Updated 9:29 p.m. ET 4/24/2014
(CNN) - What started out as a standoff over land rights may be turning into a controversy over race.
Racist comments from Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy - who earlier this month appeared to win a highly publicized standoff against federal authorities over his two-decade long illegal grazing of cattle on public land - are giving Democrats a new weapon to attack some top Republicans who earlier came to Bundy's defense.
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And the controversial comments also call into question moves by Fox News and some other conservative media that highlighted the story and painted Bundy as a hero in his battle against federal authorities.
Bundy, 67, won his standoff against federal rangers after armed militiamen came to his side. Even with the incident over, Bundy continued to talk to a dwindling crowd of media from his ranch, about 100 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
The comments that sparked the latest controversy came this weekend when Bundy recalled to supporters about a time he drove by a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, according to a report from The New York Times.
"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," Bundy said, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids - and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch - they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.
"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" Bundy continued. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."
What Cliven Bundy's comments on race reveal
In a press conference Thursday, Bundy defended and repeated his comments but emphasized he was merely "wondering" whether African-Americans were better off as slaves.
"And that's a question I put before the world: Are they better, or were they better then? I'm not saying I thought they should be slaves, or I wasn't even saying they was (sic) better off; I'm wondering if they're better off," he said.
Bundy said he questions whether those living under government subsidies are living as slaves to the state, but denied he held racist views.
"I might not have a very big word base or vocabulary, I guess, but let me tell you something: When I say slavery, I mean slavery...Slavery is about when you take away choices from people, and where you have forced labor," he said. "You think that's what I'm about, America? If it is, you're sure wrong, because I don't believe in any type of that stuff."
And Bundy didn't back down in an interview Thursday night with CNN's Bill Weir. He questioned whether blacks are better off now when "they don't have nothing to do with their children, their family unit is ruined (and) I don't think they have the life that they should have."
"I don't think I'm wrong," he told CNN, insisting that he'd spoken "from my heart." "I think I'm right."
Asked whether he was any more or less a "welfare queen" as those who get entitlement checks - since his cattle have been feeding off the government, literally, by eating grass on public land - Bundy said, "I might be a welfare queen, but I'll tell you I'm producing something for America and using a resource that nobody else would use or could use."
He said, "I'm putting red meat on your table. Maybe I'm not doing enough, but I'm trying."
'Comments are completely beyond the pale'
Thursday morning, hours after The New York Times story went viral, the Nevada Democratic Party put out a statement saying "These comments are reprehensible, and every Republican politician in the state of Nevada who tried to latch on to Cliven Bundy's newfound celebrity with TEA Partiers and the militia movement should be ashamed of their actions."
"Every Republican elected official who risked inciting violence to gain political capital out of Cliven Bundy now owes the people of Nevada an apology for their irresponsible behavior of putting their own political future ahead of the safety of Nevadans," added the Nevada Democrats.
Some top national Republicans quickly condemned the remarks.
Sen. Rand Paul, who originally supported Bundy's case, issued a statement Thursday morning decrying Bundy's racial comments.
"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," said the Kentucky Republican, who's seriously considering a 2016 presidential run.
GOP Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, who earlier called his supporters "patriots", also "completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy's appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way," according to his spokesperson, Chandler Smith.
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who had not previously weighed in on the land dispute, said in a statement that "Bundy's comments are completely beyond the pale. Both highly offensive and 100% wrong on race."
Democrats had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid – Nevada's senior senator - last week blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
One man, former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack told a reporter the militia were considering putting "all the women" on the front lines.
"If they're going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers," he said.
Questions about media coverage
Some conservative-leaning pundits painted Bundy as an anti-goverment hero. Fox News' Sean Hannity was criticized by liberal media outlets for frequently hosting Bundy on his television program and appearing to defend the rancher.
Hannity said Thursday on his radio show that Bundy's "comments are beyond repugnant to me."
"They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me," he said, adding that his interest in Bundy's case was entirely about government overreach.
He also chided what he called the liberal media, arguing that they ignore racist comments by Democrats and only focus on Republicans.
"Every conservative I know does not support racism, period," he said.
Another Fox News host, Greta Van Susteren, wrote on her blog Thursday morning that she condemns Bundy's comments.
