September 21st, 2007
01:16 PM ET
13 years ago says criticism brings out military supporters

Watch President Bush condemn the ad Thursday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - One day after the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution condemning’s “General Betray Us” ad and President Bush offered his own harsh condemnation of the group, the liberal advocacy organization said it is being flooded with messages of support from members of the U.S. military and their families.

And as of midnight on Thursday, MoveOn also said it had raised $500,000 from 12,000 individuals to support a new ad its running criticizing Republicans who blocked an effort to give U.S. troops more time between deployments to the Middle East.

“These folks have made sacrifices many of can’t imagine,” the organization stated in a news release. “Their charge to us was clear: keep speaking the truth about how President Bush and the Republicans have betrayed our trust.”

MoveOn has been a hot topic of conversation ever since it published an ad in The New York Times questioning the credibility of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

- CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart

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  1. GoVets Madison WI

    To Nicholas Thor

    Thank you for your service to our country and know that many of us in the service are feeling the same way you are.

    September 21, 2007 04:39 pm at 4:39 pm |
  2. Jan from Wood Dale, IL

    It has been reported that at Thursday's press conference, Bush intentionally called on FOX news (who was standing in the back of the room) to ask the final question regarding the ad. It allowed Bush to give his "disgusting" opinion and call it a day.

    This administration uses the media as their puppets, and it seems to be working.

    September 21, 2007 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  3. Michael New London Connecticut

    I suggest all those defending the General look up his military record. How in the hell a career soldier who managed somehow to avoid being assigned to an active combat area in nearly 30 years of military service ends up running the Iraq War is beyond me! Just lucky I guess. I can tell you this...George Patton would kick his ass back to Biloxi for the lies he has told which endanger his men and betray this nation. There is a difference between opposing the war and opposing the manner in which it is being conducted!!!

    September 21, 2007 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  4. Will, Mass

    The US Government is a joke now.

    September 21, 2007 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
  5. Alex, Sunrise, FL

    Haven't we heard enough about this ad? Aren't there real issues to address?
    Isn't it time to MoveOn?

    September 21, 2007 04:44 pm at 4:44 pm |
  6. Elaine Yanow, Williamstown, MA

    What about the 'Swift Boat' ads against John Kerry. Why doesn't the news media use that as a comparison to the ad and how the Republicans tried to distance themselves from that. To me, it's the same thing. I think it was a set-up, a soft-ball question for Bush at the news conference. Why do you, the media even report what is so obviously a manipulation of the media. At least paid for their ad (which I believe was in bad taste), but Bush got his rhetoric for free.

    September 21, 2007 04:47 pm at 4:47 pm |
  7. Bill, Brockway, PA

    Please, Clinton didn't use the media as his lapdog when he was president? Fox news- fair and balanced. It only seems conservative because Conservatives are right

    September 21, 2007 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  8. REG; Chandler, AZ

    As this ridiculous controversy clearly demonstrates American politics is literally in the toilet … and those who won’t admit it are the extremely wealthy who are benefiting, the marginally wealthy who think they are benefiting and those who simply try to be positive and ignore it. Over the last six plus years there has been an exhibition of complete control over one political party to facilitate the pursuit of a private agenda for the benefit of Special Interests and a select few, who then in return provide substantial financial and strong influential support. These efforts have been constant and include covert as well as overt activities while the average American, including the marginally wealthy, has been given only apathy, the costs, the problems and an abundance of subterfuge. The absolute gross dishonesty, the complete self-indulgence, the offensive and obnoxious arrogance and boldness and the unconscionable performance represent a sociopathic mentality that causes far more problems than just a political inequity – one example being the Iraq War. We can’t even expect to hold our corporate leaders to a high level of integrity if the example our politicians set is one of self-serving irresponsibility. All of this happens while the other political party just sits on their hands as if intimidated and afraid. The voters are the only hope to turn things around and to do so they must put their own individual biases and self-interests aside, to avoid once again being manipulated and deceived, and to instead demand honest, responsible and conscientious political performers. It is up to the voters to first honestly admit the truth so they can then expect better from the politicians.

    September 21, 2007 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  9. Jackie Taylor, San Jose, CA

    Oh I's only okay when the Republicans attack someone's honor. How quickly the news media and the Republicans forget what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth did to John Kerry. Isn't this just another instance of "the pot calling the kettle black?"

