MoveOn.org says criticism brings out military supporters
Watch President Bush condemn the MoveOn.org ad Thursday.
WASHINGTON (CNN) - One day after the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution condemning MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” ad and President Bush offered his own harsh condemnation of the group, the liberal advocacy organization said it is being flooded with messages of support from members of the U.S. military and their families.
And as of midnight on Thursday, MoveOn also said it had raised $500,000 from 12,000 individuals to support a new ad its running criticizing Republicans who blocked an effort to give U.S. troops more time between deployments to the Middle East.
“These folks have made sacrifices many of can’t imagine,” the organization stated in a news release. “Their charge to us was clear: keep speaking the truth about how President Bush and the Republicans have betrayed our trust.”
MoveOn has been a hot topic of conversation ever since it published an ad in The New York Times questioning the credibility of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.
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Somewhere in Texas a town is missing their idiot.
We are in a covert Pre-Totalitarian state, most Americans have no idea what has happen. Our Media, congress, religious backers and even the president have been manipulated by powerful & wealthy covert groups. Some are closer to the source than others, but all are influenced.
I'm afraid by the time America wakes up we'll be a shattered nation....the cracks have already been started....they have us fighting each other while they go about their business.....we are being attacked from within......Wake up!!!
Better republican than gay loving baby abortion killers. Hate to think where we would be if that ass Gore had the presidency on Sept.11,2001. He was right though, He had a couple of chads missing!
>Better republican than gay loving baby abortion killers. Hate to think where we would be if that ass Gore had the presidency on Sept.11,2001. He was right though, He had a couple of chads missing!
>Posted By Daryl Hauser Sutherlin, Or
Another poster child for educational reform
"CNN deletes Comments from this forum"
should be the headline.
Obviously, if they say nothing about congress voting against our freedom of speech by voting to condemn those that speak out against this administration and congress and do not even report on the congress's vote to end habeas corpus this week, they are part of the problem not part of the solution!
Just check back in 5 minutes, CNN will have deleted this comment because it casts a negative image on them. Is CNN in favor of freedom of speech?
They have now deleted my last four comments to this article.
I guess I will have to start a blog on this.
A truly patriotic president would have said that the ad was an expression of the rights we hold dear. A president who was a true "uniter" would have said something like, "Our men are fighting for the rights of all of us to express our opinions. Read the information brought by the general and make your own conclusions." If he were a big man instead of a little man...
What a load of BS...no one in the military other than a few disgruntled REMFs would fall prey to this group of extremist hacks.
MoveOn and their uber-liberal groupies have absolutely no basis to make that accusation at Gen. Pertraeus. They surely aren't living in Iraq or serving there. They base these assertions from left-leaning editorials and meaningless opinion polls. Wake up America! Gen. Petraeus is the commander on the ground. His job isn't to create foreign policy or come up with reasons why we should or should not support it. Seems to me that MoveOn and the radical liberals who support them have committed an egregious error of misplaced anger.
What is truly "disgusting" is the foul stench of the commentary from all the above liberal mugwumps who have a big yellow stripe painted down their backs.
They all sit in their cozy houses sipping chai and lattes and comment about stuff they have absolutely no knowledge about. After reading their vitriol, it is clear that not a single one of these mugwumps have ever served in Iraq or Afghanistan. They have never seen a jihadist up close and personal and have no concept of the hatred that drives these terrorist pukes to want to kill any and all Americans; simply because we are Americans.
Their nearsightedness is appalling. Do you mugwumps honestly believe if we pull out of Iraq right now the terrorists will say, "Thank you very much we will not attack you anymore"? Or the naive belief that diplomacy or isolationism will actually work with non-state terrorist organizations. Get a clue! We are going to be fighting these SOBs across the world for the next 30+ years. You liberals need to start getting used to it.
My, my, the discussion does get heated and personal in this forum. For the record, I support moveon.org, but my reason for writing is to ask why the article starts with: "One day after the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution condemning MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” ad", when the resolution was hardly "unanimous"? In fact, much is being made of Senator Clinton's courage in voting "no" on the resolution. I've been wavering in my support for her, but her vote was the right one in this case.
What happened to the First Amendment (Freedom of Speech)? I guess that went out the window after the 2000 election was over? So, we let Neo-Nazi groups & the KKK have the right to speak, but not a Non-for-Profit Organization… What rights will we lose next during this term? I guess Americans haven’t had enough of the War in Iraq, Over-priced Health Care & Education, while ensuring that our kids will be paying off our deficit. Wait I forgot something. Having the Social Security system bankrupted with the next 5 years. Are you concerned yet America? If not, you should be! Best of luck to us all.
Once again both MoveOn.org and CNN are providing misinformation. Republicans did not block an effort to provide our troops more time off, as MoveOn wants you to believe. What they blocked was a flawed measure to REQUIRE the time (off) between deployments to be equal to or greater than the time served on the most recent deployment. The actual text of the measure is listed below.
