June 5th, 2007
10:24 PM ET
12 years ago

Paul: U.S. has rejected 'Just War' theory of Christianity

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Texas Rep. Ron Paul said at Tuesday's GOP presidential debate that America's most pressing moral issue is its adoption of a preemptive military policy, declaring it a rejection of the "Just War theory of Christianity."

"We in the past have always declared war in the defense of our liberties or go to aid of somebody," he said. "But now we have accepted the principle of preemptive war - we have rejected the Just War theory of Christianity.

"We have to come to our senses about this issue of war and preemption and go back to traditions and our constitution and defend our liberties and defend our rights," he added.

Paul is the only GOP member of Congress running for president who voted against authorizing the use of force in Iraq.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Ron Paul
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  1. brad, gold bar, washington

    All of my comments that I left in the other candidates blogs have been deleted. All I asked was where all their supporters were. 0 comments in some. I also said

    June 6, 2007 03:01 am at 3:01 am |
  2. L. Hughes New York

    America is at a fork in the road, either we continue up the path of economic,moral, and political serfdom; were we learn to love our servitude becuase we don't have the discipline to be anything but slaves. Or we choose the more difficult path, where we finally regain our courage and honor and rally around a good man. We need a man of courage and integrity like Ron Paul, but more importantly Ron Paul needs the men and women of this country to stand beside him and fight to regain our rapidly diminishing freedoms. Serfdom or freedom – it is very late in the day to regain our lost freedoms, but not so late that we have no chance at all, Stand up and fight!

    June 6, 2007 03:07 am at 3:07 am |
  3. Daniel Black, Chelan, Washington

    Ron Paul is educated, principled, and genuine! Real Americans are grateful for his outstanding service to our deteriorating nation. Ron Paul is an American statesman on a par with the Founding Fathers. He may be America's last hope for liberty and self-government.

    June 6, 2007 03:08 am at 3:08 am |
  4. Julie Borowski, Damascus, Maryland

    It's amazing how no matter what party you belong to, if you have a brain, you vote for Ron Paul. I had to sit through 2 hours of complete bs just to watch 5 minutes of Ron Paul... I AM SCARED IF ANYONE ELSE ON STAGE GETS ELECTED. A vote for Ron Paul, is a vote for America.

    June 6, 2007 03:20 am at 3:20 am |
  5. Justin

    The only one who stood out was Ron Paul, even though CNN tried to minimize him by putting him as far off center stage as possible and snubbing him on questions. SHAME ON CNN! SHAME!
    Will CNN now discredit their own polls like Fox did? Ron Paul dominated there yet again.


    June 6, 2007 03:26 am at 3:26 am |
  6. Jim Hix, Fort Worth, Texas

    CNN as all MSM is still in denial about their viewers preferences. I'm surprised they don't just make up the viewer polls to push their Masters Candidates (Rudy and John). All MSM are doing all they can to ignore the opinion of their Viewers. Ron Paul is clearly the winner in the first three polls. Come on CNN grow a spine. Rupert won't be here that much longer.

    June 6, 2007 03:29 am at 3:29 am |
  7. Erik in Holland, Mich

    I am totally inspired by Dr. Paul, I mean what a brilliant speaker he is and a true gifted Statesman. He won the online poll again by a light year and was dominating the post debate main message board here but for some reason both are now offline ... hmmm

    June 6, 2007 03:30 am at 3:30 am |
  8. Mike, San Antonio, TX

    Isn't it time to stand up to pseudo world of media, brag some signs that support Dr. Paul, or take a window marker as one poster noted and promote him ourselves?

    It's time we promote him and make him a household name. No one else will.

    June 6, 2007 03:59 am at 3:59 am |
  9. Michael Suda, Philadelphia,PA

    They didn't give this guy enough questions as they heavily favored McCain, Giuliani, and of course Romney. The debate wasn't balanced out with the other candidates.

    June 6, 2007 05:13 am at 5:13 am |
  10. Joe FitzPatrick, Hardin, MT

    Ron Paul = Constitutional Rule of law!

