still a closed circle of people who are seemingly involved in all of it.

    January 21, 2014 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  14. Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    Sure I can. So who in Hoboken doesn't have flood insurance for their homes & businesses? Isn't Hoboken in a FEMA flood zone?
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    FEMA? Many insurers have been cutting checks that are much smaller than expected. But, all of that is irrelevant to my original point. You're supporting my argument. FEMA funds are beyond Christie's direct control.
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    All I'm saying is Hoboken is in a flood zone (defined by FEMA). As such, they are required to carry flood insurance. My question is in reply to your statement about UNINSURED homes and businesses. Why would they not have flood insurance?

    January 21, 2014 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  15. Lynda/Minnesota

    "I forgot to point out that the law firm that I mentioned above in response to Lynda's comment has Sampson's name on it. Sampson being Christie's topmost pick at the Port Authority. While it is a myriad of tangled webs of intrigue, it is still a closed circle of people who are seemingly involved in all of it."

    Hey, Rudy. Thanks. I have been having difficulty getting my posts accepted. My above comment was my "condensed" version.

    January 21, 2014 10:19 am at 10:19 am |
  16. rs

    Hmmmm. Remember New Orleans and a certain tropical storm- yeah, the one GOPpers keep using with the President ("the ACA is Obama's Katrina..."). They may start to have to use "this is Christie's Sandy"...

    January 21, 2014 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  17. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    I'm sure Mayor Zimmer isn't making this up. It sounds like she was offered a quid pro quo. Someone's in hot water now!
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    I'd go as far as to say that someone's goose is being cooked!
    The good Governor's house of cards is jsut starting to topple.
    This man, by so many accounts, has been pulling a Soprano on the good citizens of New Jersey for years.
    It is uncanny, incomprehensible and the height of desperation for ANY Republican to have thought that a man who could not get past vetting for the v.p. slot actually had a chance at the brass ring in 2016.
    Next!

    January 21, 2014 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  18. Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    All I'm saying is Hoboken is in a flood zone (defined by FEMA). As such, they are required to carry flood insurance. My question is in reply to your statement about UNINSURED homes and businesses. Why would they not have flood insurance?
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    What does any of that have to do with the my point about Christie administration conflating funds that they don't control with funds that they do control? Not a thing. Nothing. Nada.

    January 21, 2014 10:28 am at 10:28 am |
  19. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Democrats who've had Christie's foot on their necks all these many years are coming out of the woodwork...but not to sing the good Governor's praises.

    January 21, 2014 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
  20. wendel

    fair is fair is so one sided it is not fair. Get real The lady said she would take a polygraph. Repos when confronted just denie and lie and keep on lying. That is their political style. Confrontational is what they do best. Of course it comes down to real estate and money.

    January 21, 2014 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
  21. Dean

    In this case, I think the Governor is telling the truth...and not the Mayor.

    January 21, 2014 10:35 am at 10:35 am |
  22. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    What does any of that have to do with the my point about Christie administration conflating funds that they don't control with funds that they do control? Not a thing. Nothing. Nada
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    Correct Rudy.
    But you know the only time the usual suspects can stay on topic is when they are slamming/hating on the President.

    January 21, 2014 10:36 am at 10:36 am |
  23. Fair is Fair

    Rudy NYC

    Fair is Fair wrote:

    All I'm saying is Hoboken is in a flood zone (defined by FEMA). As such, they are required to carry flood insurance. My question is in reply to your statement about UNINSURED homes and businesses. Why would they not have flood insurance?
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    What does any of that have to do with the my point about Christie administration conflating funds that they don't control with funds that they do control? Not a thing. Nothing. Nada.
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    You said, quote, "The mayor was seeking relief funds for uninsured homes and businesses". All I asked was who doesn't have insurance for their homes and businesses in a FEMA-defined flood zone? Why so defensive?

    January 21, 2014 10:39 am at 10:39 am |