“No unit or member of the Armed Forces specified in paragraph (3) may be deployed for Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom (including participation in the NATO International Security Assistance Force (Afghanistan)) unless the period between the deployment of the unit or member is equal to or longer than the period of such previous deployment. “
We all know that there is a TREMENDOUS need to allow out troops time off to be with their loved ones and obtain much needed rest. This measure, however, would have limited our ability to move in a moments notice to wherever needed and with the level of troops required. That is why it was defeated. Hey MoveOn… Before you can “keep speaking the truth…” you need to START telling the truth.
The spastic reaction of the screw ball right misses what the story said.
It did not say 12000 military personnel had contributed. It said 12000 people. The comment about the military was that they had been flooded with comments of support from them.
MoveOn.org is a group of cowards and traitors as is code pink. I was at a rally tuesday on the lawn of the senate where grieving parents of soldiers killed in Iraq were meeting, and I personally went to those from those groups and asked them to please not be so heartless and to attack a group of Parents who had lost children, but did they listen, no. The yelled and ranted and harrassed these parents of our fallen. If you call that American then I must have fallen asleep for 100 years. In the 50's you would have been beaten to a pulp for that. How cowardess. This is America, we are at war and we need to be one. They will be the first that bin laden puts to death. He hates cowards too.
In reading the comments on this thread and the one about Guiliani's staged phone call – I am horribly disheartened by the way these relatively immaterial things divide us as a country. We argue and scream at each other over the internet, commenting on inane (Guiliani) things or fundamental American rights (free speech) while our country disintegrates around us. I find that the source of much of this sensationalism is media organizations – sadly like CNN. I am going to start looking for media organizations not so politacally controlled for the news. We, as a country, need to get back to the basics.
United we stand, divided we fall.
HEY MG FROM SAN FRANCISCO
YOU HAVE ALOT OF NERVES SAYING THAT ANYONE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEIR CONDUCT.IT IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT TO SAY HOW THEY FEEL. AFTER ALL YOUR IGNORANT BEHIND RESPONDED, NOW DIDN'T YOU? YOU MIGHT BE FOR BUSH BUT ONLY AND JUST MAYBE 35% OF THE PEOPLE ARE FOR HIM. WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE? EVEN PEOPLE FROM DAY ONE THAT SUPPORTED HIM OR ARE REPUBLICANS AS WELL DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT HE'S DONE AND DOING. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THIS SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT'S EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL OPINION ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT GOT YOUR ATTENTION!!! SO EVERYONE THAT RESPONDED WHO ARE AGAINST US MUST BE WITH US IN SOME KIND OF WAY. YOUR TIME ISN'T TO PRECIOUS BECAUSE WE GOT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOU RESPONDED.
CNN has removed my comments about MoveOn.org. I have stated Mr. Bush was more then hapy to have the swiftboat adds for lies denagrae John kerry's service to his country ot that of Max Clealand who left limbs in Viet Nam. Now an indepenent group MoveOn has said something the right wants to spin, Cnn is happy to oblige,but no mention of the Swift Boat just to be fair and balanced. It seems CNN is becomming conservative. General Grange, anchors and new anchors. I hope there is mo censorship because I saw several removed.
Once again, CNN gets it wrong, although it's surprising since they got it right earlier this week.
It's said above that the vote was "unanimous", yet there was opposition to it, including Senator Clinton and Senator Obama among many others.
September 22, 2007 ended the last of our troops suffering and dying. From this day forward no more lives will be taken and no more families will be broken. Bullets will no longer penetrate God's poeple. We are all God's people no matter what race or religion.
President Bush and his supporters find fault with 'MoveOn.org's' ad yet they tolerate Iraqi president Jalal Talabani's insulting insistence that coalition forces release the recently detained Iranian accused of providing material assistance and training to those fighting against the Iraqi government and killing American troops. He didn't just ask for an explanation and clarification but rather indignantly demanded the Iranian's release and chastised American commanders. That is totally ridiculous and indicates the complete futility of having our troops there and the obnoxious irresponsibility of the Bush administration's continual self-serving justification for this conflict. Talabani is suppose to be Bush's ally, should be totally appreciative of all America is doing for his government and country and instead he is aggressively loyal to Iran. If that doesn't tell the true story, I don't know what does.
The Republican mudslinging Swift Boat ads in the last election set the standard. They can dish it out but cannot take it.
Stop whining and get the troops out of that stupid, stupid war. Lose the "my way or the highway" attitude and solve some of our real problems.
Democrats are "irresponsible" when they try to help poor children but der Furher has no problem helping his rich friends.
The best comment on here was written by Sandra Wiper from Minnesota.....no hysteria......no partisanship....simply effective and eloquent and true. Well done Sandra