Others had previously warned fellow conservatives not to get too fired up about the Nevada dispute. Conservative host Glenn Beck said on his show that "10 or 15 percent" of the people who were defending Bundy online were saying things "that are truly frightening."
"They don't care what the facts are," he said. "They just want a fight."
Tucker Carlson, founder of the conservative news outlet the Daily Caller, said on Fox that he sympathizes with the Bundys, but "it's important to point out that this land does not belong to them and that's not a minor distinction, it's the essence of private property."
For his part, Sen. Paul had also cautioned both sides, including Reid, to calm their rhetoric.
"Let's try to have a peaceful resolution to this," he said last week on Fox News.
While Republicans are now trying to distance themselves from Bundy, that's not stopping Democrats from going after them for supporting Bundy in the first place. And the Democratic National Committee says the incident is "more evidence of the shallowness of the GOP's outreach efforts."
"Remember Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson? His racist comments last December were in the same vein as Bundy's. Yet GOP leaders from Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Lindsey Graham, and others rushed to defend (Robertson's) comments against a liberal assault. Republicans even invited the Duck Dynasty stars as their guests to the State of the Union!," wrote DNC Communications Director Mo Elleithee.
"And therein lies the GOP's problem. If you ever want to be taken seriously for your outreach efforts, you might want to start by not defending racists," Elleithee added.
Battle over land rights
The Bundy standoff is emblematic of the larger anti-government sentiment around the country that has been amplified with the creation of the tea party movement in 2009. But the latest move in a two-decade-long tug of war between Bundy and the federal government is bringing to light the delicate balance that has lasted between citizens in the West and the federal government over the use of federally owned land for generations.
What made Nevada rancher fight the feds?
One protester from neighboring Utah, Stephen L. Dean, 45, called the Bureau of Land Management's actions "tyranny in government." And a banner at the protest site blared: "Has the West been won? Or has the fight just begun!"
In the western states, public lands are a big deal. Almost everyone uses them or depends on them. They are key to people's recreational hiking, fishing, hunting and skiing. And they are critical to people's livelihood, as they are used to cut timber, drill oil, mine coal and ranch cattle.
Vast swaths of the land in the West are predominately public. In Nevada, for example, 87% of the state is owned by the federal government, and the Bureau of Land Management oversees 245 million acres of public lands mostly west of the Mississippi River, not including the lands overseen by the National Forest Service and half a dozen other federal agencies.
In Nevada, ranchers depend on the federal lands for their livelihood. The government began allowing the use of the land in 1877 to promote the economic development of dry, difficult-to-cultivate desert areas. So it offered land for dirt cheap. Bundy says his family has owned the ranch since about the time the Desert Land Act passed.
A version of the law still exists today, allowing ranchers to graze their cattle on public lands for a nominal rate. The fee is cheaper than what the rancher would pay the state or a private land owner, but the tradeoff is that the rancher has to share the land with the public.
After the desert tortoise became a protected species in 1993, the Bureau of Land Management rebuked or phased out the permits of ranchers in the designated area in southern Nevada.
Bundy is the last remaining rancher, refusing to leave and refusing to pay more than $1 million worth of fines. Bundy lost all efforts at appeal and litigation. In an effort to enforce the law, the BLM attempted to round up Bundy's cattle and was met with a clan of armed defenders, leading to the current stalemate between the government and Bundy.
The Nevada Democrat had already been on the attack against Bundy before his racial comments. Last week the state's senior senator blasted Bundy's supporters as "domestic terrorists," saying they were arming themselves with automatic weapons and positioning "snipers in strategic locations."
I wish people would learn to think. Just because someone supports him on the land issue, it doesn't mean that he/she agrees with every idiotic thing that comes out of his mouth. I haven't followed the issue too much and couldn't fairly assess if he is in the wrong (on the land issue), but I do have an issue with the federal government owning 80+% of Nevada. And yes, this guy is clearly a racist.
"A weapon to attack Republicans." Hey, POTUS sez that sorta talk ain't allowed no more, FOLKS.
