September 11th, 2007
02:09 PM ET
16 years ago

Clinton fundraiser found in 'fetal position' on train

The Clinton campaign said Monday that it will return money solicited by Norman Hsu from more than 250 donors.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - A day after Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign announced it was returning $850,000 raised by fugitive fundraiser Norman Hsu, new details have emerged about his capture last week, according to reports from The Wall Street Journal.

The disgraced Democratic fundraiser, who is under investigation for investment fraud in the 1990's, failed to appear in court last Wednesday. He was later found on an Amtrak train headed for Chicago.

The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site Monday night and in the newspaper’s print edition Tuesday, that it was not a pleasant trip for Hsu.

Another passenger, Joanne Segale, tells the newspaper she noticed several items spill out of his sleeping cabin, and when she peeked through the window and "saw a man who appeared to be in fetal position, bare-chested."

"It appeared this person had fallen out of bed," she told Journal.

A crowbar was needed to open the Hsu’s cabin where he was found on the ground and unable to walk, the Journal reported.

Segale also told the newspaper she noticed "lots and lots of medication in that room. I could see pills on the floor and rolling around."

Hsu was taken to a Colorado hospital and then taken into custody by the FBI.

Hsu has also given to other Democratic candidates, including Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama.

UPDATE: Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney tells CNN's Shirley Zilberstein the DNC is now re-vetting those contributions that were raised for the committee by Hsu between 2004-2007 and verifying them with the donors directly. Hsu raised approximately $47,000 for the committee in that time.

Related: Dems rush to dump donations from fugitive fundraiser

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Norman Hsu
soundoff (82 Responses)
  1. TransparentTrollop

    A picture is worth a thousand words.
    Or 850,000 dollars in Hillary's case...

    September 11, 2007 11:44 am at 11:44 am |
  2. ZacaryQuack

    Doesn't Hsu look evil to you? And well, we already know Hillary's evil.

    Two evil peas in a dem pod. There must be a pun here somewhere..

    September 11, 2007 11:48 am at 11:48 am |
  3. Greg, Phoenix, AZ

    A perfect pair they are.

    September 11, 2007 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  4. Patrick, Tucson Arizona

    September 11, 2007 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  5. I Foreman

    Why was he identified as a "Hillary Clinton" supporter, when he in fact, raised money for many people?

    September 11, 2007 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  6. Cary - Lowell, IN

    Mr. Hsu is typical of the Democratic persona – weak, "feminized", "on meds", hysterical, insecure, impulsive, unethical and dramatic.

    September 11, 2007 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  7. Bill W, Coatesville, PA

    "Why was he identified as a "Hillary Clinton" supporter, when he in fact, raised money for many people?"

    If you read up on this guy and the Clintons, you will he has raised an enormous amount of money for the Clintons – recently and also while they were in office. Millions and millions – not just this mere $850,000 they got caught with this time.

    There have also been allegations that the Clintons leaked (gave) sensitive US missile technology to China through this guy, in exchange for the funds.

    September 11, 2007 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  8. Steve, Peoria, IL

    This is kind of depressing to me; that a perfectly "normal" looking person who is cavorting with no less than the top echelon of the American political scene has spiralled down so far in jso short a time. Makes you wonder what kind of people are in the orbit of Washington politics.

    September 11, 2007 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  9. Banko

    Familiar pattern. Wake up America.

    Go Obama

    September 11, 2007 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  10. Chris Haynes, Winston-Salem, NC

    This is just another case of the liberal media......oh, sorry Republicans, that one won't work here. I guess you all will have to come up with another catch phrase to attack the Democrats with. I don't suppose Republicans ever took money from lobbyists?

    September 11, 2007 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  11. James, Phoenix AZ

    Note to Karl Rove:

    Keep this picture of Hillary and Hsu and share it again after Hillary has won the Democratic nomination. Remind Americans of Clinton Campaigning: Hsu, Jinnah, Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, Buddhist Monks, James Riady, Lippo Group, Ted Sioeng, Maria Hsia. AND remind Americans that well into ALL of these fraudulent cases – Janet Reno (Clinton's Attorney Gen) repeatedly refused an independent investigation into campaign finance scandals!

    PLEASE remind us, Mr Rove.

