Updated 9:29 p.m. ET 4/24/2014
(CNN) - What started out as a standoff over land rights may be turning into a controversy over race.
Racist comments from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy - who earlier this month appeared to win a highly publicized standoff against federal authorities over his two-decade long illegal grazing of cattle on public land - are giving Democrats a new weapon to attack some top Republicans who earlier came to Bundy's defense.
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And the controversial comments also call into question moves by Fox News and some other conservative media that highlighted the story and painted Bundy as a hero in his battle against federal authorities.
Bundy, 67, won his standoff against federal rangers after armed militiamen came to his side. Even with the incident over, Bundy continued to talk to a dwindling crowd of media from his ranch, about 100 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
The comments that sparked the latest controversy came this weekend when Bundy recalled to supporters about a time he drove by a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, according to a report from The New York Times.
"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," Bundy said, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids - and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch - they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.
"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" Bundy continued. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."
What Cliven Bundy's comments on race reveal
In a press conference Thursday, Bundy defended and repeated his comments but emphasized he was merely "wondering" whether African-Americans were better off as slaves.
"And that's a question I put before the world: Are they better, or were they better then? I'm not saying I thought they should be slaves, or I wasn't even saying they was (sic) better off; I'm wondering if they're better off," he said.
Bundy said he questions whether those living under government subsidies are living as slaves to the state, but denied he held racist views.
"I might not have a very big word base or vocabulary, I guess, but let me tell you something: When I say slavery, I mean slavery...Slavery is about when you take away choices from people, and where you have forced labor," he said. "You think that's what I'm about, America? If it is, you're sure wrong, because I don't believe in any type of that stuff."
And Bundy didn't back down in an interview Thursday night with CNN's Bill Weir. He questioned whether blacks are better off now when "they don't have nothing to do with their children, their family unit is ruined (and) I don't think they have the life that they should have."
"I don't think I'm wrong," he told CNN, insisting that he'd spoken "from my heart." "I think I'm right."
Asked whether he was any more or less a "welfare queen" as those who get entitlement checks - since his cattle have been feeding off the government, literally, by eating grass on public land - Bundy said, "I might be a welfare queen, but I'll tell you I'm producing something for America and using a resource that nobody else would use or could use."
He said, "I'm putting red meat on your table. Maybe I'm not doing enough, but I'm trying."
'Comments are completely beyond the pale'
Thursday morning, hours after The New York Times story went viral, the Nevada Democratic Party put out a statement saying "These comments are reprehensible, and every Republican politician in the state of Nevada who tried to latch on to Cliven Bundy's newfound celebrity with TEA Partiers and the militia movement should be ashamed of their actions."
"Every Republican elected official who risked inciting violence to gain political capital out of Cliven Bundy now owes the people of Nevada an apology for their irresponsible behavior of putting their own political future ahead of the safety of Nevadans," added the Nevada Democrats.
Some top national Republicans quickly condemned the remarks.
Sen. Rand Paul, who originally supported Bundy's case, issued a statement Thursday morning decrying Bundy's racial comments.
"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," said the Kentucky Republican, who's seriously considering a 2016 presidential run.
GOP Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, who earlier called his supporters "patriots", also "completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy's appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way," according to his spokesperson, Chandler Smith.
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who had not previously weighed in on the land dispute, said in a statement that "Bundy's comments are completely beyond the pale. Both highly offensive and 100% wrong on race."
Democrats had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid – Nevada's senior senator - last week blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
One man, former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack told a reporter the militia were considering putting "all the women" on the front lines.
"If they're going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers," he said.
Questions about media coverage
Some conservative-leaning pundits painted Bundy as an anti-goverment hero. Fox News' Sean Hannity was criticized by liberal media outlets for frequently hosting Bundy on his television program and appearing to defend the rancher.
Hannity said Thursday on his radio show that Bundy's "comments are beyond repugnant to me."
"They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me," he said, adding that his interest in Bundy's case was entirely about government overreach.
He also chided what he called the liberal media, arguing that they ignore racist comments by Democrats and only focus on Republicans.