    1.Bring our troops home and station them on the southern border

    2. Bring our Navy to our coasts and Train Train Train to defeat the upcoming attack of the Globalist Bankers who want to enslave the whole earth.

    3. Replace illegal privately owned fiat money with constitutional money, rebuild our industrial base and our infrastructure

    4. Use our super well trained Military to repel and defeat any attack on the United States to the point where no greedy gloablist banker will ever try to establish a bank upon these shores to try to subvert and enslave us EVER AGAIN!

    June 6, 2007 05:57 am at 5:57 am |
  11. Chris, Seattle, WA

    I can't believe that some of you actually think that there is a media conspiracy. Rockefeller said it best himself when he said:

    "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.
    It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But now the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supra national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

    – David Rockefeller, 1991, Private Banker, Council of Foreign Affairs

    June 6, 2007 07:11 am at 7:11 am |
  12. Rocco, West Palm Beach, FL

    I find Ron Pauls' comment on preemptive war policy refreshing. I want to know what gives the USA the rights to attack another country for what they have or what they might do? And these war monger right wing bigets call themselves Christians!

    June 6, 2007 07:43 am at 7:43 am |
  13. Paul, Williamsburg, Iowa

    We've made Russia afraid of us with our pre-emption. Look where that's going. Where no one trusts anybody. We're back to the time before WWI. Will we ever learn?

    There was no poll on CNN, but who need's it? Look at who gets all the comments!

    June 6, 2007 08:35 am at 8:35 am |
  14. Lisa Wilson,

    I am a registered Democrat because the values that party embraces and espouses address my concerns and sensibilities. However, as a thinking and voting American, I know it is my responsibility to hear what Republican candidates for political office have to say. I have watched all of the debates broadcast thus far for the 2008 presidential election. Frankly, I was shocked at many of the comments and statements of proposed policy that the candidates have made, particularly last evening. I was especially alarmed by Tancredo's suggestion that the English language is what holds the United States together. He apparently does not place much value on the Constitution! I was disappointed in the pandering to the conservative and religious right base of the Republican Party by the candidates in their use of their religious beliefs to validate their candidacy – particularly Huckabee (I used to think he had some intellectual spark.)Some of the comments the candidates made I found to be just silly and simplistic – perhaps in an attempt to appeal to the viewers they thought would be watching on TV.
    However, the candidate that made the most sense, was the straightest talker, that appeared to be the most sincere (and not using some "sound bite/talking points")was Ron Paul. His honest, and in my opinion, correct appraisal of the neocons' use of pre-emptive war showed an understanding of the policies that the Bush administration has tortured the American people with and demonstrated that he is not willing to buy into the unabashed fear-mongering that many Republicans are so fond of. I got the impression that the current Republican candidates, save for Ron Paul, are desperately trying to hold onto the once-firm religious right voter base who might once again vote for a candidate who can reduce the issues as McCain did to "good and evil". Is this the best we can do?

    June 6, 2007 09:13 am at 9:13 am |
  15. R Shindler, Yoakum, TX

    Could it be the clap of thunder indicates He was listening as well? If He is about to send His Angels to Washington, like in Sodom they will only find one righteous man. I will cast my vote following the same guidelines.

    June 6, 2007 09:15 am at 9:15 am |
  16. Dave, Toronto Ontario

    Ron Paul is the only intelligent person in the republican debate. I love how CNN and other networks have to continually sensor Ron Paul because of his truthful message. I'm a Canadian , but if I were an American...I would vote for Ron Paul in a heart beat.

    June 6, 2007 10:56 am at 10:56 am |
  17. Kristi, Baytown, Texas

    Dr. Ron Paul voted against using force because it was the right thing to do. We need to concetrate on us and not placing our military in "places of interest", meaning oil laden countries. Leave the oil alone and bring back the electric car. By the way the electric car is dead thanks to the oil companies who "persuaded" the automakers to distroy them. Please research this issue along with Dr. Ron Paul and his issues!

