Christie defends gun bill veto despite Newtown protesters
July 22nd, 2014
05:03 PM ET
3 months ago

Christie defends gun bill veto despite Newtown protesters

(CNN) – New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie stood by his decision not to meet with Newtown families before and following his veto of gun-control legislation.

Some of those same families and other gun-control advocates protested Monday outside an event in Connecticut where Christie campaigned for GOP gubernatorial hopeful Tom Foley.

"I met with Newtown families a year ago and talked about the full range of gun control issues they were concerned about," Christie told reporters. "I didn't feel it was necessary to meet with them again, especially after I had made the decision."

Christie vetoed a bill approved by the Democratic-controlled legislature that would have reduced magazine capacities from 15 rounds to 10 rounds.

He argued that it would not solve the problem of gun violence and mass shootings, labeling it a "trivial" and "simplistic" approach. He sent it back with suggestions on how to tighten gun laws and strengthen the state's mental health system.

Christie's language about the magazine limit approach, however, angered some advocates pushing for tougher limits on firearms, especially after the December 2012 mass shooting at Newtown’s Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Mark Barden, who lost his 7-year-old son Daniel in the shooting and who serves as the advocacy director for Sandy Hook Promise, said he repeatedly tried to meet with Christie this summer before the governor made a decision.

"No one told me he had no intention to meet with us," Barden told CNN. "I beg to wonder why he didn't just tell me that."

In his veto response, Christie said it was impossible for magazine limits to "eradicate, or even reduce" mass shootings. But Barden called the governor's response "an emotional tirade" and said no one suggested that it would be the sole solution.

Gun control advocates argue a 10-round limit could stall a shooter when trying to reload.

"What we do know from data and fact-based evidence is that small magazines do save lives," Barden said.

Christie, who's considering a run for president in 2016, said Monday he "made the decision that I thought was best."

"I have nothing but sympathy for those folks who went through what they went through in Sandy Hook," he added. "But I don't believe the bill that was passed in New Jersey is an effective way to deal with it, and so I vetoed it. That's a difference of opinion, but it's nothing personal."


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soundoff (32 Responses)
  1. Sniffit

    GOP/Teatroll gun policy: "It's not a problem as long as the right people are the ones getting shot."

    Right people: small children, "inner city" folks (especially those who left their proper neighborhoods), Cheney's hunting partners, minorities in hoodies, liberal arts college students etc.

    July 22, 2014 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  2. Gurgyl

    –16th century Gun Law needs to be revamped. Total gun-ban law is needed.

    July 22, 2014 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  3. it must be said

    15 shots to 10 shots now. 10 shots to 5 shots in a few years. 5 shots to 1 shot in 10 years. Soon we'll all be barney Fife only allowed by law to own and possess a single bullet.

    Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda. They think the problem is law abiding citizens and not all the crazy people we have walking around in this country.

    July 22, 2014 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  4. just asking

    Sniffit
    GOP/Teatroll gun policy: "It's not a problem as long as the right people are the ones getting shot."
    Right people: small children, "inner city" folks (especially those who left their proper neighborhoods), Cheney's hunting partners, minorities in hoodies, liberal arts college students etc.
    ---

    are you denying the vast majority of inner city gun violence is minority against minority? is the truth too much for you to handle? maybe we should deny guns to minorities?

    July 22, 2014 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  5. anthony78

    @it must be said
    Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda. They think the problem is law abiding citizens and not all the crazy people we have walking around in this country.

    Okay wise one.. whats your solution to "address the problem"?
    We'd al LOVE to hear it.
    We'll wait....

    July 22, 2014 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  6. Tony D

    Gurgyl
    –16th century Gun Law needs to be revamped. Total gun-ban law is needed.
    ---

    Better get to work and add that repeal of the Second Amendment to the Democrat platform and get to work on ratification. The process is well defined to accomplish this. What are you liberal Democrats waiting for? Go for it!

    July 22, 2014 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  7. Sniffit

    "Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda."

    GOPers/Teatrolls are just stock full of stupid slippery-slope argument that don't address what everyone else is actually saying and proposing.