Is he a racist , sure, is he free to be a racist , sure, what's sad are all these republicans jumping on his bandwagon as if he is an all American General who they are so proud of am jus as fast as they jumped on they jumped off.. I only wonder why politicians can he so wrong and then issue a statement to cancel all that they are wrong Bout and think they start new again with their views ..
Wise decision by BLM to back off. Like they says in these parts, "Give 'em enough rope..."
Whats the big deal. He's just another conservative. They defend pedophiles like Strom Thurmond. Why should they desert him?
Black man here, I don't know if the guy is racist or not but he posed a question that my community needs to think about we have place our on people in slavery with immoral music tv shows and materialism, a great majority of my people are very ignorant to the point where its almost hopeless to try and educate us we as a community need a big wake up call
Isn't Mr. Bundy part of the WE that you refer to as the government? Anything owned by the government in this country is owned by the legal citizens and HE is a citizen.
As a black man, I do not believe these comments are racist. Mr. Bundy is a simple man trying to explain a very complex situation.I agree that a lot of people, black and white become slaves to the public assistance program when they aren't given access to educational and vocational programs. Some states provide such help, but the majority just get them in, but don't provide a way out of the system. Sound familiar??
Not sure why this is smart of liberals to attempt to turn this bone head's remarks on the Reps. It only gives some fringe nut job media coverage. Reps washed their hands of him as soon as he opened his mouth. Dems would be smart to ignore him as well. But to use it as a political lever, only creates more of his ugly talk. There are bigots and then there is the press that gives them a pulpit.
Definitely loving every minute of this... right wingers running with tail between legs....
As a black man I think he poses a question that we should ponder. We have for the most part squandered Martin Luthers dream
I am absolutely shocked that a anti-government right winger is a hypocrite and a racist bigot. So out of character.
Sean Hannity is making Glen Beck look like a genius.... These tea parties and their little militias are truly turning this country into an insane asylum.
I find it amusing that this story makes front and center on CNN, while the actual armed assault of Bundy's ranch by government agents was buried somewhere in the side stories when it was going on. This is a clear demonstration of political bias in the news media.
This guy is making his living grazing cattle on restricted federal land. Talk about government subsidized. He couldn't make a profit if he paid the government to let his cattle graze on it's land. Make this racist hypocrite pay to feed his animals. I shouldn't be subsidizing this character's lifestyle and tax breaks he enjoys as a farmer and rancher.
The son of a B is stealing the grass from the U S of A. My grass. He wants a free hand out for his freaking cows. Shoot the Bstrd and the fools that are supporting him. Take the cows, and let me eat them.
Shoot the damn cattle and put him in jail and throw away the key. As for the Idiot who said they would put women in front really sounds heroic. What a gutless wonder. It is typical that someone like Bundy would criticize others for being on the take while he steals grass on our land. He would make a good politician.
Im sure for every one black person in the hood that some of you call lazy and unproductive im sure withered 100 white folks in rural america doing meth and getting foodstamps so its not just a black thing. I see alot of whites using snap benifits at Wal-Mart's so wheres the talk about that? Food for thought; when they get through tearing down the economy its not going to matter if youre black, white or hispanic, were all going to be poor idiots.
It's the same old saw from old white Americans. The real Americans. The true flag waving patriots. If THEY get a handout from the government it's because they earned it and deserve it. If a BLACK PERSON gets a handout from the government then they just MUST be worthless freeloaders. No doubt about it. Right?
Ok, so he said something stupid. Does him saying something stupid, or something smart, have any bearing on whether his land situation was right or wrong under the law? He could be a racist, have verbal diarrhea, or think unicorns run around his ranch instead of cows, and still get screwed over by the government. Why are we conflating these two very separate Bundy stories? Oh, that's right – because our news media make their living off controversy, whether real or manufactured.
Cnn jumped right on this
Just seen this dude being interviewed live on CNN; 1) I am happy he is so far removed from civilization that he can do little harm. 2) He was doing his best to dig his hole deeper and deeper, as he couldn't help but try to weedle his pathetic way around the questions of the commentator.
here we go again, have we learned nothing.
He was front and center on fox for days....multiple stories.......now COMPLETELY GONE from their website.......it will be a matter of hours before fox has banner headlines on the IRS of the old chestnut....BENGHAZI,!!