"Every conservative I know does not support racism, period," he said.
Another Fox News host, Greta Van Susteren, wrote on her blog Thursday morning that she condemns Bundy's comments.
Others had previously warned fellow conservatives not to get too fired up about the Nevada dispute. Conservative host Glenn Beck said on his show that "10 or 15 percent" of the people who were defending Bundy online were saying things "that are truly frightening."
"They don't care what the facts are," he said. "They just want a fight."
Tucker Carlson, founder of the conservative news outlet the Daily Caller, said on Fox that he sympathizes with the Bundys, but "it's important to point out that this land does not belong to them and that's not a minor distinction, it's the essence of private property."
For his part, Sen. Paul had also cautioned both sides, including Reid, to calm their rhetoric.
"Let's try to have a peaceful resolution to this," he said last week on Fox News.
While Republicans are now trying to distance themselves from Bundy, that's not stopping Democrats from going after them for supporting Bundy in the first place. And the Democratic National Committee says the incident is "more evidence of the shallowness of the GOP's outreach efforts."
"Remember Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson? His racist comments last December were in the same vein as Bundy's. Yet GOP leaders from Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Lindsey Graham, and others rushed to defend (Robertson's) comments against a liberal assault. Republicans even invited the Duck Dynasty stars as their guests to the State of the Union!," wrote DNC Communications Director Mo Elleithee.
"And therein lies the GOP's problem. If you ever want to be taken seriously for your outreach efforts, you might want to start by not defending racists," Elleithee added.
Battle over land rights
The Bundy standoff is emblematic of the larger anti-government sentiment around the country that has been amplified with the creation of the tea party movement in 2009. But the latest move in a two-decade-long tug of war between Bundy and the federal government is bringing to light the delicate balance that has lasted between citizens in the West and the federal government over the use of federally owned land for generations.
What made Nevada rancher fight the feds?
One protester from neighboring Utah, Stephen L. Dean, 45, called the Bureau of Land Management's actions "tyranny in government." And a banner at the protest site blared: "Has the West been won? Or has the fight just begun!"
In the western states, public lands are a big deal. Almost everyone uses them or depends on them. They are key to people's recreational hiking, fishing, hunting and skiing. And they are critical to people's livelihood, as they are used to cut timber, drill oil, mine coal and ranch cattle.
Vast swaths of the land in the West are predominately public. In Nevada, for example, 87% of the state is owned by the federal government, and the Bureau of Land Management oversees 245 million acres of public lands mostly west of the Mississippi River, not including the lands overseen by the National Forest Service and half a dozen other federal agencies.
In Nevada, ranchers depend on the federal lands for their livelihood. The government began allowing the use of the land in 1877 to promote the economic development of dry, difficult-to-cultivate desert areas. So it offered land for dirt cheap. Bundy says his family has owned the ranch since about the time the Desert Land Act passed.
A version of the law still exists today, allowing ranchers to graze their cattle on public lands for a nominal rate. The fee is cheaper than what the rancher would pay the state or a private land owner, but the tradeoff is that the rancher has to share the land with the public.
After the desert tortoise became a protected species in 1993, the Bureau of Land Management rebuked or phased out the permits of ranchers in the designated area in southern Nevada.
Bundy is the last remaining rancher, refusing to leave and refusing to pay more than $1 million worth of fines. Bundy lost all efforts at appeal and litigation. In an effort to enforce the law, the BLM attempted to round up Bundy's cattle and was met with a clan of armed defenders, leading to the current stalemate between the government and Bundy.
The Nevada Democrat had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Last week the state's senior senator blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
Two separate issues: 1st – the rancher and his grazing rights 2nd – his remarks which many see as racist . This guy, just like every other person on this planet is neither always right nor always wrong.
Waaaaaaa!!!!!! Waaaaaaa!!! Cry me a river.. Political correctness is out of control in this country.. Grow up!.. If words offend you, stop listening.. If actions offend you, turn away... This offends... That offends... Get a grip! Stop acting like little babies...
Okay, Clive. I suppose it;s okay if your boss could have his way with your wife at any time when you were a young man,
that it beats sitting on a porch.