    September 21, 2007 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  10. Dan (Columbia, MD)

    Kris from Toronto, Canada, please let us know when you're going to crack jokes like that.

    You made soda shoot out of my nose.

    September 21, 2007 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  11. Save America from Satan, Austin, Texas

    I support all the way instead of some wannabe Communist administration and its lying General! Trying to silence someone or a group for speaking out is reminiscent of the old Russia and Germany! They probably worship Hitler too but will never tell us that either!

    September 21, 2007 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  12. c-ray, webster groves, missouri

    oh, so now is the problem.

    unlike the bush administration, moveon readily displays where their information comes from. perhaps some of you moveon-bashers should visit the site.

    meanwhile, the fox networks and rush limbaughs of the world spread their right wing interpretation of current events with nary a fact checker.

    wake up, red state people. or maybe you're all too preoccupied enjoying the creature comforts of your high-performance, low-mileage sport utility vehicles.

    as the son of a two-war veteran, i am appalled how this administration continues to stand for nothing but fearmongering, lies and death - the death of 4000 american soldiers, tens of thousands of iraqi civilians and, above all, the death of the truth.

    this administration has spent enough money to give every man, woman and child on earth $120. perhaps we can buy friends around the world faster than we can kill these "trumped up" enemies. no, mr. president, what good would that do?

    god bless our troops. it is a shame that their real enemy is their commander-in-chief.

    September 21, 2007 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  13. Dave, Dallas Texas USA

    If I'm not mistaken, MoveOn is French for idiot.

    September 21, 2007 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  14. nina Chattanooga TN

    I believe instead of talking about this stupid ad that CNN should be talking about the good we have done in Iraq so far and the real issues of this country. As a service memner I am disgusted that the media never talks about the progress being made but certainly keeps up with all the stupidity in the country. Lets talk about the real issues, securing our borders so the police officers like the one in AR are not shot down by illegals when they are doing their jobs. Lets talk about healthcare for legal citizens of this country and stop providing welfare for the illegals. Global warming needs to be adressed. These are the issues that need to be addressed not some stupid ad.

    September 21, 2007 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  15. Moe, NY

    MoveOn...keep the truth coming...we certainly will not get the truth from our elected (?) president and his cronies, nor unfortunately from other politicans afraid to stand up for freedom of speech. I must admit I admire Hillary Clinton for standing up for freedom of speech, whether or not she agreed with your ad.

    September 21, 2007 06:06 pm at 6:06 pm |
  16. JR, Colorado Springs, Colorado

    When will IGNORANT people stop equating disent for LEADERS who put our troops into harms way to the LACK of support for those troops? INTELLIGENCE dictates otherwise.

    Also, you fiscal CONSERVATIVES, how do you FEEL about REPUBLICANS spending 500 BILLION DOLLARS on a WAR that should NEVER have been FOUGHT?!?

    IGNORE the truth, STIFLE free speech, ATTACK disenters, CHERRY PICK the facts, look the other way...did I MISS anything?

    September 21, 2007 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  17. BDK,Boone,NC

    "12,000 emails from soldiers? This begs the question: 'Why do America's troops hate our troops?'"

    Just because you do not support the current administration does not mean that you "hate the troops".

    This is typical rightwing rhetoric.

    To put it in layman's can love a football team and dislike the coach. Not liking the coach(es) does not mean that you hate the team.

    The current administration has always been good at hiding behind words such as "Under God", Patriotic, and Good American so that if you do not agree with their policy it makes you look like that you an Atheist, Unpatriotic, and a Bad American.

    The troops' duty is to do what the "commander in chief" and his General's ask them to do without question.
    They have done that to their best ability. We have the greatest Armed Service's in the World thanks to the brave men and women who serve in them.

    It is our job as Good Americans, Patriotic Americans to make sure that our Commander's In Chief's are using our troop's for missions that are in our nation's best interest and I think that a lot of American's are starting to see that we may have been led astray.
    Remember these 2 "little things"?
    Osama Bin Laden and Afganistan?
    was it not them who really started this war with their attack on 9/11?

    September 21, 2007 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  18. J.Murphy

    Until bush stops ordering the General, and the Republican leadership to stay the course. The Majority of the people will continue to support, and their adds. They speak for the People of the U.S.A.!! NOT bush.

