September 19th, 2007
04:07 PM ET
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Senate Democrats fail in push to limit Iraq troop deployments

Virginia Sen. Jim Webb holds a press conference Wednesday with Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, the co-sponsor of the Webb amendment.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - A measure that would have forced the Pentagon to give troops sent to Iraq stateside leave equal to their time in the battle zone was defeated in the Senate Wednesday evening after failing to draw enough Republican votes.

The amendment from Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., won the support of 56 senators, four short of the 60 votes needed under Senate rules to move it forward. A similar measure had failed to gain approval back in July.

Webb's amendment to a defense authorization bill was strongly opposed by the Bush administration, which argued that it would hamstring the Pentagon's ability to deploy troops as needed.

The measure's chances of passage took a blow earlier in the day, when influential GOP Sen. John Warner of Virginia, who had voted for it in July, announced he would no longer support it.

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soundoff (30 Responses)
  1. John, Ca.

    The Republicans are digging their own grave, and unfortunately hundreds of thousands of graves in Iraq!

    Edwards in 2008

    September 19, 2007 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  2. Ryan Smith, Billings, MT

    There was nothing controversial in this bill. This clearly shows that those opposed to this bill don't care for the troops. Why then attack to show their phony patriotism? True americans and patriots should pick up these senators who opposed this bill and throw them out in 2008 election.

    September 19, 2007 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  3. slimegreen

    Senate Democrats have failed America.

    Its time for real change, where is the green party?

    September 19, 2007 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  4. Jesse Pittsburgh, PA

    make em vote on it democrats.... make the voters keep see who is voting for the same failed bush policy. Make em vote with a timeline, and without a timeline. It's sad we choose this course over protecting the well-being of our troops.

    September 19, 2007 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  5. Jerry Taylor, Kansas City, KS

    Why CNN is giving such misleading heading? Why didn't it say that "Republicans Fail to pass this bill". Is CNN trying to cover these failed republicans?

    September 19, 2007 06:43 pm at 6:43 pm |
  6. Rich, LA, CA

    Our troops are never coming home.
    It's part of the New World Order and Satanism.

    Sweet dreams.

    September 19, 2007 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  7. Rose Hann New London, CT

    How sad for our troops. Jim Webb has a son on the ground and the Pentagon persuaded the GOP to vote with the President against Webb's amendment. This is a win for Bush, a great loss for our troops. Warner flip-flopped and the rest of the GOP senators whos seats are comming for re-election should ALL lose. If there is a God, they will. SHAME on Bush and the Pentagon!!

    September 19, 2007 07:07 pm at 7:07 pm |
  8. JWK, Jackson, Tn

    At least some people have the guts to stand up for our troops. We have a bunch of idiots who are marching to the tune of and taking away the decision for those who are doing the job.

    Give them what they need and they will succeed.

    I wonder if they will be willing to take the blame when if we pull out and the enemies of this country bring the war here?

    September 19, 2007 07:10 pm at 7:10 pm |
  9. Henry Tucker, Ga

    Hold your head up high, Democrats. If your candidate is elected President – you'll be able to demonstrate to the terrorists just how quickly Dems can cut-and-run.

    Al Qaeda, Ba'ath Party loyalists, Taliban, Iran, Syria – all will be dancing in the streets on this day.

    September 19, 2007 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
  10. C.LyOnS, New York, NY

    A total lack of compassion from the Republicans again...our armed forces are in deep trouble...THANKS GOP

    September 19, 2007 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  11. Christian, Tampa FL

    Why on earth can't we agree to give our troops more time in the homeland? This war is straining our military and reducing our level of preparedness for a domestic incident such as a natural disaster or, God forbid, some kind of terrorist attack or conventional invasion.

    We must end this war and recommit our military resources to the defense of our nation, not to the occupation of a country that doesn't want us there.

    September 19, 2007 07:56 pm at 7:56 pm |
  12. Bob, San Francisco, CA

    >At least some people have the guts to stand up for our troops. We have a bunch of idiots who are marching to the tune of and taking away the decision for those who are doing the job.
    >JWK, Jackson, TN

    Typical ignorance on behalf of a chickenhawk. The amendment is asking to give our troops some rest and sanity before sending them back to the hell of war. And what do you have to offer? comments? Or "at least some people have the guts to stand up for our troops"? Hey, do you even realize what you're saying? The Democrats are the ones standing up for the troops.
    You're exemplify the Rush Limbaugh "ditto head" mentality of repeating rhetoric that you do not fully comprehend. Please evaluate your comments, look into the issue again, and see exactly who cares more about the troops.
    PS. Why don't you join the army, chicken hawk?

    September 19, 2007 08:32 pm at 8:32 pm |
  13. Debbie, NY NY

    "Senate Democrats fail". That's no surprise at all, actually. It's one thing to have a incompetent ruling president. It's another to have an equally pathetic, spineless senate. Thanks for nothing, Senators. By the way: enjoy all the luxurious perks of your office too.

