Updated 9:29 p.m. ET 4/24/2014
(CNN) - What started out as a standoff over land rights may be turning into a controversy over race.
Racist comments from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy - who earlier this month appeared to win a highly publicized standoff against federal authorities over his two-decade long illegal grazing of cattle on public land - are giving Democrats a new weapon to attack some top Republicans who earlier came to Bundy's defense.
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And the controversial comments also call into question moves by Fox News and some other conservative media that highlighted the story and painted Bundy as a hero in his battle against federal authorities.
Bundy, 67, won his standoff against federal rangers after armed militiamen came to his side. Even with the incident over, Bundy continued to talk to a dwindling crowd of media from his ranch, about 100 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
The comments that sparked the latest controversy came this weekend when Bundy recalled to supporters about a time he drove by a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, according to a report from The New York Times.
"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," Bundy said, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids - and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch - they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.
"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" Bundy continued. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."
What Cliven Bundy's comments on race reveal
In a press conference Thursday, Bundy defended and repeated his comments but emphasized he was merely "wondering" whether African-Americans were better off as slaves.
"And that's a question I put before the world: Are they better, or were they better then? I'm not saying I thought they should be slaves, or I wasn't even saying they was (sic) better off; I'm wondering if they're better off," he said.
Bundy said he questions whether those living under government subsidies are living as slaves to the state, but denied he held racist views.
"I might not have a very big word base or vocabulary, I guess, but let me tell you something: When I say slavery, I mean slavery...Slavery is about when you take away choices from people, and where you have forced labor," he said. "You think that's what I'm about, America? If it is, you're sure wrong, because I don't believe in any type of that stuff."
And Bundy didn't back down in an interview Thursday night with CNN's Bill Weir. He questioned whether blacks are better off now when "they don't have nothing to do with their children, their family unit is ruined (and) I don't think they have the life that they should have."
"I don't think I'm wrong," he told CNN, insisting that he'd spoken "from my heart." "I think I'm right."
Asked whether he was any more or less a "welfare queen" as those who get entitlement checks - since his cattle have been feeding off the government, literally, by eating grass on public land - Bundy said, "I might be a welfare queen, but I'll tell you I'm producing something for America and using a resource that nobody else would use or could use."
He said, "I'm putting red meat on your table. Maybe I'm not doing enough, but I'm trying."
'Comments are completely beyond the pale'
Thursday morning, hours after The New York Times story went viral, the Nevada Democratic Party put out a statement saying "These comments are reprehensible, and every Republican politician in the state of Nevada who tried to latch on to Cliven Bundy's newfound celebrity with TEA Partiers and the militia movement should be ashamed of their actions."
"Every Republican elected official who risked inciting violence to gain political capital out of Cliven Bundy now owes the people of Nevada an apology for their irresponsible behavior of putting their own political future ahead of the safety of Nevadans," added the Nevada Democrats.
Some top national Republicans quickly condemned the remarks.
Sen. Rand Paul, who originally supported Bundy's case, issued a statement Thursday morning decrying Bundy's racial comments.
"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," said the Kentucky Republican, who's seriously considering a 2016 presidential run.
GOP Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, who earlier called his supporters "patriots", also "completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy's appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way," according to his spokesperson, Chandler Smith.
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who had not previously weighed in on the land dispute, said in a statement that "Bundy's comments are completely beyond the pale. Both highly offensive and 100% wrong on race."
Democrats had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid – Nevada's senior senator - last week blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
One man, former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack told a reporter the militia were considering putting "all the women" on the front lines.
"If they're going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers," he said.
Questions about media coverage
Some conservative-leaning pundits painted Bundy as an anti-goverment hero. Fox News' Sean Hannity was criticized by liberal media outlets for frequently hosting Bundy on his television program and appearing to defend the rancher.
Hannity said Thursday on his radio show that Bundy's "comments are beyond repugnant to me."
"They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me," he said, adding that his interest in Bundy's case was entirely about government overreach.
He also chided what he called the liberal media, arguing that they ignore racist comments by Democrats and only focus on Republicans.
"Every conservative I know does not support racism, period," he said.
Another Fox News host, Greta Van Susteren, wrote on her blog Thursday morning that she condemns Bundy's comments.