    FIFY

    July 22, 2014 05:20 pm at 5:20 pm |
  8. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    anthony78

    @it must be said
    Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda. They think the problem is law abiding citizens and not all the crazy people we have walking around in this country.

    Okay wise one.. whats your solution to "address the problem"?
    We'd al LOVE to hear it.
    We'll wait....
    ----------------------------------------------------–
    Well everyone exceot for me.
    I don't have that kind of time!

    July 22, 2014 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  9. it must be said

    anthony78
    Okay wise one.. whats your solution to "address the problem"?
    We'd al LOVE to hear it.
    We'll wait....
    --–

    First define the problem you are trying to solve accurately. Let's hear it. I have an opinion on what the problem is but let's hear what YOU think the problem is. One thing is for sure, the problem is NOT the size of magazines in guns. That's just silly liberal stupidity.

    July 22, 2014 06:03 pm at 6:03 pm |
  10. Tony D

    So when are the Democrats going to come out for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment as Gurgyl would like? We know that is what you all really want. Why hide it anymore? Be honest with the American people.

    Maybe we can have a dual repeal effort, 2nd and 16th Amendments and see which one gets repealed!

    July 22, 2014 06:06 pm at 6:06 pm |
  11. Dead Bear

    It'll take one of their own getting shot before the GOP will ever do anything when it comes to common sense gun legislation. It seems to be that a Republican has to be affected personally before they can see the other side of a polarizing issue.

    July 22, 2014 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  12. Thesmarton

    At gurgyl

    Please tell that to the people of Ukraine, Russia, China, Egypt, Iran, and Thailand.

    July 22, 2014 06:10 pm at 6:10 pm |
  13. Silence DoGood

    @just asking
    Sniffit
    GOP/Teatroll gun policy: "It's not a problem as long as the right people are the ones getting shot."
    Right people: small children, "inner city" folks (especially those who left their proper neighborhoods), Cheney's hunting partners, minorities in hoodies, liberal arts college students etc.
    -

    are you denying the vast majority of inner city gun violence is minority against minority? is the truth too much for you to handle? maybe we should deny guns to minorities?
    -----------
    That also debunks the "more good guys with guns" myth. More good guys (white NRA gun owners) wouldn't help that either would it? So what do you suggest if not less guns or more white gun owners?

    July 22, 2014 06:13 pm at 6:13 pm |
  14. Silence DoGood

    @Sniffit
    "Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda."

    GOPers/Teatrolls are just stock full of stupid slippery-slope argument that don't address what everyone else is actually saying and proposing.

    FIFY
    -----------
    I guess liberals could take this slippery slope attitude too. There must be NO guns (which no liberal in reality is says) because if you allow one littel gun, then tehy will want 2 guns then 3, then 4.

    Or maybe could be adults and Compromise! But that is not in the purity test right wing anymore.

    July 22, 2014 06:15 pm at 6:15 pm |
  15. Sniffit

    "are you denying the vast majority of inner city gun violence is minority against minority?"

    Are you denying that's the way you like it?

    July 22, 2014 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  16. Ol' Yeller

    @it must be said
    "15 shots to 10 shots now. 10 shots to 5 shots in a few years. 5 shots to 1 shot in 10 years. Soon we'll all be barney Fife only allowed by law to own and possess a single bullet."

    I'm an avid hunter and gun owner... when I hunt ducks, I have to 'plug' my shotgun so it only holds 3 shells instead of the 5 it actually will hold. This has been in effect since I was a kid. It isn't that I just get 3 shots... I can re-load, but I can't just take a 30 round barrel clip and start wasting every duck in the flock! I don't see hunters crying and whining about their 2nd Amendment rights over this. That is because they are sane and responsible gun owners... not water carriers for the mass murderers. Nothing in the second Amendment says anything about round capacity (though it does clearly state 'well regulated', though the SCOTUS righties seem to skip over that)
    Where is the outrage about this? Do ducks deserve more of a chance than our children? It is called a 'sporting chance' and I do not see why we wouldn't give the same to our children as we do our waterfowl.