    September 11, 2007 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  12. Michael, Atlanata GGA

    Well who is she returning the money to? And how do we know it gets returned and not donated again?

    September 11, 2007 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  13. Michael, Atlanta GA

    Well how do we know that the money got returned and who did the money get returned to?

    September 11, 2007 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  14. Chris Haynes, Winston-Salem, NC

    "on meds"? We should ask Mr. Limbaugh about that topic. Yet another intelligent post from our beloved Republicans.

    September 11, 2007 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  15. Pat, Huntington, NY

    Hsu donated to many other politicians, including Obama, yet, Clinton is the only one doing the right thing by returning ALL of Hsu's donations. And yet again, we hear the baseless virtrolic nonsensical Clinton bashing comments.

    September 11, 2007 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  16. Jon, Pittsburgh, PA

    Bingo Chris Haynes – you are correct!!!

    Republicans never took money from anyone questionable either. They are too honorable for that.

    And ZacaryQuack.... well your name says it all.

    September 11, 2007 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  17. Cary -Lowell, IN

    Dont you people get it ?? He couldn't give millions to campaign, because it's ILLEGAL, so he had lackeys put THEIR name on the donations. It was a network of regular everyday Americans who make like $40,000, but whose names were attached to hundreds of thousands in campgain donations. It's against the law and will put Hsu in jail for many years.

    September 11, 2007 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  18. Ron, TX

    This story broke more than two weeks ago. It was -KNOWN- then that Hsu was connected to strange donations of large amounts coming from middle and lower-middle class families! That was the story that uncovered Hsu's arrest warrant. Hillary should have immediately called the $850,000 into question THEN! More than two weeks ago they knew! Instead, she issues a press release NOW saying "out of an abundance of caution" they're gonna return the money?! Get. Real.

    How on earth can anyone not realize that something very dirty just happened? Pro-Hillary or not, this has dirty scandal written all over it. Where is the media?

    September 11, 2007 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  19. me

    This is such crap! Trying to tie Hillary Clinton or anyone into the issues of others. They have very little control over who gives them money for their campaigns, and I highly doubt that anyone has ever done a background check on any donor. They show this very old picture of Hillary Smiling next to this man who just gave a very nice contribution to her campaign, and try to make it look like she did something wrong.

    What about taking a look at all of those pictures of Bush with Bin Ladden smiling. or Cheney with Senator Craig and such, their are Tons and tons of those. Let's start printing those!

    September 11, 2007 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  20. Vic Wilson, Anchorage, Alaska

    Go Hillary Clinton! Just because she took money from this guy doesn't mean anything, he raised money for so many other people and she returned it. Barack Obama is inexperienced and people are just voting for him because he can speak the crowds. Yet he's shown time and time again he doesn't know what he's talking about through the debates and has only been in the national scene for a few years. Hillary's going to be the first woman president! But thats not why I'm voting for her. It's because she's trying to do good for this country and knows how to make change (we don't want on the job training for our president BARACK!), she has experience and the smarts to get us out of the energy/Iraq dilemnas facing our nation.

    September 11, 2007 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  21. Ray, Tavares FL

    Am I late for the partisan mudslinging?

    September 11, 2007 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  22. Lou, Wheeling IL

    Who cares. . .Mr. Hsu is not running for President.

    Folks, just remember, in the end, you rather have a good President who will put food on your table instead of you worrying about unemployment!

    September 11, 2007 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  23. Eric Heimann, Palm Springs, CA

    I object to the anti-Clinton caption on the ticker. Since the content is per se not newsworthy (what is newsworthy about a sick man being in the fetal position?) the only purpose is to show, somehow by implication, that the Senator is less of a viable candidate because a fundraiser (who raised money for other candidates) was in a "baby's" position. Even if there might some convoluted news value is his "position" why should her name be tied to it? So much for political impartiality.

    September 11, 2007 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  24. Nick Mann, Miami, FL

    No one should be surprised, the Clinton's have a long history of surrounding themselves with criminals.......Hillary's nomination will be automatic win for Republicans....

    September 11, 2007 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  25. Don Penniall, Coronado, California

    So the Clinton campaign is "returning" the donations. Isn't it important that we know to whom all that money is being returned , or do you just take their word for that. Where is the investigative reporting? Donors themselves under suspicion ( see related LA Times story).

    September 11, 2007 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
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