    June 6, 2007 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
  18. abraham b. palmdale california

    " Ron Paul said that it is unthinkable to use preemptive nuclear force against an enemy that has done us no harm. He is gravely mistaken. The enemy referred to is Iran, a known supporter of terrorism. Iran has supplied the arms to insurgents in Iraq which have killed thousands of American soldiers, not to mention many more thousands of innocent Iraqis. Whether or not it is acceptable to entertain the idea of preemptive nuclear strikes against Iran, it is ignorance or denial to say that Iran has done us no harm."

    we shouldnt be in that country anyways policing the streets, our military is not designed nor trained to operate in that manner. you do know that the US supports resistance groups in iran right? not to mention all over the globe.. we have had our hands in almost every war in history yet you sit here and act like we are so innocent. we are 59 trillion dollars in the hole due to liabilites owed and our government is subsidized 3 billion a day just to function, at this rate we will have to extract all forces from all over the globe because we will be bankrupt.

    IRAN is not a threat top the US, russia was more of a threat than iran ever will be. war mongering neo conservatives who play on peoples fear and who play the patriot card are no good and will bring this country down.

    go ron paul.

    also how do you fight a ' war on terror ' with wide open borders? before and after 9/11 we have had wide open borders with an influx of millions of people undocumented.. does this make sense to you at all?

    June 6, 2007 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
  19. Ellen Bailey, Montrose, CO

    Dr. Paul is not one of the Neocons (the New Cons as in new con artists), he is a true conservative. The U.S. policy on pre-emptive nuclear attack on any country, (even against countries without nuclear weapons, even only on the allegation or suspicion with no evidence of a threat against the U.S.) is not based on the values of this country. This has opened the door that other countries (like Israel) can use a pre-emptive doctrine, against any country as well. This does not help the cause for peace, it only helps the war profiteers. Dr. Paul, you are a shining light in a very dark room of candidates who are controlled and obedient to their masters, TPTB, not U.S. citizens their constituents.

    It is a shame that CNN and other media outlets have become the propaganda mouthpieces for TPTB and the candidates TPTB have chosen to further their goals. So much for the "Free Press" in the U.S.A.

    If the U.S.A. is ever going to become a free nation again and recover from the damage that has been done over the past 30 years, a man of good moral standing and principles like Dr. Paul is the only way to go. God Bless you Dr. Paul for presenting a righteous viewpoint.

    June 6, 2007 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  20. Rick Theile, San Ramon, CA

    I think Ron Paul is the only one really being honest about the issues. He is the only one that believes the US Constitution is still the law of the land and not whatever our government thinks the law should be. If you want a positive change in government and a government that actually works and represents the people, then Ron Paul is the one.
    I didn't think I would be looking at a Republician for President, but Ron Paul is the only one I think will really do something about a democracy we have lost in this country.

    June 6, 2007 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  21. David D., Las Vegas NV

    Ron Paul is a freaking genius but in a good way and for a good cause. I believe in the separation of church and state but I also agree that our foreign policy should be more christian than demonic.

    June 6, 2007 01:45 pm at 1:45 pm |
  22. Scott Hutchison, Arlington Virginia

    Thank goodness for a candidate that believes in our constitution, free market, and individual liberty. He has my primary vote.

    June 6, 2007 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  23. Mark Niedzielski, Chicago, IL

    Very encouraging to see all the support for Dr. Paul. He is the one candidate in either party who really understands what America is all about and what Americans really want. He is the peoples choice and should be getting much more coverage. It is shameful he isn't.

    June 6, 2007 02:39 pm at 2:39 pm |
  24. Chris Dortignac, Los Angeles, California

    Unlike the losers of this debate, Dr. Paul distinguished himself as being the only candidate who clearly understands the constitution he swore to uphold, and the concept of jurisdictional authority.

    I hope you win Mr. Paul. If you do, it will be by some miracle because the media can't fathom the thought of someone with a lick of integrity.

    Media or no media, I'll give you my vote!

    June 6, 2007 02:42 pm at 2:42 pm |
  25. Karl, Cincinnati, Ohio

    Ron Paul is the only man last night who spoke with knowledge, integrity and character. I am a liberal democrat and I will be changing my voting status this year to Republican (GASP!) in order to vote for Dr. Ron Paul in our state primary.

    Ron Paul is truly a good man and an inspiration for all of us!!!

    June 6, 2007 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
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