March 12th, 2014
07:33 PM ET
5 months ago

What we learned from Florida-13

(CNN) - Here's something shocking.

Democrats and Republicans totally disagree about the significance of the GOP's victory in the first major competitive congressional ballot box test of 2014.

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  1. Gunderson

    What we learn? Probably the same thing we learned in 2010 congressional elections. The Liberal Mantra is dead.

    March 12, 2014 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  2. Stuffitu

    One of the big things we learned is the liberally biased media does not make Wasserman-Schultz, Jackson-Lee and Pelosi look like idiots when thy say something stupid. Contrast that to their treatment of Sarah Palin.

    March 12, 2014 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  3. The Republican Party Is Dead To Me

    Proves one thing. The people in this nation are completely nuts. It takes a dim witted individual to vote against their own best interest. The fact still remains that it's happened and the idiots are proud of it.

    March 12, 2014 08:35 pm at 8:35 pm |
  4. jinx9to88

    We learned that a Republican won by 2% in a district that was previous held by another Republican for the past 23 years in which was normally was not the close. I think I read that the Republican usually beats the Democrat by on average 12% in the election. I am not sure how the Republican people can take anymore out of it than what I just said. They bigger story would have been if a Democrat would have won.

    March 12, 2014 09:05 pm at 9:05 pm |
  5. Tampa Tim

    A wingnut said that ACA would cost $2 trillion. I thought they could read the following:
    What is the cost of ObamaCare? ObamaCare, Obama's new health care law, has a massive impact on health care costs. ObamaCare's cost is estimated at up to net cost of $1.36 trillion dollars by 2023. Although Obamacare's net costs are in the trillions, the law actually reduces the growth in health care spending by tens of billions each year, reduces health care costs for many Americans, helps to insure tens of millions and is estimated to result in an overall net decrease of the deficit.

    Obamacare is projected to cut the national deficit by over $200 billion during its first 10 years and over $1 trillion over the next two decades. This helps offset the up-front cost of ObamaCare. Please be aware the cost estimates are changed on a regular basis and are often quoted as being between $1 and $2.6 trillion. Our cost estimate is taken directly from the front page of the official CBO report on ObamaCare's costs. ObamaCare is paid for through collected taxes, penalties, spending cuts and reformations to the health care industry.

    March 12, 2014 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm |
  6. Name jk. Sfl. GOP CRUZ lee&rubio 24billion dallar LOSS of your tax money conservatives,the garbage of America.

    Don't worry dems , the dems will come out in DROVES in November when the election COUNTS. This GOP CROOKED LOBBYEST is only in office for a few months till November , why bother to vote twice for the same office and make two seperate trips. Don't bother to unpack jolly!!!!!!

    March 13, 2014 06:37 am at 6:37 am |
  7. Marie MD

    That the koch brothers and their money can't buy a general election but can buy, with those idiot seniors in Florida, a local election which is far more dangerous because states pass a lot of laws that can affect the population even more.
    They are worse than the backwoods folks in most southern states who take most of the fed money and still vote for teaklans.

    March 13, 2014 07:00 am at 7:00 am |
  8. salty dog

    Look at the win %, going down drastically every election, guess what the logical conclusion is for the next election?

    March 13, 2014 07:03 am at 7:03 am |
  9. salty dog

    Republicans are in their last days, that's what it says, seat held forty years, once won by thirty percentage points, won by two, in an off election, that clearly favors them, enjoy your last win.

    March 13, 2014 07:37 am at 7:37 am |
  10. smith

    Big surprise..lol. Dems are mad because they lost and are in a state of denial. Repubs are blowing the win way out of context and are in a state of smut. 2014 midterms, GOP keeps the house and gains little in the senate. The gridlock will continue.

    March 13, 2014 08:08 am at 8:08 am |
  11. Dean

    Of course the Democrat losers are going to downplay this defeat. But that's alright. It's good practice for them, considering what's coming in November.

    March 13, 2014 08:22 am at 8:22 am |
  12. Tommy G

    "It means we have to redouble our efforts to register and turn out the Rising American Electorate: people of color, unmarried women, young people. We will never be able to match the right wing dollar-for-dollar, so we have to beat them voter-to-voter," he said.
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    Sink, meanwhile, greatly out-raised, and outspent Jolly.
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    The two statements above from this article illustrate perfectly the lies that the leftist Democrats spew repeatedly. Democrats spent FAR MORE than Republicans and had their head handed to them. It is because people have now become aware of all their lies thanks to the Liar in Chief. Even spending vastly more than the Republicans cannot change the fact that these Democrats are liars out to deceive the America people.

    March 13, 2014 08:29 am at 8:29 am |
  13. just saying

    Jolly said he was committed to getting rid of Obamacare entirely. Sink recognized that Obamacare was a major issue. While she highlighted how the Affordable Care Act has helped people, she also noted that the law has flaws and said she was open to GOP proposals to amend some of the measure's requirements.
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    what kind of scam was this by sink? fixed? she knows obama has refused to fix anything by cooperating or negotiating with congress. he has unilaterally changed the law for purely political reasons. and now the american people are seeing how their healthcare, something that their life may depend on, has become a political football, an election tool, to deceive and manipulate them. this is another very big and real reason we need to get rid of obamacare. the american people cannot let themselves be held hostage to the whims of politicians or one liar in the whitehouse that uses it for political gains for his party.

    March 13, 2014 08:33 am at 8:33 am |
  14. Name jk. Sfl. GOP CRUZ lee&rubio 24billion dallar LOSS of your tax money conservatives,the garbage of America.