    I for one will not associate myself with these maniacal mass shooters to protect 'rahts' I actually don't have... I have a right to bear arms, I do not have the 'raht' to any weaponry on the planet with any round capacity or modification I please... that is how idiots end up shooting down innocent airline passengers from the sky.
    Well- regulated- NOT no regulations- read the Constitution, don't just scream about your 'rahts'.

    July 22, 2014 06:50 pm at 6:50 pm |
  17. Longtimer

    anthony78

    @it must be said
    Democrats and liberals are just stock full of stupid laws that don't address problems, but that push their anti-gun agenda. They think the problem is law abiding citizens and not all the crazy people we have walking around in this country.

    Okay wise one.. whats your solution to "address the problem"?
    We'd al LOVE to hear it.
    We'll wait....
    __________________________________
    4 people die doing their jobs in a veritable desert outpost city called Benghazi and the GOP freaks out. 26 school children get killed in their classroom in suburban Connecticut- but the GOP is fine with that. See the problem now?

    Background checks, licensing, limited carry, and above all insurance. Easy solution. We do that for automobiles and many other things- and you know what? When more people get killed by guns in the U.S.,one of the highest death rates in the world among the 1st tier nations by the way, than by automobiles- that tells you there is a big hairy problem- and more guns and less laws isn't the solution.

    July 22, 2014 06:55 pm at 6:55 pm |
  18. rs

    just asking

    Sniffit
    GOP/Teatroll gun policy: "It's not a problem as long as the right people are the ones getting shot."
    Right people: small children, "inner city" folks (especially those who left their proper neighborhoods), Cheney's hunting partners, minorities in hoodies, liberal arts college students etc.
    -

    are you denying the vast majority of inner city gun violence is minority against minority? is the truth too much for you to handle? maybe we should deny guns to minorities?
    _______________________
    What about those 20-some first graders in Connecticut- was that inner city, racial violence? I think not. Maybe we should be more careful who we sell tools of death to- because that's what guns do, and that is what they are for.

    July 22, 2014 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  19. Mohan

    Christie surely will not defend his veto if he or some one in his family or even any of his close friends are hit by guns n bullets

    July 22, 2014 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  20. wildwillywong2001

    Gun haters claim they have 90% support, then they whine and cry because when it comes to the ballot, less than 50% support them. That's what's called "a clue".

    In this instance, the gun controls issue and the dead victims are being used as a Democrat campaign tool. The idea here is to damage Chris Christie.

    Possibly saving just one life someday has nothing to do with this stunt. We know that's a goofy folly anyway, this bit about "We know our new law wouldn't have made any difference in any of the past criminal attacks, but we hope that they might just possibly save one life someday in the future.

    And that's the basis for passing a law? Hoping that it might possibly work someday while admitting it wouldn't have worked to address the problem in the past? That's pathethic.

    July 22, 2014 08:01 pm at 8:01 pm |
  21. santell

    It's so obvious, the Jersey guy is trying very hard to appeal the the "base" of the gop which he won't and he looses whatever independent followers he had. Remember Romney making a fool out of himself trying that....bunch of losers.

    July 22, 2014 08:36 pm at 8:36 pm |
  22. Thomas

    Remember this is the same yes man lobbyist who worked at one time for Bernie Madoff .

    Now he supports Hobby Lobby and the NRA . What's next ?

    A lawyer with the heart the size of a snake .

    July 22, 2014 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  23. Dead Center

    @Gurgyl
    –16th century Gun Law needs to be revamped. Total gun-ban law is needed.
    ---------
    You're sooooo eager to take away everyone else's rights. Are you willing to give up yours? Let's start with your First Amendment rights. You know, the one that allows you to spew your idiotic rants...

    Total Gurgyl-ban law is needed.

    July 22, 2014 09:43 pm at 9:43 pm |
  24. scdad

    The 2nd Amendment mentions arms in general not guns in particular. So ban guns and let morons run around smacking each other with sticks, swords, spears. A real man's weapons

    July 22, 2014 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  25. aaron

    The protester should have brought food from KFC. That would've got Christy's full attention.

    July 22, 2014 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm |
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