    September 21, 2007 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  19. Anna, Woodbridge, VA

    The hypocracy of this administration is staggering. They are totally outraged about the ad, but will only shout about it from behind General Petraeus. That's because not a one of those cowards served in active duty military and they need him for credibility. (For you Bushies – serving only 4 years of a 6 year committment and violating the Hatch Act to boot DOES NOT constitute military service.)
    My husband, father, sister, brother-in-law and many others of my friends and family have ties to the military and it sickens and infuriates me to hear bush's line about supporting the troops, even as he ignores the stateside plight of the wounded he sent into war.
    Lest you still wonder – it was the president's good friend, Hunt, and his deal with the Kurds for their oil, that has made the possibility of a unified and working Iraq government nearly impossible. We are not in Iraq for democracy (bush wouldn't know what that was if it bit him), but for oil.

    September 21, 2007 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  20. Bill Crawford, Salt Lake City, UT

    Gen Petraeus is a career minded army brass. He wrote several manuals on military srategy. On one of his manuals, he stresses that to get rid of insurgency the military has to provide 1 GI for 40 people. With his calculation, we need 675,000 soldiers to curb the violence and bring peace. That is the figure Gen Abizaid and Gen Franks (???) had recommended. And what happens? Both of these generals were forced to retirement. Gen Petreus knows that it is impossible to have that many soldiers. That is why he was recommending Bush's policy and getting high acclamation from Bush to clear his way for promotion.

    September 21, 2007 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  21. Sarah, Kansas City, MO

    Enough already on this phoney issue! We live in a free country in which people can say what they wish.

    The republicans are trying to make political hay out of this one because they have little to make hay with nowadays. The democrats on the otherhand should be reminding people that we live in a free country and we entitled to say what is on our minds. is right about the military. There is growing disgust with this war among the military. The toll that it has taken upon military families has been terrible. And to think that some of these people will be going back again and again (5,6, maybe 7 times in the future); their disgust will grow even more.

    I do not blame the military, they are doing their job. General Petraeus's report to congress was something the administration was supposed to do. But since the administration has no more cred that job fell to the General. I never expected him to tell congress that the 'surge' was a failure; he would have been without a job

    September 21, 2007 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  22. Richard, Ewing, NJ

    People who compare MoveOn ads with SwiftBoat ads are ridiculous. First, MoveOn attacked Petraus before he gave his speech. MoveOn has no first hand experience or credibility in military or intelligence. The 250 SwiftBoat people are really military veterans and some POWs who served in Vietnam. 11 of them actually served with John Kerry. They were there. The biggest problem the SwiftBoat people have with Kerry is that Kerry has once testified that US soliders most likely had raped and murdered Vietnamese civilians, including babies. You people need to understand this is a very emotional charge.

    September 21, 2007 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  23. Conser-Vatori Ignari, Colorado

    Definition of a conservative Republican:

    self-serving, religious zealot (or you vote like one), ignorant (because you ignore common sense and the facts), xenophobic, homophobic, Doesn't like anyone who didn't grow up on the ashes of the American Indians, weren't those people a bunch of European IMMIGRANTS?

    Before you stereotype me, I'm a straight, white 2nd generation decendant of European immigrants with a couple of kids. And I still think you're a bunch of loosers that are ruining it for the rest of us.

    September 21, 2007 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  24. Ron Nebraska

    Simply another chance for the party of division and manipulation of the ignorant to distract from what is important and vital to our future in order to score political points. Seriously I don't know how an average, logical member of the Republican party (and I do assume there are some) can even stand to be associated with these people in government.

    September 21, 2007 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  25. Earl, Over there

    for the joker who said look up the generals military record, he should get his facts straight, this is his third tour to iraq, not his first, he wrote the book on how to counter terrorism. As far as 30 years of military service if I recal correctly in the the last 30 years there have not been any major fights until after 9/11, we have only had skirmishes, and we don't send in the entire force for something that can be taken of with a division. So go check his BIO I am sure that you will find plenty out about this man.
    For those who support us here thank you, for those of you who say you support us but won't back us, move to Russia, see how you like it there.

    September 21, 2007 06:47 pm at 6:47 pm |
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