    What we learned was the GOP voters in Florida are DUMB enough to elect a CONVICTED FELON govenor, Rick Scott and also DUMB enough to elect a CROOKED LOBBYEST to congress. I guess they ARE SENILE down there???????? Jolly will only be in office until November anyway when all the dems come out in DROVES to kick out the INCOMPETENT GOP OUT for good!!!!!!!!

    March 13, 2014 08:34 am at 8:34 am |
  15. king

    Obama needs to get rid of obamacare, these ungrateful people doesn't want it. the repubs 5 years of relentless opposition has won. now lets go back to the good old days of bankruptcy and death. there will never again be a dem president that will tackle universal healthcare for all. the repubs who shout about drowning government in the bath tubs certainly wont go their either. universal healthcare will be dead for the next hundred years effectively. obama tried it but the repubs refused to work with him to help the american people, all they did was put every ounce of energy they had in their system to appease their rabid right wingers and kill universal healthcare. Obama you will lose the house and almost certain to lose the senate because of this law. you might lose more than you did in the 2010. Americans doesn't like changes although they always shout they do, the older folks here only looks out for themselves and their luxurious medicare advantage, and hell with the rest of the american people who spend most of their times in other stuff in their lives. for a hundred years this country had tried to get universal healthcare, but you was the president that brought it into existence. the people rejected because the billions the repubs have spent, and the over 50 votes they took to kill it in congress. go ahead allow the repubs to kill it and focus on something else.

    March 13, 2014 08:47 am at 8:47 am |
  16. Rudy NYC

    I learned that conservatives are very good at making mountains out of mole hills. The district has voted for Republican representative in the House for decades. Some ponit to Pres. Obama carrying the district, and call it a swing district. Some point to Repubilcans they elect for representation and call it a red district. I think there are two sets of voters. Those that come out during general elections, and those that come out during mid-terms. Is that the definition of a swing district?

    March 13, 2014 08:59 am at 8:59 am |
  17. smith

    The dems are mad and making excuses, the repubs are taking a small win and overplaying it. Nothing will change come the mid terms. Dems will have the senate and the GOP will keep the house.

    March 13, 2014 09:00 am at 9:00 am |
  18. kurt

    This is a district that has been red for over 40 years in congressional elections. In the last 3 congressional elections, the GOP won by 20%, 30% and 15%.

    They won by 2%, with over 100,000 people less voting then the last midterm election. And most would agree that the GOP turnout was much better then even regular midterms. As the article stated, Obamacare motivates those who oppose it to come out and vote. But supporters don't get motivated to vote because of Obamacare. Anger is a much better motivator then "Meh, it's better then what we had before."

    I'd argue that it's just a matter of time for this seat to go blue. Perhaps not this November (when the seat will be up again), but by 2016 with a full presidential election turnout... I think it's gone at that point.

    March 13, 2014 09:02 am at 9:02 am |
  19. Ron L

    What we LEARNED more than anything else. Democratic AMERICANS love to whine and complain about all the things WRONG with our politics and the grid lock. BUT they won't take the TIME (about 2-4 hours) to go VOTE and change it!!
    APATHY by the MAJORITY is the greatest threat to the success of America. The ONLY reason America is as great as it WAS (that is no typo) is about 30% of both parties were moderates, willing to negotiate and EVERYONE benefited. That percentage is now down to about 10% on the Republican side and still about 30% on the Democrats. UNTIL we get more moderates on the Republican side or more Democrats elected the country is going to stay stagnant because the only people that will prosper are those that are currently comfortable. Without an increase in the minimum wage allowing the poor and lower middle class some money to buy necessities and a "little extra" the economy can not grow. And lets not forget it will save about $200 billion dollars a year for the government because those low wage workers will no longer need SNAP and some of the other government assistance programs. It is a win – win.

    March 13, 2014 09:03 am at 9:03 am |
  20. The Real Tom Paine

    -Tommy G

    "It means we have to redouble our efforts to register and turn out the Rising American Electorate: people of color, unmarried women, young people. We will never be able to match the right wing dollar-for-dollar, so we have to beat them voter-to-voter," he said.

    Sink, meanwhile, greatly out-raised, and outspent Jolly.

    The two statements above from this article illustrate perfectly the lies that the leftist Democrats spew repeatedly. Democrats spent FAR MORE than Republicans and had their head handed to them. It is because people have now become aware of all their lies thanks to the Liar in Chief. Even spending vastly more than the Republicans cannot change the fact that these Democrats are liars out to deceive the America people.
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    You conveniently forgot to mention the flood of outside money that came into the race on behalf of Jolly, which more than made up for that. What astonishes me is the consistent lack of honesty and selective reading comprehension demonstrated by the GOP partisans here in their ongoing attempts to invent some sort of DNA linkage between Democrats and lying. Plucking 2 quotes out of context in an attempt to tar a significant number of people in this country with achildish label is nothing more than shoddy reasoning by a lazy mind.

    March 13, 2014 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  21. The Real Tom Paine

    -Gunderson

    What we learn? Probably the same thing we learned in 2010 congressional elections. The Liberal Mantra is dead.
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    If that were the case, you would not be hearing the " Liberal Mantra". So much for 100 years of Liberal rule you keep on prattling about, but we know Gunderson only pawn in game of life.

    March 13, 2014 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  22. salty dog

    Tommy, the Republicans usually win this district with big margins, this is a special election, which greatly favors Republicans, think what you will, the chart showing win percentages, has you losing next election,, enjoy your last days

    March 13, 2014 09:51 am at 9:51 am |