Given the number of prominent Republicans hankerin' to do away with the minimum wage, I'd say Cliven's only mistake was to talk about the end result of such a misguided policy openly.
I like him. That's the truth. It hurts.
Oh the Republicans always jumping on the bandwagon of idiots. Sean Hannity crowned this guy a hero. FoxNews "not racist, but supports racist"
this guy is as big a free loader as he claims those poor people are.
Stop it, Blacks are shown through the media that way. The majorty of us work, why didnt he talk about other races on government assistance. Its not understood what he said, someone explain it to me please because I see alot of people saying I understand what he's saying when it makes no sense.
The rancher was right about black people. many have been living off the government even when they're working thanks to the earned income tax credit. That being said, slavery wasn't good either.
chalk him up as another poster child for hypocrisy. when did the the public lands become his property? "freedom" because he says so? worse than a child.
Clive Bundy just spoke the truth.
The truth is that Republicans are still angry, and anger that is still destroying them and burning their hearts. They still can understand how Obama got chosen by Americans and that burns their hearts, as loser's mindset. Let just understand them.
Stupid is as stupid does. Sp the man could have said it a better way, oh wait no he could not have because there is no better way to discuss the elephant in the room. How in everyone's zeal to vilify this man, at least answer the question. You can not because the truth is under this government we are all probably better off as slaves. We are worth more to them so they would treat us better. Reality folks, you pay almost 50% of your earnings to the government straight out and probably another 10 percent, but at least 10% in hidden fees and tax. His pondering will not worded the best still is valid. Answer the f ing question with out making it a party line. I hate all you politicians and all you lackey's of politicians. You know media was suppose to keep the politicians in line? What the hell happened to you all?
Bundy is an extremely ignorant man. However so is the liberal elite. Bundy is not racist he is extremely simple minded trying to grasp big concepts. He is also a thief, the BLM may be conducting highway robbery and Reid may be crooked but Bundy is in the wrong.
Hmmm. Free use of government land. If it looks like a subsidy, and walks like a subsidy. Mr. Bundy you are such a hypocrite!
The race card... Hallmark of the politically defeated.
The man spoke the truth and people can't run away from him fast enough. Shame on all of you. The question is valid. We're all slaves...except for those that live on the dole. THEY have nothing required of them because no one expects anything from them.
Stupid stuff to say, but how does that change the cattle debate? Why can't all citizens rally against the increasing government power without concentrating on a individual person?
I don't care about cows or Bundy, I care about the BLM, Army Corp, EPA, etc, etc.
I truly believe that the Republicans who are running away from this guy probably would agree with him, they just say it publically.
America has enough problems without the NEWS creating controversy.
These clowns would have no voice if you just ignored them in the first place !.
cnn and fox is killing the morality of America
The guy is 70 years old, and grew up in the South...is anyone surprised that he would make remarks like these? I don't really even see his remarks as being racist, more than ignorant. While his comments are without a doubt uninformed, it's far more infuriating to see politicians using one man's remarks against those who supported the man for an entirely separate issue. In fact, I find this tactic far more offensive than the man's remark's; we're too stupid to see beyond a smear campaign? I don't think so.
That's actually entertaining. The guy has been using subsidized federal land at rates below both state or private owned grazing lands for multiple generations, and he argues that federal government subsidies are the worst thing for anyone. He should be wondering if he and his family for over a hundred years would be better off homeless? Learning the deeper truth about a situation is always enlightening.
Bundy and his supporters are selfish insurgents.
there's literally no response you can give that can cover exactly how many ways this guy is out of his mind. I started to type a couple of sarcastic remarks, and then I just said, Nah. Doesn't even dignify a response.
The fact that there are at least a couple messed up individuals in as many weeks who are so unashamedly out in the open when it comes to their racist views (the other being the mayor of the town where that anti-semite shot up a Jewish Center, who basically said he agrees with the views of the killer if not the specific action) makes me feel like never before how many covert racists must still be out there, afraid to speak or without the opportunity. I hope and believe that with each generation we get a good bit better and a little bit closer to the noble ideas upon which this country was founded.