    September 19, 2007 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  14. Kathy, Detroit

    What if there is a really big war when all of the troups are needed for a really long time. This bill may work for now but will it work in the future?

    September 19, 2007 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  15. I thought we lived in a democracy

    I hope every republican who voted against this measure loses their seat in the next election. This is an outrage, motivated by politics, and will not be forgotten by the voters

    September 19, 2007 09:45 pm at 9:45 pm |
  16. Natalie, Virginia

    John Warner is an embarrassment to the state of Virginia. Thank God he is retiring. He always acts like he is
    "independent" and not afraid of bipartisanship and then he backs out and only supports the republicans time and time again. Had that scumbag not backed out perhaps the amendment would have had a chance.

    September 19, 2007 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  17. erika morgan black dimond wa

    The GOP has seriously trashed our brave men in uniform! They should instead have asked for a draft so there would be enough military to do their bidding. I know this would never pass cause then their children would become part of the "fools errand" that Iraq is. Our fathers, and sons, mothers and daughters lives are defiantly not a fair trade for one drop of oil. Every American would rather walk to work and wear a blanket in their home this winter rather then spill any more American blood! I think it is time to cut the money unless congress has the balls to send the white coats up to the White House to make room for a sane administration.

    September 19, 2007 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  18. David Schwalje - Alpharetta, GA

    I live in Georgia, a suburb north of Atlanta (Alpharetta) that votes historically Republican. Personally I had not yet taken much interest in the 2008 Senate election... but now I have... and so have many other neighbors who normally would vote Republican. Kick Sxby Chamblis out of office!

    September 19, 2007 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  19. my911call, Wilmington, NC

    Pick up these senators who opposed this bill and throw them out in the 2008 election. There is red meat present. Prepare the campain ads!

    September 20, 2007 12:27 am at 12:27 am |
  20. Patrick, Bartlesville Oklahoma

    Let's call this bill for what it is, this was part of the slow bleed aproach of ending the war, it would put our troops that have to stay there in more danger but not giving them reinforcments. Even if you don't support the war you should be strongly against this bill because it puts the troops that everyone says they care about in more danger. I think two approaches at this time are appropriate. Either continue the war put in all the troops the generals say they need to complete the mission or have a complete withdrawl. Anything in between puts our troops in more danger.

    September 20, 2007 12:52 am at 12:52 am |
  21. BYoung

    Thank You GOP,Because all the Demotax
    is trying to do is cut and run,You have to remember they're a bunch of loser
    quitter never win and winner never quit
    yes,I'm an American fighting member

    September 20, 2007 02:07 am at 2:07 am |
  22. Bill W, Coatesville, PA

    I'm ex-Navy, and to me, this is similar to the sea-shore rotations we used to do. We'd get 2 years shore duty for every 4 years sea duty. But I think these Army guys have it much tougher.

    There is NO reason why these troops should not be allowed to rest by getting at least the same amount of stateside duty as they spend in Iraq. The only reason I could see is th eone we already know – there are not enough troops on hand to do the job.

    Next, they'll be calling for a draft. I've been expecting it for the past 3 years.

    This is not the fault of the Democrats, by the way, that this bill did not pass. This is that stubborn president who wields the veto pen again, and the rest of his Republican pals who killed this. Yes, the Democrats have a majority, but it is a very slight majority and they don't have enough of a majority to force their bills or override a presidential veto.

    Once again, blame Bush and his failed administration.

    September 20, 2007 06:32 am at 6:32 am |
  23. RA,Cary,NC

    We just can't cut-and-run and hand over victory to the terrorists. That's exactly what OBL and his cohorts are wishing for!. There is but only one way to fight evil-fight it hard till we prevail!

    September 20, 2007 07:24 am at 7:24 am |
  24. Bill Charleston SC

    All of you who decry the Republicans who stood up to the ridiculous Democratic attempt to place limits on what the President and military leaders can do with our nations military should be ashamed. If you were so concerned about our troops, where were your voices back in the 90s when President Clinton gutted our military and shattered our nation's abilit to defend itself? That's where all of this started folks. When Ronald Reagan was president we wouldn't have had this problem because he fully funded the defense department. How do I know this? I was in the Army during the 80s and the 90s. The differences for our soldiers were striking.

    So don't sit here in your glass houses and pretend to support our troops just because they are in harms way. Supporting our military is necessary even when we're not fighting. Oh, that's right, none of you even think about our soldiers when they're not in combat. How silly of me.

    September 20, 2007 07:26 am at 7:26 am |
  25. Peter J. Scalco Florida

    The democrats must not let the republicans nor the one issue anti-war democrats frame the discussion.Cut funding for all but operations related to force security and those designed for transitioning to the Iraqi's.Please dom't allow for a new variation of "stay the course". The republicans are stalling and the Dem's are allowing themselves to be seen as the responsible party for this military and political fiasco created by the Bush Administration. If we don't have enough troops to avoid multiple deployments then call out the reserves,have a draft or get out. Don't let the republicans have it both ways, get smart.

    September 20, 2007 07:42 am at 7:42 am |
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