Others had previously warned fellow conservatives not to get too fired up about the Nevada dispute. Conservative host Glenn Beck said on his show that "10 or 15 percent" of the people who were defending Bundy online were saying things "that are truly frightening."
"They don't care what the facts are," he said. "They just want a fight."
Tucker Carlson, founder of the conservative news outlet the Daily Caller, said on Fox that he sympathizes with the Bundys, but "it's important to point out that this land does not belong to them and that's not a minor distinction, it's the essence of private property."
For his part, Sen. Paul had also cautioned both sides, including Reid, to calm their rhetoric.
"Let's try to have a peaceful resolution to this," he said last week on Fox News.
While Republicans are now trying to distance themselves from Bundy, that's not stopping Democrats from going after them for supporting Bundy in the first place. And the Democratic National Committee says the incident is "more evidence of the shallowness of the GOP's outreach efforts."
"Remember Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson? His racist comments last December were in the same vein as Bundy's. Yet GOP leaders from Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Lindsey Graham, and others rushed to defend (Robertson's) comments against a liberal assault. Republicans even invited the Duck Dynasty stars as their guests to the State of the Union!," wrote DNC Communications Director Mo Elleithee.
"And therein lies the GOP's problem. If you ever want to be taken seriously for your outreach efforts, you might want to start by not defending racists," Elleithee added.
Battle over land rights
The Bundy standoff is emblematic of the larger anti-government sentiment around the country that has been amplified with the creation of the tea party movement in 2009. But the latest move in a two-decade-long tug of war between Bundy and the federal government is bringing to light the delicate balance that has lasted between citizens in the West and the federal government over the use of federally owned land for generations.
What made Nevada rancher fight the feds?
One protester from neighboring Utah, Stephen L. Dean, 45, called the Bureau of Land Management's actions "tyranny in government." And a banner at the protest site blared: "Has the West been won? Or has the fight just begun!"
In the western states, public lands are a big deal. Almost everyone uses them or depends on them. They are key to people's recreational hiking, fishing, hunting and skiing. And they are critical to people's livelihood, as they are used to cut timber, drill oil, mine coal and ranch cattle.
Vast swaths of the land in the West are predominately public. In Nevada, for example, 87% of the state is owned by the federal government, and the Bureau of Land Management oversees 245 million acres of public lands mostly west of the Mississippi River, not including the lands overseen by the National Forest Service and half a dozen other federal agencies.
In Nevada, ranchers depend on the federal lands for their livelihood. The government began allowing the use of the land in 1877 to promote the economic development of dry, difficult-to-cultivate desert areas. So it offered land for dirt cheap. Bundy says his family has owned the ranch since about the time the Desert Land Act passed.
A version of the law still exists today, allowing ranchers to graze their cattle on public lands for a nominal rate. The fee is cheaper than what the rancher would pay the state or a private land owner, but the tradeoff is that the rancher has to share the land with the public.
After the desert tortoise became a protected species in 1993, the Bureau of Land Management rebuked or phased out the permits of ranchers in the designated area in southern Nevada.
Bundy is the last remaining rancher, refusing to leave and refusing to pay more than $1 million worth of fines. Bundy lost all efforts at appeal and litigation. In an effort to enforce the law, the BLM attempted to round up Bundy's cattle and was met with a clan of armed defenders, leading to the current stalemate between the government and Bundy.
The Nevada Democrat had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Last week the state's senior senator blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
There are racist all over the world. Republicans, Democrats, Christians, Atheist, Muslims and the list goes on and on. Yes it is childish and stupid views to uphold to yourself but people still do it. All the hate mongering and name calling between political parties is no better than anyone who spews the racist garbage from their mouth. Wake up people. If you hate one group based on their ideals or just because they think differently than you, than you are just as bad as this Bundy guy.
Fox/Tea Pary Poster Child.
I agree with him. Black People have been conditioned not to work. the ghetto's and slums are horrible with what we have done to them. its not racist, its called GREED on the part of the Business People not the Government who are the business people.
usually I'm offended by such but I can see little untruth to what cliven is saying but if he came to Florida and Georgia he'd see the same thing with a goodly portion of white people on stoops not working because Cliven the RICH man has killed the working class now we are truly the working poor.
The Republicans deserve this notoriety for their knee-jerk defense of a welfare, racist rancher. I know honorable ranchers who won't defend him. Too bad the Republican Party didn't listen to them. You and I and the rest of the taxpayers subsidize this guy. Republicans also protect Walmart and other big corporations–many of them being subsidized by you and me. These are the real "welfare queens."
Rick perry denounced it but wasnt he the one who had a racist sign by his hunting camp?
An idiot is an idiot. A fool is a fool. This is someone who thinks he's right and the rest of the world is wrong.
I love it when the right wing nut talking heads hook themselves to a wagon whose wheel has fallen off.
Now all the republicans that jumped on the Bundy bandwagon will see the political ads with their supportive statement of Bundy followed by the racist comments from Bundy. Thats what happens repubs when you follow fox fake news lead.
So CNN has opted for the ultra left PC bias approach, pre-determining for the public what is or isn't racist, instead of simply writing "Comments from Nevada rancher …" or even "Controversial comments from Nevada rancher …"
I am a very Liberal and Democratic person and even I can understand what this man is trying to express. He's not suggesting that black people SHOULD be slaves, he's saying that he wonders if they're still NOT slaves. That being said, that they are dependant of the government for their livelyhood. Black americans are still, on a whole, not very productive members of society. They are uneducated (because they don't value school), they don't work (because a lot's easier to do nothing and sell drugs for profit) and they have too many mouths to feed, which falls on the government to support. Is he wrong? He's not. It has nothing to do with being racist. You can point out generalizations about a certain culture or group without it being racist. Being a racist means that you HATE a particular ethnicity. You could not-like certain traits but that doesn's mean you wish them harm.
There is nothing that this man said that is concidered offensive, IMO. Media and Politicians are just using this to twist it for their own agenda.
Who did not see this coming. Couple of days ago I said myself this will come blaming black people.
All you to do is give a conservative a little rope, and then let him hang himself. It happens so much it's not even funny.
There were some aspects of black society that did erode after slavery, but slavery is not an appropriate condition for any living soul.
If his cows are grazing on government land and he is not paying...isn't he the one getting the .Government Subsidy?
He is not a good enough rancher to be able to fend for himself and afford his own grazing land so he got the government to pick up the bill. He wants the government to pick up the tab for the grazing. He is leaching off the backs of the hard working American Public who depend on government lands for recreational activities.
His comments on race are absurd and his own actions show he is a cowardly traitor as he brings out his militia that supports the armed overthrow of our Union. He is the textbook definition of a terrorist and a traitor. He could have killed those innocent government agents who never took up arms against him and were only enforcing an order.
Hey CNN! Why don't you show all his remarks from start to finish? Why did you hack them up into convenient little soundbites instead of including the pieces where he talks about how the government is responsible for it and how much he respects Mexicans?
this entire situation sounds like a typical GOP/Tea Party fundraiser to me. Kind of tricky for the GOP to pander to their base while trying to distance themselves from their ideals and values.
Vee, you can make all the excuses you want for Bundy but Everyone knows Bundy is racist
So Bundy attacks people he sees as freeloaders. Just what do you call someone who grazes his cattle on public land, without paying for it?
Mr. Bundy: Please check your facts. There are more Causcasians on government subsidy than you will ever know. Actually he's not worth even the comment I'm making regarding this issue because he is pathetic.
It is amazing how CNN has all the sudden got this guy on front page. They did not want anything to do with this dude until now. Why? Ohh that's right cause now they can link people who supported this man to be racist. I know all the other news outlets are bias, but come on. No politician in their right mind would have supported this guy if they knew his real true chelaracter. But now his view on African Americans is out CNN can't help themselves. Everyone of you "news" agencies need to be shut down. Fox cnn all the other crap. I want real news back in America actual journalism. No more of this dividing. This is crap. Hey CNN congrats on further fueling the war. You should be so proud.
"When a man uses the descriptive term "colored" in referring to another human being, his mental stability and intelligence must be severely questioned. Intent aside, it was idiotic to say the least."
Yes, I agree completely. I have been saying that for years about those people at National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People (NAACP).
Quit focusing on this guy and focus on the real problem, free grazing rights. Just give it to the ranchers already.
Sounds like he's been taking lessons from the Vice President Biden...let's just say he's not a good role model for public speaking engagements...and probably not the best person to choose analogies to make a comparative argument.
The fact that this cranky old law defying white guy would make racially disparaging remarks came as a complete surprise, said no sane person ever.